Word evolution game

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Zju
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Voiceless vowels fricate (in the meantime, technology has advanced):

[kxí.çēnʃ]

"display (screen); (arch.) kaleidoscope; (dial.) magnifying glass"
/j/ <j>

Ɂaləɂahina asəkipaɂə ileku omkiroro salka.
Loɂ ɂerleku asəɂulŋusikraɂə seləɂahina əɂətlahɂun əiŋɂiɂŋa.
Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ.
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[kx] > [cç] before front vowels:

[ççí.çēnʃ]
kíhēnsh

"display (screen); (arch.) kaleidoscope; (dial.) magnifying glass"
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[ç] > [ʃ] > [s] > [θ]

[cçí.ʃēns]
kíhēnsh

"display (screen); (arch.) kaleidoscope; (dial.) magnifying glass"
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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[ç] > [ʃ]

[cʃí.ʃēns]
kshíshēns

"display (screen); (arch.) kaleidoscope; (dial.) magnifying glass"
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TS > S / #_ ; Mocking use of dialectal words becomes fashionable:

[ʃí.ʃēns]
kshíshēns

"magnifying glass; display (screen)"
/j/ <j>

Ɂaləɂahina asəkipaɂə ileku omkiroro salka.
Loɂ ɂerleku asəɂulŋusikraɂə seləɂahina əɂətlahɂun əiŋɂiɂŋa.
Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ.
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People get sick of using so many sibilants, so they adopt [ʃ] > [x] when not before [i].

[ʃí.xēns]
kshíshēns

"magnifying glass; display (screen)"
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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Level tones turn into contrastive contour tones:

[ʃí.xèns]
shíshēns

"magnifying glass; display (screen)"
/j/ <j>

Ɂaləɂahina asəkipaɂə ileku omkiroro salka.
Loɂ ɂerleku asəɂulŋusikraɂə seləɂahina əɂətlahɂun əiŋɂiɂŋa.
Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ.
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It could easily come from lateralization of a rhoticized *s.
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Vowels lengthen in open syllables:

[ʃíː.xèns]
shíhēns

"magnifying glass; display (screen)"
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Man in Space wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:44 pm It could easily come from lateralization of a rhoticized *s.
But that is not a direct change, and is likely to not be unconditional.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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I believe the original intention of the game was to do one shift per round (though this could be a chain shift, but not a sequences of shifts piling up), because of how loopy (and I am as guilty of making it so as anybody else) the Phrase Evolution Game got. Consequently [s] > [l] does strike me as an implausible (if not impossible) direct change.
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Rounin Ryuuji wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:50 pm I believe the original intention of the game was to do one shift per round (though this could be a chain shift, but not a sequences of shifts piling up), because of how loopy (and I am as guilty of making it so as anybody else) the Phrase Evolution Game got. Consequently [s] > [l] does strike me as an implausible (if not impossible) direct change.
I made my original comment because someone seems to have a tendency to frequently introduce implausible spontaneous lateralization...
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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Travis B. wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 7:27 pm I made my original comment because someone seems to have a tendency to frequently introduce implausible spontaneous lateralization...
Yes, and I agree that this is a problem for its implausibility, since a sequence of shifts seems very much against the spirit of the game. I wouldn't object to [dʲ] > [l] (attested in Latin), [n] > [l] (attested in initial position in Cantonese), or any number of others, like [j] > [ʎ], [ŋ] or [w] > [ɫ], or even a [ʃ] > [ɬ].
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Rounin Ryuuji wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 7:57 pm
Travis B. wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 7:27 pm I made my original comment because someone seems to have a tendency to frequently introduce implausible spontaneous lateralization...
Yes, and I agree that this is a problem for its implausibility, since a sequence of shifts seems very much against the spirit of the game. I wouldn't object to [dʲ] > [l] (attested in Latin), [n] > [l] (attested in initial position in Cantonese), or any number of others, like [j] > [ʎ], [ŋ] or [w] > [ɫ], or even a [ʃ] > [ɬ].
I feel that less frequent sound changes should be made, well, less frequently. While lateralization does happen, as you state, it is not a common sound change overall, and certainly whole classes of phone should not be lateralized simultaneously (e.g. turning multiple different kinds of voiceless fricatives into laterals).
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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Fortition of fricatives after nasals:

[ʃíː.xènt͡s]
shíhēns

"magnifying glass; display (screen)"
/j/ <j>

Ɂaləɂahina asəkipaɂə ileku omkiroro salka.
Loɂ ɂerleku asəɂulŋusikraɂə seləɂahina əɂətlahɂun əiŋɂiɂŋa.
Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ.
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Nasal + voiceless consonant sequences become prenasalised voiced consonants

[ʃíː.xènd͡z]
shíhēns

"magnifying glass; display (screen)"
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Sibilant-plus-/i/ sequences change into sibilant-plus-syllabic-fricative sequences à la Mandarin

[ʃʒ̩ː.xènd͡z]
shíhēns

'magnifying glass; screen; pane of glass'
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Rhotacism:

[ʃʒ̩ː.xènʁ̞]
shihērn

'magnifying glass; screen; pane of glass'
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Backing of front vowels when velars precede:

[ʃʒ̩ː.xɤ̀nʁ̞]
shihērn

'screen; pane of glass; (obsolete) magnifying glass'
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*x > *ɣ intervocalically

[ʃʒ̩ː.ɣɤ̀nʁ̞]
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'screen; pane of glass; (obsolete) magnifying glass'
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