Hmm, which ones?conlangernoob wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:54 am 4. I think a few languages have a future/nonfuture split.
Not universal, though! There are a surprising number of languages with a marked imperative (see e.g. WALS feature 70).
Hmm, which ones?conlangernoob wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:54 am 4. I think a few languages have a future/nonfuture split.
Not universal, though! There are a surprising number of languages with a marked imperative (see e.g. WALS feature 70).
Bhat suggests Manipuri. Examples suggest that eventive/dynamic verbs distinguish future, (present?) progressive/durative, vs everything else (past/present habitual/...), whereas stative verbs just distinguish future vs non-future. But how much you can infer from a few examples is a good question.bradrn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 5:09 pmHmm, which ones?conlangernoob wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:54 am 4. I think a few languages have a future/nonfuture split.
Manipuri is its own special case; IIRC according to Dixon its alignment is purely semantic, rather than relying on syntactic roles.chris_notts wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:38 pmBhat suggests Manipuri. Examples suggest that eventive/dynamic verbs distinguish future, (present?) progressive/durative, vs everything else (past/present habitual/...), whereas stative verbs just distinguish future vs non-future. But how much you can infer from a few examples is a good question.bradrn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 5:09 pmHmm, which ones?conlangernoob wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:54 am 4. I think a few languages have a future/nonfuture split.
Bhat agrees! Sorry, I misunderstood the question and thought you just wanted examples where the tense distinction was fut vs non-fut, and not a tense conditioned alignment split.bradrn wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:15 pmManipuri is its own special case; IIRC according to Dixon its alignment is purely semantic, rather than relying on syntactic roles.chris_notts wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:38 pmBhat suggests Manipuri. Examples suggest that eventive/dynamic verbs distinguish future, (present?) progressive/durative, vs everything else (past/present habitual/...), whereas stative verbs just distinguish future vs non-future. But how much you can infer from a few examples is a good question.
Ah, sorry for being unclear! As I recall, for a fut/nonfut distinction alone Finnish suffices. It’s the alignment split I was wondering about.chris_notts wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:21 pmBhat agrees! Sorry, I misunderstood the question and thought you just wanted examples where the tense distinction was fut vs non-fut, and not a tense conditioned alignment split.bradrn wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:15 pmManipuri is its own special case; IIRC according to Dixon its alignment is purely semantic, rather than relying on syntactic roles.chris_notts wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:38 pm
Bhat suggests Manipuri. Examples suggest that eventive/dynamic verbs distinguish future, (present?) progressive/durative, vs everything else (past/present habitual/...), whereas stative verbs just distinguish future vs non-future. But how much you can infer from a few examples is a good question.