Name That Language!

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Darren
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Is it Papuan?
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Is the language an Oceanic language?
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka ha wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate ha eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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It's not from the Americas, it's not Papuan and neither is it Oceanic.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
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Karch wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:21 pm
Kolõpohũ no'õ Lakolété ru'aka rai watã rai merĩ nuhãna. Ru'aka watã rai, géhã béro kedi baha rai nuhãna. Kolõpohũ belewaĩ, na'é baha nẽ Lakolété tobo lau béro wahã. Saĩ lau tahi lolõ, ru'aka deka niwã kedi nuhãna. Ra'é lo'o ané lodo, nẽ Lakolété na'ē ikã gã nolo. Na'é weda nolo. Na'é dorē géré béhi ta'o ia béro one'ẽ, Kolõpohũ marĩ pé go'é kia, pé ka'ã keté kewaé go'ē. Kedi Lakolété weda to'u muri. Na'é dorē géré ta'o béro one’ẽ, kedi Kolõpohũ marĩ ‘pé di go'ē, ka'ã keté ana go'ē. Lakolété na'ã merẽ-merẽ.
Is it Austronesian?
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It is indeed Austronesian.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
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Nias?
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Do the tildes represent nasal vowels?
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It's not Nias, and yes, the tildes do indeed represent nasal vowels.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
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Enggano then? Though I think that unlikely, given that Enggano has full nasal harmony.
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It's not Enggano.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
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Spoken in the Philippines?
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bradrn wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:27 am Spoken in the Philippines?
No.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
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In that case, I’ll have to give up… I have no clue what this could be. Any other volunteers?
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Is it from Indonesia? I also have no clue but I’m willing to guess randomly.
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maybe Kolõpohũ spells out the name Columbus (perhaps with some nasal suffix), and if Lakolété is also a name, perhaps a French one, we could narrow it down based on geography. Certainly it's not Christopher Columbus if this is a Pacific language, unless you just decided to grab a text about something else. Either way, Im guessing the biggest clue is right at the beginning, where two proper names are stacked together, with no'õ separating them.

Im going to guess this language is spoken in the French area of Polynesia (i.e. not the country, but the area), based on having a proper name beginning with La- and the fact that the name Columbus is fairly widely distributed and need not correspond to the voyages of Christopher Columbus. (In fact, it might be a sign that it's in an English-influenced area since if it were Spanish it would more likely have come from Colón). Vanuatu has tones, right? It might be spoken in Vanuatu.
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Somehow I read those tildes as macrons...
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka ha wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate ha eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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Yes, it's indeed from Indonesia, and no, Kolõpohũ isn't related to Columbus.
Travis B. wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:16 am Somehow I read those tildes as macrons...
That's because there actually are some macrons hidden in there.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
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The macrons and acutes only appear on e, while tildes appear on all the vowels. This implies that there the ē is a nasalised version of é, which would mean that this language has a six vowel system of <i u é e o a>; and cause it’s in Indonesia, this probably means /i u e ə o a/, all with nasal counterparts. Is that correct?
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Yes, this is indeed correct.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
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Found it, it’s Solor Lamaholot (Kroon 2016). I did it by searching through Blust’s The Austronesian Languages for ‘nasal vowel’; the only Indonesian languages with nasal vowels were Acehnese and Lamaholot, and this clearly wasn’t Acehnese, so I just searched through resources on Lamaholot until I found one with Kolõpohũ, which led me to the original version of the text.

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