Word evolution game
Re: Word evolution game
Voiceless vowels fricate (in the meantime, technology has advanced):
[kxí.çēnʃ]
"display (screen); (arch.) kaleidoscope; (dial.) magnifying glass"
[kxí.çēnʃ]
"display (screen); (arch.) kaleidoscope; (dial.) magnifying glass"
/j/ <j>
Ɂaləɂahina asəkipaɂə ileku omkiroro salka.
Loɂ ɂerleku asəɂulŋusikraɂə seləɂahina əɂətlahɂun əiŋɂiɂŋa.
Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ.
Ɂaləɂahina asəkipaɂə ileku omkiroro salka.
Loɂ ɂerleku asəɂulŋusikraɂə seləɂahina əɂətlahɂun əiŋɂiɂŋa.
Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ.
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Re: Word evolution game
[kx] > [cç] before front vowels:
[ççí.çēnʃ]
kíhēnsh
"display (screen); (arch.) kaleidoscope; (dial.) magnifying glass"
[ççí.çēnʃ]
kíhēnsh
"display (screen); (arch.) kaleidoscope; (dial.) magnifying glass"
Re: Word evolution game
[ç] > [ʃ] > [s] > [θ]
[cçí.ʃēns]
kíhēnsh
"display (screen); (arch.) kaleidoscope; (dial.) magnifying glass"
[cçí.ʃēns]
kíhēnsh
"display (screen); (arch.) kaleidoscope; (dial.) magnifying glass"
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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Re: Word evolution game
[ç] > [ʃ]
[cʃí.ʃēns]
kshíshēns
"display (screen); (arch.) kaleidoscope; (dial.) magnifying glass"
[cʃí.ʃēns]
kshíshēns
"display (screen); (arch.) kaleidoscope; (dial.) magnifying glass"
Re: Word evolution game
TS > S / #_ ; Mocking use of dialectal words becomes fashionable:
[ʃí.ʃēns]
kshíshēns
"magnifying glass; display (screen)"
[ʃí.ʃēns]
kshíshēns
"magnifying glass; display (screen)"
/j/ <j>
Ɂaləɂahina asəkipaɂə ileku omkiroro salka.
Loɂ ɂerleku asəɂulŋusikraɂə seləɂahina əɂətlahɂun əiŋɂiɂŋa.
Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ.
Ɂaləɂahina asəkipaɂə ileku omkiroro salka.
Loɂ ɂerleku asəɂulŋusikraɂə seləɂahina əɂətlahɂun əiŋɂiɂŋa.
Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ.
Re: Word evolution game
People get sick of using so many sibilants, so they adopt [ʃ] > [x] when not before [i].
[ʃí.xēns]
kshíshēns
"magnifying glass; display (screen)"
[ʃí.xēns]
kshíshēns
"magnifying glass; display (screen)"
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Re: Word evolution game
Level tones turn into contrastive contour tones:
[ʃí.xèns]
shíshēns
"magnifying glass; display (screen)"
[ʃí.xèns]
shíshēns
"magnifying glass; display (screen)"
/j/ <j>
Ɂaləɂahina asəkipaɂə ileku omkiroro salka.
Loɂ ɂerleku asəɂulŋusikraɂə seləɂahina əɂətlahɂun əiŋɂiɂŋa.
Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ.
Ɂaləɂahina asəkipaɂə ileku omkiroro salka.
Loɂ ɂerleku asəɂulŋusikraɂə seləɂahina əɂətlahɂun əiŋɂiɂŋa.
Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ.
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Re: Word evolution game
It could easily come from lateralization of a rhoticized *s.
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Re: Word evolution game
Vowels lengthen in open syllables:
[ʃíː.xèns]
shíhēns
"magnifying glass; display (screen)"
[ʃíː.xèns]
shíhēns
"magnifying glass; display (screen)"
Re: Word evolution game
But that is not a direct change, and is likely to not be unconditional.Man in Space wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:44 pm It could easily come from lateralization of a rhoticized *s.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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Re: Word evolution game
I believe the original intention of the game was to do one shift per round (though this could be a chain shift, but not a sequences of shifts piling up), because of how loopy (and I am as guilty of making it so as anybody else) the Phrase Evolution Game got. Consequently [s] > [l] does strike me as an implausible (if not impossible) direct change.
Re: Word evolution game
I made my original comment because someone seems to have a tendency to frequently introduce implausible spontaneous lateralization...Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:50 pm I believe the original intention of the game was to do one shift per round (though this could be a chain shift, but not a sequences of shifts piling up), because of how loopy (and I am as guilty of making it so as anybody else) the Phrase Evolution Game got. Consequently [s] > [l] does strike me as an implausible (if not impossible) direct change.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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Re: Word evolution game
Yes, and I agree that this is a problem for its implausibility, since a sequence of shifts seems very much against the spirit of the game. I wouldn't object to [dʲ] > [l] (attested in Latin), [n] > [l] (attested in initial position in Cantonese), or any number of others, like [j] > [ʎ], [ŋ] or [w] > [ɫ], or even a [ʃ] > [ɬ].
Re: Word evolution game
I feel that less frequent sound changes should be made, well, less frequently. While lateralization does happen, as you state, it is not a common sound change overall, and certainly whole classes of phone should not be lateralized simultaneously (e.g. turning multiple different kinds of voiceless fricatives into laterals).Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 7:57 pmYes, and I agree that this is a problem for its implausibility, since a sequence of shifts seems very much against the spirit of the game. I wouldn't object to [dʲ] > [l] (attested in Latin), [n] > [l] (attested in initial position in Cantonese), or any number of others, like [j] > [ʎ], [ŋ] or [w] > [ɫ], or even a [ʃ] > [ɬ].
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Re: Word evolution game
Fortition of fricatives after nasals:
[ʃíː.xènt͡s]
shíhēns
"magnifying glass; display (screen)"
[ʃíː.xènt͡s]
shíhēns
"magnifying glass; display (screen)"
/j/ <j>
Ɂaləɂahina asəkipaɂə ileku omkiroro salka.
Loɂ ɂerleku asəɂulŋusikraɂə seləɂahina əɂətlahɂun əiŋɂiɂŋa.
Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ.
Ɂaləɂahina asəkipaɂə ileku omkiroro salka.
Loɂ ɂerleku asəɂulŋusikraɂə seləɂahina əɂətlahɂun əiŋɂiɂŋa.
Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ.
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Re: Word evolution game
Nasal + voiceless consonant sequences become prenasalised voiced consonants
[ʃíː.xènd͡z]
shíhēns
"magnifying glass; display (screen)"
[ʃíː.xènd͡z]
shíhēns
"magnifying glass; display (screen)"
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Re: Word evolution game
Sibilant-plus-/i/ sequences change into sibilant-plus-syllabic-fricative sequences à la Mandarin
[ʃʒ̩ː.xènd͡z]
shíhēns
'magnifying glass; screen; pane of glass'
[ʃʒ̩ː.xènd͡z]
shíhēns
'magnifying glass; screen; pane of glass'
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Re: Word evolution game
Rhotacism:
[ʃʒ̩ː.xènʁ̞]
shihērn
'magnifying glass; screen; pane of glass'
[ʃʒ̩ː.xènʁ̞]
shihērn
'magnifying glass; screen; pane of glass'
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Re: Word evolution game
Backing of front vowels when velars precede:
[ʃʒ̩ː.xɤ̀nʁ̞]
shihērn
'screen; pane of glass; (obsolete) magnifying glass'
[ʃʒ̩ː.xɤ̀nʁ̞]
shihērn
'screen; pane of glass; (obsolete) magnifying glass'
Re: Word evolution game
*x > *ɣ intervocalically
[ʃʒ̩ː.ɣɤ̀nʁ̞]
shihērn
'screen; pane of glass; (obsolete) magnifying glass'
[ʃʒ̩ː.ɣɤ̀nʁ̞]
shihērn
'screen; pane of glass; (obsolete) magnifying glass'