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alice
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A sound change begins

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Here's some evidence for the beginnings of a new sound-change in English, whereby initial prevocalic /h/ > /k/ when the preceding word ends with unstressed /i/. We can look forward to hearing this gradually extending to other contexts and perhaps other phonemes, thus getting a well-documented example of sound change in action.
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alice wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:32 pm Here's some evidence for the beginnings of a new sound-change in English, whereby initial prevocalic /h/ > /k/ when the preceding word ends with unstressed /i/. We can look forward to hearing this gradually extending to other contexts and perhaps other phonemes, thus getting a well-documented example of sound change in action.
I personally have noticed people in media content (local advertisements and like) who pronounce /h/ before high front vowels (not just /j/) as not just [ç] but what to my ears almost sounds like [cç].
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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If this is serious rather than sarcastic, isn't this, then, the wrong forum for this?
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I don't see kow this could be sarcastic.
/j/ <j>

Ɂaləɂahina asəkipaɂə ileku omkiroro salka.
Loɂ ɂerleku asəɂulŋusikraɂə seləɂahina əɂətlahɂun əiŋɂiɂŋa.
Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ. Hərlaɂ.
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Raphael wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:09 pm If this is serious rather than sarcastic, isn't this, then, the wrong forum for this?
I wasn't actually sure.
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One guy replied, and I think he's onto something:

My theory is all these folk routinely use the c word during off camera editorial discussions thus increasing chances of on air mishap 10 fold. Also not ruling out possibility at least 2 of those were entirely deliberate.
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