Old Dersite [scratchpad/note dump]

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Old Dersite [scratchpad/note dump]

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Introduction:
Old Dersite is a posteriori derived from Common Brittonic, and thus related to Welsh and Breton.
(It's "Old" Dersite because my intention is for this iteration of the language to be eventually be a liturgical and literary language contrasted with a more modern spoken form—but that is fairly far in the future lmao.)

Consonants:
  • The consonant reflexes of obstruents are quite conservative between Old Dersite and Common Brittonic; the vast majority have remained basically the same.
  • /k/ is spelled as <c>. /ɸ, β, θ, ð, χ, ɣ/ are spelled as <ph, bh, th, dh, ch, gh>.
  • /n/ is realized as [ŋ] before a velar, but this distinction is not phonemic or orthographically represented.
  • /h/ is now only pronounced word-initially, but is still written word-internally.
  • <ll> represents /ɬ/.
  • /r/ has become [h] word-finally in certain contexts (primarily after reflexes of CBr /u, o, ʉ/); in other contexts word-final /r/ is realized as [ʂ] (primarily after reflexes of CBr /i ɨ/). [ʂ] is always written as <r>; whether the <r> is orthographically retained in cases where it is realized as [h] is somewhat idiosyncratic and lexically determined.
  • Similarly, syllable-final /rr/ is sometimes realized as [ʐ] (primarily after reflexes of CBr. /i ɨ/).
  • The labialized phonemes CBr /gw β̃ hw/ → OD /gʷ β ʍ/ are written <g(w) bh hw>, but are in the process of shifting into [w β ɸ].
CBr OD reflex Spelling
p b t d k g p b t d k g p b t d c g
f β θ ð x ɣ ɸ β θ ð χ ɣ ph bh th dh ch gh
gw β̃ hw gʷ β ʍ g(w) bh hw
h s j w [h~∅] s j w h s i w
l ll r rr m n l ɬ [ɾ~h~ʂ] [r~ʐ] m [n~ŋ] l ll r/∅ rr m n

Vowels:
CBr OD reflex Spelling
e ɛ e
ė (e̝) ei
ɨ ɪ (stressed), ə (unstressed) y
i i i
ʉ ɪ (stressed), ə (unstressed) u
u ou
a a a
o aw (stressed), ɔ (unstressed) au, o

Stress and Syllabification:
Stress is mostly regular, falling on the final syllable. One exception is "bird" edhyn [ˈɛː.ðən] < CBr *edn.
Length is non-phonemic for vowels, but gemination is phonemic for consonants. Typically, the vowel in a stressed syllable is lengthened, unless one of the consonants in that syllable is geminated or part of a cluster; that is, only one “long” phoneme may appear in a syllable. Thus, “woman” ben is [bɛːn], but when the geminate or nasalizing mutations apply, it is bben [bːɛn] and mmen [mːɛn]; “this” hynn is [hənː], not *[həːnː] (although the monosyllable hynn is typically not stressed in any case).
This syllabic length restriction also applies to consonants; in the case where a syllable contains a phonemically long consonant in both onset and coda, an epenthetic vowel is added if necessary and the word is resyllabified to move the long coda consonant to the next syllable. Epenthetic vowels are not written orthographically, and note that stress does not move. Thus, a hypothetical lexeme bbenn would not be realized *[bːɛnː] but as [ˈbːɛ.nːə] or [ˈbːɛn.nə].
Note also that this applies to phonemically long consonants; [χ] when originally derived from a geminated /h/ ([hː] > [χ]) is, of course, patterned as a geminate (thus chynn *[χənː] > [ˈχən.nə]), and other instances of the phoneme /χ/ are typically reanalyzed this way by analogy as well.

Consonant mutations:
There are four mutations in Old Dersite: null, leniting (L), nasalizing (N), and geminating (H).
  • Leniting mutation: voiceless plosives become voiced plosives; voiced plosives (and /m/) become voiced fricatives. /p t k {b m} d g/ → /b d g β ð ɣ/
  • Nasalizing mutation: voiced plosives become geminated nasal, nasals geminate, n- prothesis before vowels. /{b m} {d n} g V/ → /mm nn ŋg n-V/
  • Geminating mutation: plosives and voiceless fricatives geminate, h- prothesis before vowels. /p b t d k g s h V/ → /pp bb tt dd cc gg ss ch h-V/
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Re: Old Dersite [scratchpad/note dump]

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Noun Paradigms:
Old Dersite retains two cases, nominative (subjective) and accusative (objective). There are two noun classes, which follow the typical Indo-European masculine/feminine gender division.
The dual has been merged with the plural, which is indicated by ablaut. On a basic level stressed vowels front and, if possible, raise: /a e {au ou}/ → /ei i y/; pretonic unstressed vowels may raise if the stressed vowel is now high, notably /e/ > /ei/ and /o/ > /u/.
Cases are indicated by mutation on the initial consonant of the noun or adjective. Feminine nouns in the nominative singular lenite, while masculine nouns do not mutate; accusative singular nouns of any gender nasalize. Plural number is typically indicated by ablaut. The definite article ar triggers gemination in the accusative plural.
The former genitive case has been replaced by a periphrastic construction using din, “of”. Note that din does not trigger mutation, but does take mutation after a third-person singular pronoun:

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ar 		edhyn 		din 	ben
det.nom.masc	bird.nom.masc 	poss	woman
the bird of the woman 

hi 		dhin 	ben
3p.nom.masc	poss	woman
hi 		ddin 	ben
3p.nom.fem	poss	woman
it, which is the woman’s
Pronouns:
The nominative forms of the personal pronouns are:
first second third
sg mi ti hi (m. +L, f. +H)*
pl ni hwi hi +N*
*The mutation indicated on the nominative third-person forms applies only to certain following prepositions, including the accusative and genitive forms of pronouns: <gweilid hi dou> “he sees thee”, <gweilid hi ttou> “she sees thee”, <gwelint hi tou> “they see thee”, but <gweilid hi n-edhyn> “he/she sees a bird”.

Accusative forms are:
first second third
sg me tou [twɔ] nnyn (m.), mmyn (f.)
pl nau hwe chi

The older genitive forms for the first and second singular pronouns and for first person plural are still used in formal speech, but in casual speech are frequently replaced by periphrastic constructions with din + accusative pronoun:
first second third
sg (form.) men
(cas.) dimme [dɪm.ˈmɛ]
(form.) tu [tə, ti]
(cas.) din tou
-
din i
pl (form.) nu [nə, ni]
(cas.) dinnau [dɪn.ˈnaw]
hwych
-
dych
-
Thus, in formal speech one might hear men edhyn, nu edhyn, tu edhyn, hwych edhyn, edhyn din i, dych edhyn, while the colloquial equivalents would be edhyn dimme, edhyn dinnau, edhyn din tou, hwych edhyn, edhyn din i, dych edhyn.

Verb Paradigms:
...still need a TON of work, I need to go through and do a bunch of weird little analogies to mangle the endings.
If you just mechanically put, e.g. the present tense for CBr third conjugation through the current sound changes it comes out as

gweilyd “to see”
first second third impersonal
pres. sg gweilibh gweilidh absolutive: gweilid
conjunctive: gwel
gwelir
pres. pl gwelimm gwelid gwelint gwelintau

eighyd “to see”
first second third impersonal
pres. sg eighibh eighidh absolutive: eighid
conjunctive: agh
aghir
pres. pl aghimm aghid aghint aghintau

The absolutive form of a verb is used normally; the conjunct form of a verb is used with a preverbal particle such as ni, “not”. The impersonal form is used for impersonal, passive, and gerundive constructions (see below).
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Syntax:
Basic sentences are VSO. Determiners come before the noun; adjectives come after.

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Gweilid 		bhen 			ioanc 		n-edhyn 	nglas. 
[gweɪ.ˈliːd 		βɛːn 			jɔ.ˈwaŋk 	ˈnɛː.ðən 	ŋglas]
see.3p.pres.ind		woman.nom.fem		young		bird.acc.masc	blue
A young woman sees a blue bird.
	
Ni 	gwel 	ar 		edhyn 		ar 		mmen.
[niː 	gwɛːl 	aɾ 		ˈɛː.ðən 	aɾ 		mːɛn]
neg	see.3p	det.nom.masc	bird		det.acc.fem	woman	
The bird does not see the woman.
Eighibh mi, eighidh ti, eighid hi, ni agh hi; aghimm ni, aghid hwi, aghint hi.
I go, thou goest, he/she/it goes, he/she/it doesn’t go; we go, ye go, they go.

Gweilibh mi chi, gweilidh ti mmyn, gweilid hi dou, ni gwel hi nau; gwelimm ni hwe, gwelid hwi me, gwelint hi nnyn.
I see them, thou seest her, he sees thee, he/she/it does not see us; we see you, ye see me, they see him.
Passive, impersonal, and gerundive constructions (using the “impersonal” form of the verb) do not require a subject, but if one is present the construction of the containing clause is SVO.

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Gwelir 		n-edhyn. 
see.3p.pres.imp	bird.acc.masc
A bird is seen.

Ar 		bhen 		gwelir 		n-edhyn,	eighid 		hi.	
det.nom.fem 	woman.nom.fem	see.3p.pres.imp	bird.acc.masc	go.3p.pres.ind	3p.nom.fem
The woman, seeing/having seen a bird, goes. 
	
Eighid 		ar		bhen,		gwelir 		n-edhyn. 
go.3p.pres.ind 	det.nom.fem	woman.nom.fem	see.3p.pres.imp	bird.acc.masc
The woman goes, seeing/having seen a bird. 
A pronominal subject is optionally acceptable for emphasis, typically creating a connotation of a stronger causative (rather than merely temporal or spatial) relationship between the clauses:
Eighid ar bhen, hi gwelir n-edhyn.
The woman goes, because she saw a bird.

And note that the main verb of the sentence does require an explicit subject to follow it:
*Ar bhen gwelir n-edhyn, eighid.
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Lexicon
ben [bɛːn] n.f. “woman”. pl bin [biːn]. < CBr *ben < PC *benā
gour [gʷwɔːh] n.m. “man”. pl gwyr [gʷwɪʂ]. < CBr *gwur < PC *wiros
edhyn [ˈɛː.ðən] n.m.“bird”. pl idhyn [ˈi.ðən]. < CBr *edn < PC *ɸetnos
ioanc [jɔ.ˈwaŋk] adj. “young”. < CBr *jowank < PC *jowankos
glas [glaːs] adj. “blue”. < CBr *glas < PC *glastos
ar [aɾ] det. “the, definite article”. < CBr *hɨnn < PC *sindos
hynn [hənː] demonstrative “this, that”. < CBr *hɨnn < PC *sindos
gweilyd [gʷeɪ.ˈlɪːd] verb. “to see”. conj. stem gwel–. < CBr *gwelɨd < PC *weleti
eighyd [eɪ.ˈɣɪːd] verb. “to go”. conj. stem agh–. < CBr *ėɣɨd < PC *ageti
ni [niː] prvbl part. “not, negation”. triggers conjunctive form in third-person verbs. < CBr *ni < PC *nīs
nnyn [nːən] third person masculine accusative pronoun, “him”. suppletive form < *n-dyn (nasal mutation on dyn, “man, human being, person”)
mmyn [mːən] third person feminine accusative pronoun, “her”. suppletive form < *n-ben (nasal mutation on ben, “woman”) reanalyzed by analogy with nnyn.
chi [χi] third person plural accusative pronoun, “them”. < *c-hi (geminate mutation on hi, “they”)
din [diːn] possessive preposition, “of”. < CBr *din < PC *dūnī (“house, stronghold”, genitive)
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