Name That Language!

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bradrn
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From South America?
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bradrn wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 6:32 pm From South America?
No.
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
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Then… gosh, I’m really not sure. Perhaps it could be Austronesian?
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bradrn wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 7:28 pm Then… gosh, I’m really not sure. Perhaps it could be Austronesian?
Yes.
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
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OK then, we have a place to start. Vowels ⟨a e i o u ã ẽ ĩ ė⟩, consonants ⟨m n p t k ' d j h l r⟩. My first thought was New Caledonian, but that consonant system clearly doesn’t match. But perhaps it could be from the Bismark Archipelago?

The most puzzling feature is, of course, ⟨ė⟩. I’d put that down to typewriter orthographies, except that overdot is not a common diacritic in typewriters. I’ll have to keep on thinking about that.
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bradrn wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 9:36 am But perhaps it could be from the Bismark Archipelago?
No.
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
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On further thought, I’m almost certain this is Enggano. The vowel nasality matches, as does the word length and frequency of glottal stops. But the smoking gun is that I found an online example containing ⟨ė⟩.

(Ironically, Enggano is one of the only Austronesian languages I have any familiarity with. In my defense, this is my first time seeing the practical orthography.)

EDIT: Yes, it’s Enggano. This sample text is the Mahkotaadat story.
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bradrn wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:53 pm On further thought, I’m almost certain this is Enggano.
Yes.
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
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Next text:
꜒ker-꜒ker ꜒꜖di-꜒꜖i. ꜖꜒ɡal꜒ta ꜒꜖yal ꜒ta ꜖꜒yoɡo ꜖꜒apal ꜖꜒ɡal ꜒ta ꜖꜒yoɡo ꜖꜒nem ꜒꜖ɡolm ꜒꜖duɡwe. ꜒꜖ɡolm꜒ia ꜒꜖yal ꜒sul ꜒꜖i꜒rae ꜒꜖mol ꜒꜖eipka. ꜒꜖taim꜒ta ꜒i꜒ra꜒we ꜖꜒ɡal ꜖꜒tau ꜒ure ꜖꜒yel ꜒꜖dum ꜒꜖duɡwe. ꜖꜒none ꜒nul ꜒꜖du ꜒ku ꜒꜖ele ꜒꜖bus ꜖꜒kuna ꜒i ꜒ka꜖꜒kopa ꜒sre el꜖꜒apɡa ꜒er ꜒꜖si ꜒꜖suɡwal ꜖꜒napn꜒wa ꜒꜖dum ꜒꜖duɡwe.
(Sadly my font doesn’t seem to ligate the tone marks properly. Hope it works for you.)
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This is clearly a Chimbu-Wahgi language, and I happen to remember which one, since even though I last looked at the grammar some 4 years ago the left-side tone marks the author chose for the transcription were very distinctive. I however won't say which one it is yet, so that others can also try guessing.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
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Karch wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 2:07 pm This is clearly a Chimbu-Wahgi language
Yes, well done. To prevent this from turning into endless repeated questions, I’ll say you can go next if no-one else can find the language in the next 3 or so questions.
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Looks like no-one else is going to hazard a guess, so to keep the game going, I’ll give the next text to Karch.
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The language of the last sample, if I'm not mistaken, was Dom. Here's the next sample:
dzwlaì chínazẁ, pwpwuni thaí zivwige, tatá swmòge, maixini zaókhykhó sho, maixini khaóto khó twuni, maixini tozw twu tà baisẁ. maikǐni tosw twu tà, ijě khaóto mẁli pai twukhe, ijě zaókhy pailikhaivwikhe rwùni khó twu tà khó shò tà baisẁ. ve raikaikìko, è lwù twujo lwù vaijo.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
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Is this one Sino-Tibetan?
Karch wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2024 7:08 pm The language of the last sample, if I'm not mistaken, was Dom.
Indeed it was.
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bradrn wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2024 7:22 pm Is this one Sino-Tibetan?
Yes, it is.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
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Karch wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2024 7:27 pm
bradrn wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2024 7:22 pm Is this one Sino-Tibetan?
Yes, it is.
In that case I’ll probably not guess any further, because I’m terrible at Sino-Tibetan and the game always degenerates to me asking endless random questions. I’ll let Nort work it out.
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Is it Lolo-Burmese?
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
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Nortaneous wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2024 8:47 pm Is it Lolo-Burmese?
No.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
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Is it a Sal language?
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Darren wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:06 am Is it a Sal language?
No.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
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