Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

[bbbosborne]

/ⁿzˤᴺɢiᴺɢ/ [nˤzˤɢiᴺq] z'xix

/p pˤ t tˤ tʃ tʃˤ k q ʔ/ p p' t t' c c' k q ʔ
/ᵐb ᵐbˤ ⁿd ⁿdˤ ⁿdʒ ⁿdʒˤ ᵑg ᴺɢ/ b b' d d' j j' g x
/f fˤ s sˤ ʃ x h/ f f' s s' š h h'
/ⁿz ⁿzˤ ᵑɣ ᴺʁ/ z z' ɣ y
/m mˤ n nˤ/ m m' n n'
/r rˤ l lˤ/ r r' l l'

geminated consonants are doubled

/i u e o ɛ ɔ æ ɑ/ i u e o ê ô æ a
/aɪ aʊ aɔ aɛ æe eʊ eɪ ʊo ɪɛ/ ai au aô aê æe eu ei uo iê

/ⁿdˤaxtɛt il ᵑgiᵑgⁿd ɛⁿz spʊoʃʃæem ɛⁿz ᴺɢikt sˤtˤalˤsˤhaɪs ⁿdɔᵑg strulˤlˤɑ ᵐbˤrˤɑlnɛ qæns ʔeʊns ᴺʁiⁿdːenˤfˤ rufˤsˤ/
d'ahtêt il gigd êz spuoššæem êz xikt s't'al's'h'ais dôg strul'l'a b'r'alnê qæns ʔeuns yidden'f' ruf's'

[Nortaneous]

/ⁿzˤᴺɢiᴺɢ/ [nˤzˤɢiᴺq]

/p pˤ t tˤ tʃ tʃˤ k q ʔ/ <p p t t c c k k q>
/ᵐb ᵐbˤ ⁿd ⁿdˤ ⁿdʒ ⁿdʒˤ ᵑg ᴺɢ/ <b b d d j j g g>
/f fˤ s sˤ ʃ x h/ <f f s s y h h>
/ⁿz ⁿzˤ ᵑɣ ᴺʁ/ <z z ğ ğ>
/m mˤ n nˤ/ <m m n n>
/r rˤ l lˤ/ <r r l l>

/i u e o ɛ ɔ æ ɑ/ <i u ẹ ọ e o ạ a>
/aɪ aʊ aɔ aɛ æe eʊ eɪ ʊo ɪɛ/ <ai au ao ae ạe eu ei uo ie>

ˤa aˤ# ˤaˤ# <à á â>

/ⁿdˤaxtɛt il ᵑgiᵑgⁿd ɛⁿz spʊoʃʃæem ɛⁿz ᴺɢikt sˤtˤalˤsˤhaɪs ⁿdɔᵑg strulˤlˤɑ ᵐbˤrˤɑlnɛ qæns ʔeʊns ᴺʁiⁿdːenˤfˤ rufˤsˤ/
Dàhtet il gigd ez spuoyyạem ez gìkt stàlshàis dog strullà bràlne kạ̀ns qeuns ğìddẹ́nf rúfs.

[Travis B.]

/ⁿzˤᴺɢiᴺɢ/ [nˤzˤɢiᴺq]

/p pˤ t tˤ tʃ tʃˤ k q ʔ/ <p p t t c c k k q>
/ᵐb ᵐbˤ ⁿd ⁿdˤ ⁿdʒ ⁿdʒˤ ᵑg ᴺɢ/ <b b d d j j g g>
/f fˤ s sˤ ʃ x h/ <f f s s y h h>
/ⁿz ⁿzˤ ᵑɣ ᴺʁ/ <z z ğ ğ>
/m mˤ n nˤ/ <m m n n>
/r rˤ l lˤ/ <r r l l>

/i u e o ɛ ɔ æ ɑ/ <i u ẹ ọ e o ạ a>
/aɪ aʊ aɔ aɛ æe eʊ eɪ ʊo ɪɛ/ <ai au ao ae ạe eu ei uo ie>

ˤa aˤ# ˤaˤ# <à á â>

/ⁿdˤaxtɛt il ᵑgiᵑgⁿd ɛⁿz spʊoʃʃæem ɛⁿz ᴺɢikt sˤtˤalˤsˤhaɪs ⁿdɔᵑg strulˤlˤɑ ᵐbˤrˤɑlnɛ qæns ʔeʊns ᴺʁiⁿdːenˤfˤ rufˤsˤ/
Dàhtet il gigd ez spuoyyạem ez gìkt stàlshàis dog strullà bràlne kạ̀ns qeuns ğìddẹ́nf rúfs.

That is a quite nice-looking orthography for a language whose phonology seems difficult to encode into an orthography from first glance.

[Nortaneous]

Búlvee ganá platjaí augínama kultuurá, kurí Pietuú Amä́rikojä búvoo sukultuúrinta priéš kää́lätaa túukstantjuu mää́tuu. Žínoma labaí daúg veísljuu. Laukínees arbá saváiminees búlvees áuga Pietuú Amä́rikoos Anduu kalnuosä́, kuŕ joós búvoo svarbjáusjas maísto prodúktas.

Bulve gana plaťaj åginama kultúra, kuri Pětú Amärikojä buvo sukultúrinta prěš kä́latá túkstanťú metú. Žinoma labaj dåg vejsľú. Låkines arba savajmines bulves åga Pětu Amärikos Andú kalnůsä, kur jos buvo svarbjauśas majsto produktas.

Bulvee gana platiaï aüginama kultuura, kuri Pietuu Amairikoiai buvo sukultuurinta prieš kailaitaa tuukstantiuu maiituu. Žinooma labaï daüg veïsliuu. Laükinees arba savaïminees bulvees aüga Pietuu Amairikos Anduu kalnausai, kur joos buvo svarbiaüsias maïstoo prooduktas.

[Nortaneous]

Lebanese

/b t d k ʔ/
/f s z ʃ ʒ x ɣ ħ ʕ h/
/m n/
/l r j w/
/a e o i u a: e: o: i: u:/
(/p g v/)

/eːm w reʒeʕ ʕand bajjo || ʃeːfo bajjo ʒeːje men bʕid | w ʃefeʔ ʕale w raħ jeɣemro w jbuso || fa allo ebno | ja bajje | xtit ʕal sama w ʕalek | w mma bestħeʔʔ samme ʕaːle ebnak || aːl el bajj la xeddeːmo | bserʕa || ʒibo afxam tjeːb w labsu | w ħotto xeːtem ʕa esbaʕo w labsu bot || w ʒibo el ʕeʒel w dbaʕu ta neːkol w nonbosit | leʔanno ebne ken majjet w ʕeːʃ | w ken daːjeʕ w lʔine/

[Nortaneous]

/b t d k ʔ/ <b t d k ç>
/f s z ʃ ʒ x ɣ ħ ʕ h/ <f s z c j q g x ÿ h>
/m n/ <m n>
/l r j w/ <l r y w>
/a e o i u a: e: o: i: u:/ <a e o i u aa...>
(/p g v/)

/eːm w reʒeʕ ʕand bajjo || ʃeːfo bajjo ʒeːje men bʕid | w ʃefeʔ ʕale w raħ jeɣemro w jbuso || fa allo ebno | ja bajje | xtit ʕal sama w ʕalek | w mma bestħeʔʔ samme ʕaːle ebnak || aːl el bajj la xeddeːmo | bserʕa || ʒibo afxam tjeːb w labsu | w ħotto xeːtem ʕa esbaʕo w labsu bot || w ʒibo el ʕeʒel w dbaʕu ta neːkol w nonbosit | leʔanno ebne ken majjet w ʕeːʃ | w ken daːjeʕ w lʔine/

Eem w rejeÿ ÿand bayyo. Ceefo bayyo jeeye men bÿid, w cefeç ÿale w rax yegemro w ybuso. Fa allo ebno, ya bayye, qtit ÿal sama w ÿalek, w mma bestxeçç samme ÿaale ebnak. Aal el bayy la qeddeemo, bserÿa. Jibo afqam tyeeb w labsu, w xotto qeetem ÿa esbaÿo w labsu bot. W jibo el ÿejel w dbaÿu ta neekol w nonbosit, leçanno ebne ken mayyet w ÿeec, w ken daayeÿ w lçine.

/b t d k ʔ/ <b t d k q>
/f s z ʃ ʒ x ɣ ħ ʕ h/ <f s z ch j x g xh c h>
/m n/ <m n>
/l r j w/ <l r y w>
/a e o i u a: e: o: i: u:/ <a e o i u aa...>

Eem w rejec cand bayyo. Cheefo bayyo jeeye men bcid, w chefeq cale w raxh yegemro w ybuso. Fa allo ebno, ya bayye, xtit cal sama w calek, w mma bestxheqq samme caale ebnak. Aal el bayy la xeddeemo, bserca. Jibo afxam tyeeb w labsu, w xhotto xeetem ca esbaco w labsu bot. W jibo el cejel w dbacu ta neekol w nonbosit, leqanno ebne ken mayyet w ceech. W ken daayec w lqine.

/b t d k ʔ/ <b t d k q>
/f s z ʃ ʒ x ɣ ħ ʕ h/ <f s z š ž ḫ g ḥ ġ h>
/m n/ <m n>
/l r j w/ <l r y v>
/a e o i u a: e: o: i: u:/ <a e o i u ā...>
Ēm v režeġ ġand bayyo. Šēfo bayyo žēye men bġid, v šefeq ġale v raḥ yegemro v ybuso. Fa allo ebno, ya bayye, ḫtit ġal sama v ġalek, v mma bestḥeqq samme ġāle ebnak. Āl el bayy la ḫeddēmo, bserġa. Žibo afḫam tyēb v labsu, v ḥotto ḥētem ġa esbaġo v labsu bot. V žibo el ġežel v dbaġu ta nēkol v nonbosit, leqanno ebne ken mayyet v ġēš. V ken dāyeġ v lqine.

[Karch]

/b t d k ʔ/ <b t d k '>
/f s z ʃ ʒ x ɣ ħ ʕ h/ <f s z sh g x q kh c h>
/m n/ <m n>
/l r j w/ <l r y w>
/a e o i u a: e: o: i: u:/ <a e i o u aa ee ii oo uu>
(/p g v/) <p ḳ v>

/eːm w reʒeʕ ʕand bajjo || ʃeːfo bajjo ʒeːje men bʕid | w ʃefeʔ ʕale w raħ jeɣemro w jbuso || fa allo ebno | ja bajje | xtit ʕal sama w ʕalek | w mma bestħeʔʔ samme ʕaːle ebnak || aːl el bajj la xeddeːmo | bserʕa || ʒibo afxam tjeːb w labsu | w ħotto xeːtem ʕa esbaʕo w labsu bot || w ʒibo el ʕeʒel w dbaʕu ta neːkol w nonbosit | leʔanno ebne ken majjet w ʕeːʃ | w ken daːjeʕ w lʔine/

Eem w regec cand bayyo. Sheefo bayyo geeye men bcid, w shefe' cale w rakh yeqemro w ybuso. Fa allo ebno, ya bayye, xtit cal sama w calek, w mma bestkhe'' samme caale ebnak. Aal el bayy la xeddeemo, bserca, gibo afxam tyeeb w labsu, w khotto xeetem ca esbaco w labsu bot. W gibo el cegel w dbacu ta neekol w nonbosit, le'anno ebne ken mayyet w ceesh, w ken daayec w l'ine.

[Bessunire]

/b t d k ʔ/ <b t d k q>
/f s z ʃ ʒ x ɣ ħ ʕ h/ <f s z ś ź c g ć ǵ h>
/m n/ <m n>
/l r j w/ <l r j w> (/jj/ is written <ij>)
/a e o i u a: e: o: i: u:/ <a e o i u á é ó í ú>
(/p g v/) <p gh v>

/eːm w reʒeʕ ʕand bajjo || ʃeːfo bajjo ʒeːje men bʕid | w ʃefeʔ ʕale w raħ jeɣemro w jbuso || fa allo ebno | ja bajje | xtit ʕal sama w ʕalek | w mma bestħeʔʔ samme ʕaːle ebnak || aːl el bajj la xeddeːmo | bserʕa || ʒibo afxam tjeːb w labsu | w ħotto xeːtem ʕa esbaʕo w labsu bot || w ʒibo el ʕeʒel w dbaʕu ta neːkol w nonbosit | leʔanno ebne ken majjet w ʕeːʃ | w ken daːjeʕ w lʔine/

Ém w reźeǵ ǵand baijo. Śéfo baijo źéje men bǵid, w śefeq ǵale w rać jegemro w jbuso. Fa allo ebno, ja baijo, ctit ǵal sama w ǵalek, w mma bestćeqq samme ǵále ebnak. Ál el baij la ceddémo, bserǵa. Źibo afcam tjéb w labsu, w ćotto cétem ǵa esbaǵo w labsu bot. W źibo el ǵeźel w dbaǵu ta nékol w nonbosit, leqanno ebne ken maijet w ǵéś, w ken dájeǵ w lqine.

[Nortaneous]

/p b t c ʔ/
/f s h/
/m n/
/l~r j~dʒ w/
(/pˡ bˡ mˡ fˡ~hˡ ʔˡ/, contrasting with sequences /pl.../ [pr...])
/a ɒ e ʌ o i u ai/ + unstressed schwa
Tone system: a word can have a downstep; if it has a downstep, it can also have an upstep. These can be on the same syllable. Phonetically, there are two tones, low and high.

/ʔəhəmai̯ wəjà fˡi tənʔótə̀ʔo təʔa pˡɔ tənʌ mʔa ʔə jcə̀nte ʔˡe jè/

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Current orthography:
<p b t c 0>
<f s h>
<m n>
<l~r y v>
<a aw e ar~er o i u ai> + <e>, or <a> around glottal stop, <i> around /j/, <u> around /w/; #?C <eC>
Tone is unmarked.

Ahemai via fli tenaotao taa plaw tener ma ar icente ele ye.

[Xwtek]

/p b t c ʔ/
/f s h/
/m n/
/l~r j~dʒ w/
(/pˡ bˡ mˡ fˡ~hˡ ʔˡ/, contrasting with sequences /pl.../ [pr...])
/a ɒ e ʌ o i u ai/ + unstressed schwa
Tone system: a word can have a downstep; if it has a downstep, it can also have an upstep. These can be on the same syllable. Phonetically, there are two tones, low and high.

/ʔəhəmai̯ wəjà fˡi tənʔótə̀ʔo təʔa pˡɔ tənʌ mʔa ʔə jcə̀nte ʔˡe jè/

I am still confused about the tone system. But this is the best guess

/p b t c ʔ/ <p b t k '>
/f s h/ <f s h>
/m n/ <m n>
/l~r j~dʒ w/ <r j w>
/pˡ bˡ mˡ fˡ~hˡ ʔˡ/ <pl bl ml fl 'l>
/a ɒ e ʌ o i u ai ə/ <a au ei eu o i u ai e>

/ꜜa ꜛa ꜜꜛa/ <à á ǎ> (Only letter <a> and <e> in a digraph receives accent)

/ʔəhəmai̯ wəjà fˡi tənʔótə̀ʔo təʔa pˡɔ tənʌ mʔa ʔə jcə̀nte ʔˡe jè/

<'ehemai weja fli ten'ótè'o te'a plau teneu m'a 'e jkèntei 'lei jèi>

About unstressed syllable, outside of ə, can other vowel exists in unstressed syllable? If it can, what other kind of vowel it can?
(We can change the vowel of /ə/ and potentally remove need for ugly <ei> digraph)
Can word start with vowel?
(If not so, we can omit <'> word initally)
Can vowel hiatus occurs?
(If not so, we can omit <'> between vowel except between <a> or <e> and <i> or <u>
How does upstep and downstep works? (You only give surface realization. But I need also the underlying one.) Also, you say there is two surface tone, but why there is three in your example?

If neither word inital vowel nor vowel hiatus is allowed, after removal of <'> it becomes:
<ehemai weja fli ten'ótèo tea plau teneu m'a e jkèntei 'lei jèi>

[Nortaneous]

About unstressed syllable, outside of ə, can other vowel exists in unstressed syllable? If it can, what other kind of vowel it can?

No.

Can word start with vowel?

No.

Can vowel hiatus occurs?

No.

How does upstep and downstep works? (You only give surface realization. But I need also the underlying one.)

Marked with acute and grave. It's probably better to assume all words that are completely unmarked for tone have upstep on the first syllable. Assign low tone until the upstep, then high tone until the downstep, then low tone again. I don't know how word-level tone systems work yet, so this will probably change later.
[ʔə́hə́mái̯ wə́jà fˡí tə̀nʔótə̀ʔò tə́ʔá pˡɔ́ tə́nʌ́ mʔá ʔə́ jcə̀ntè ʔˡé jè]

[Xwtek]

Additional question I forgot:

1. Where is the stress placed? Does your language drops schwa in some environment?
2. What happened if upstep and downstep is placed on the same syllable?

[Nortaneous]

Final stress, no synchronic schwa-dropping.
Falling tone.

[Xwtek]

/p b t c ʔ/ <p b t k '> (' is only written if it is adjacent to a consonant)
/f s h/ <f s h>
/m n/ <m n>
/l~r j~dʒ w/ <r j w>
/pˡ bˡ mˡ fˡ~hˡ ʔˡ/ <pl bl ml fl 'l>
/a ɒ e ʌ o i u ai ə/ <a au ei eu o i u ai e>

/ꜜa ꜛa ꜛꜜa/ <à á ǎ> (Only letter <a> and <e> in a digraph receives accent)
(If first syllable receives an upstep, it is unmarked. If it also receives grave accent, it receives grave accent instead of caron.)
/aʔi aʔu əʔi əʔu/ <aï aü eï eü> (If the second syllable receives neither upstep or downstep)

/ʔəhəmai̯ wəjà fˡi tənʔótə̀ʔo təʔa pˡɔ tənʌ mʔa ʔə jcə̀nte ʔˡe jè/

<ehemai wejà fli ten'ótèo tea plau teneu m'a e jkèntei 'lei jèi>

[Xwtek]

/b t d k ʔ/ <b t d k '>
/f s z ʃ ʒ x ɣ ħ ʕ h/ <f s z c cz x j qh q h>
/m n/ <m n>
/l r j w/ <l r y w>
/a e o i u a: e: o: i: u:/ <a e o i u aa ee oo ii uu>
(/p g v/) <p g v>

Eem w reczeq qand bayyo. Ceefo bayyo czeeye men bqid, w cefe' qale w raqh yejemro w ybuso. Fa allo ebno, ya bayye, xtit qal sama w qalek, w mma bestqhe'' samme qaale ebnak. Aal el bayy la xeddeemo, bserqa. Czibo afxam tyeeb w labsu, w qhotto xeetem qa esbaqo w labsu bot. W czibo el qeczel w dbaqu ta neekol w nonbosit, le'anno ebne ken mayyet w qeec, w ken daayeq w l'ine.

[Birdlang]

/b t d k ʔ/ b t d k c
/f s z ʃ ʒ x ɣ ħ ʕ h/ f s z š ž x ł q y h
/m n/ m n
/l r j w/ l r j w
/a e o i u a: e: o: i: u:/ a e o i u ā ē ō ī ū
(/p g v/) p g v

/eːm w reʒeʕ ʕand bajjo || ʃeːfo bajjo ʒeːje men bʕid | w ʃefeʔ ʕale w raħ jeɣemro w jbuso || fa allo ebno | ja bajje | xtit ʕal sama w ʕalek | w mma bestħeʔʔ samme ʕaːle ebnak || aːl el bajj la xeddeːmo | bserʕa || ʒibo afxam tjeːb w labsu | w ħotto xeːtem ʕa esbaʕo w labsu bot || w ʒibo el ʕeʒel w dbaʕu ta neːkol w nonbosit | leʔanno ebne ken majjet w ʕeːʃ | w ken daːjeʕ w lʔine/
Ēm w režey yand bajjo. Šēfo bajjo žēje men byid. W šefec yale w raq jełemro w jbuso. Fa allo ebno. Ja bajje. Xtit yal sama w yalek. W mma bestqecc samme yāle ebnak. Āl el bajj la xeddēmo. Bserya. Žibo afxam tjēb w labsu. W qotto xētem ya esbayo w labsu bot. W žibo el yežel w dbayu ta nēkol w nonbosit. Lecanno ebne ken majjet w yēš. W ken dājey w lcine.

Lithuanian
/m mʲ n nʲ/
/p pʲ t tʲ kʲ k/
/b bʲ d dʲ ɡʲ ɡ/
/t͡s t͡sʲ t͡ʃ t͡ɕ/
/d͡z d͡zʲ d͡ʒ d͡ʑ/
/(f) (fʲ) s sʲ ʃ ɕ (xʲ) (x)/
/v vʲ z zʲ ʒ ʑ j (ɣʲ) (ɣ)/
/ɫ lʲ/
/r rʲ/

/iː ɪ ʊ uː eː ɛ (e) (ɔ) oː æː ɐ aː/
/iu ai ɛi uo iə iɛ/
/sʲvʲɛi.kʲisʲ | kaipʲ sʲe.ka.sʲi | | a.ʨuː gʲe.rai | o jums || /
/lʲiə.tu.vʲiuː kaɫ.ba/
/pauk.ɕtʲisʲ/
/pol.ka/

Edit
Nort’s conlang
/p b t c ʔ/ p b t k d
/f s h/ f s h
/m n/ m n
/l~r j~dʒ w/ l j w
(/pˡ bˡ mˡ fˡ~hˡ ʔˡ/, contrasting with sequences /pl.../ [pr...]) pl bl ml fl dl. Consonant plus l written as p’l b’l m’l f’l d’l
/a ɒ e ʌ o i u ai/ + unstressed schwa a å é o ó i u ai + e
Tones:
Low and high: ax ag
Mid: unmarked
/ʔəhəmai̯ wəjà fˡi tənʔótə̀ʔo təʔa pˡɔ tənʌ mʔa ʔə jcə̀nte ʔˡe jè/
Dehemai weyag fli tendógtexdo teas pló teno mda de jkexnté jéx.

I’d like to see how people romanize my conlang I’m working on. It’s spoken in an alternate China
/m n ɲ ŋ/
/p ʰp b t ʰt d c ʰc ɟ k ʰk g ʔ/
/f v s z ʂ ʐ ʃ ʒ ɕ ʑ x ɣ h ɦ/
/l j w/

/i y ɨ u e ɤ o æ a/

[Nortaneous]

/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n ny ng>
/p ʰp b t ʰt d c ʰc ɟ k ʰk g ʔ/ <b p bb d t dd j q jj g k gg v>
/f v s z ʂ ʐ ʃ ʒ ɕ ʑ x ɣ h ɦ/ <f v s ss sh r xh yh x xx h hh>
/l j w/ <l y w>

/i y ɨ u e ɤ o æ a/ <i iu ee u ei e o ae a>

[akam chinjir]

/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n nj ng>
/p ʰp b t ʰt d c ʰc ɟ k ʰk g ʔ/ <p hp b t ht d c hc gj k hk g ʔ>
/f v s z ʂ ʐ ʃ ʒ ɕ ʑ x ɣ h ɦ/ <f v s z r rz sh zh sj zj x xz h hz>
/l j w/ <l j w>

/i y ɨ u e ɤ o æ a/ <i ü ï u e ë o ä a>

hC is preaspirated C. Cj is a palatal. Cz is a voiced fricative. The umlaut indicates change in backness without a change in rounding. I assumed fairly simple syllable structure, maybe like Mandarin. If vowel-initial syllables are possible, they can be flagged with an initial apostrophe when that's necessary to make syllabification unambiguous. If there are medial glides they should probably be written as the corresponding vowels.

[mèþru]

<p hp b t ht d ť hť ď k hk g ɂ>
<f v s z s ś ź š ž x x̣ h ḥ>
<l j w>
<i y ɨ u e è o æ a>

If /hC/ contrasts with /ʰC/, then the first can be written as <ḧC>

[Xwtek]

/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n ny ng>
/p ʰp b t ʰt d c ʰc ɟ k ʰk g ʔ/ <p hp b t ht d tx htx dj k hk g '>
/f v s z ʂ ʐ ʃ ʒ ɕ ʑ x ɣ h ɦ/ <f v s z sr zr x j xy jy h hh>
/l j w/ <l y w>

/i y ɨ u e ɤ o æ a/ <i ui eu u e eo o ae a>