Orange in French

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Orange in French

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<Orange> is, notoriously, a word with no rhymes in English. But what about its source languages? I assume there are rhymes for <Orange> in French? What about Spanish naranja?
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For French : «Grange»

It's also a rich rhyme, as the last three phonemes repeat.
Ez amnar o amnar e cauč.
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The Malayalam cognate of the original Dravidian etymon is [ˈn̪aːɾɛŋʲa]. All kinds of edible plant product names in Malayalam rhyme with that because /kaː/ means a seed or fruit.

However, [ˈn̪aːɾɛŋʲa] does not mean 'orange' at all but rather 'lime'.
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Tom Lehrer managed to rhyme "orange." You need the Boston accent, though, and some maybe weird syllabification.

"Eating an orange
while making love
leads to bizarre enj-
oyment thereof."
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Yiuel Raumbesrairc wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:37 pm For French : «Grange»

It's also a rich rhyme, as the last three phonemes repeat.
Actually, the French for "orange" is, well, "orange."

In Indonesia, we call it "jeruk manis," and due to the nature of the language, rhythming words are very common. Example of rhythming word:

Jeruk : Garuk, Tunduk, Untuk, Induk, Kuk, Bekuk, etc
Manis : Khalis, Amis, Baris, Laris, Tumis, Haris, Lilis, Rilis, Bisnis, Paris, etc.
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Akangka wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:04 am
Yiuel Raumbesrairc wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:37 pm For French : «Grange»

It's also a rich rhyme, as the last three phonemes repeat.
Actually, the French for "orange" is, well, "orange."
French being my first mother tongue... I know that. But the OP specifically asked for rhymes with the word, not its meaning.
Ez amnar o amnar e cauč.
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Yiuel Raumbesrairc wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:58 am
Akangka wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:04 am
Yiuel Raumbesrairc wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:37 pm For French : «Grange»

It's also a rich rhyme, as the last three phonemes repeat.
Actually, the French for "orange" is, well, "orange."
French being my first mother tongue... I know that. But the OP specifically asked for rhymes with the word, not its meaning.
Sorry. I misread it.
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I can't think of a perfect rhyme for German Orange /oˈrɔŋʒə/. Closest I can get is Melange, an Austrian coffee drink.

Irish oráiste is easier. /aːs′t′e/ is the usual adaptation of the ending -age in Old and Middle French borrowings so you have coráiste (< courage), foráiste (< forage), etc.
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For naranja, there's franja 'fringe', granja 'farm', zanja 'ditch', and tanja 'taṇhā'.
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Yo estoy a la franja
Buscando en la zanja
De mi viejita granja
Porqué tengo la tanja
Para una gran dulce naranja.
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I guess poor Guybrush will be lost at sea forever in some of the translated versions of The Curse of Monkey Island. :P
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Yiuel Raumbesrairc wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:37 pm For French : «Grange»

It's also a rich rhyme, as the last three phonemes repeat.
Yeah. I can think of 7-8 words easily enough.
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Linguoboy wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:24 am I can't think of a perfect rhyme for German Orange /oˈrɔŋʒə/. Closest I can get is Melange, an Austrian coffee drink.
You can always use Apfelsine instead, which has lots of rhyme words.
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akam chinjir wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:27 am Tom Lehrer managed to rhyme "orange." You need the Boston accent, though, and some maybe weird syllabification.

"Eating an orange
while making love
leads to bizarre enj-
oyment thereof."
Ah yes, rhyming by linebreaks, I've seen that before

For the word silver,
finding a rhyme
requires will, ver-
bosity and time
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I call this kind of rhyme a "Hans Sachs rhyme". I don't know whether Hans Sachs actually did this, but in Wagner's opera Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg he has the lines: Hans Sachs ein Schuh-/macher und Poet dazu.
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