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[Ahzoh]

/ˈɑː.ni/ "1sg,NOM/ sounds mellifluous but /ˈɑː.mɑ/ "2sg.NOM" and /ˈɑː.sɑ/ "3sg.NOM" sound absolutely strenuous to say.

Apart from "ani" being Hebrew, I have no qualms with "ama" or "asa". You may find them unpleasant, but you cannot be serious they're "strenuous".

I am serious, I feel like I have to put in more articulatory effort to say those words compared to /ˈɑː.ni/ and /ˈɑː.ti/

Also they're all formed by combining the morpheme ā- with the subject suffixes, just as the negative agreement pronouns are form by the morpheme tuC- and the subject suffixes.

[keenir]

/ˈɑː.ni/ "1sg,NOM/ sounds mellifluous but /ˈɑː.mɑ/ "2sg.NOM" and /ˈɑː.sɑ/ "3sg.NOM" sound absolutely strenuous to say.

Apart from "ani" being Hebrew, I have no qualms with "ama" or "asa". You may find them unpleasant, but you cannot be serious they're "strenuous".

I am serious, I feel like I have to put in more articulatory effort to say those words compared to /ˈɑː.ni/ and /ˈɑː.ti/

when I try saying them, I expend as much movement in my mouth saying /ti/ as I do saying /sa/ though if its too much irritant, just switch to /si/ instead.

and /ma/ and /mi/ are no more effortful than /ni/

Also they're all formed by combining the morpheme ā- with the subject suffixes, just as the negative agreement pronouns are form by the morpheme tuC- and the subject suffixes.

and thats a bad thing?

[Ahzoh]

Apart from "ani" being Hebrew, I have no qualms with "ama" or "asa". You may find them unpleasant, but you cannot be serious they're "strenuous".

I am serious, I feel like I have to put in more articulatory effort to say those words compared to /ˈɑː.ni/ and /ˈɑː.ti/

when I try saying them, I expend as much movement in my mouth saying /ti/ as I do saying /sa/ though if its too much irritant, just switch to /si/ instead.

and /ma/ and /mi/ are no more effortful than /ni/

I suppose it is just me then

The vocalic pattern of the subject affixes is -ni, -ma, -ta/-sa, -ti, -man, -tan/-san so that there is no conflation between the third person singular and the 1st person plural, otherwise i would have made them all end in -i just like the oblique suffixes.

I also thought about changing the third person suffixes to a different consonant, but coronals like /t/ just have a lot of adjacental compatibility with other consonants that I can't find with, say, /p b k g s x/.

[Ahzoh]

Any one here good with mediawiki code (not Lua) and template stuff?

[bradrn]

A somewhat random question, but… I remember seeing a joke conlang a couple of years ago, and I’m trying to find it again. The problem is that I don’t remember what it was called, nor the name of the creator (though IIRC he was a professional linguist). I do have a general memory of the premise of the conlang: it was presented as an overview of a real language somewhere in the world (perhaps the Caucasus), with all its features as annoying and unhelpful to the linguist as conceivably possible. The phonology was nearly unpronouncable, the morphology was obnoxious, and (IIRC) to round it off the customs of the locals involving harassing any visiting linguists. As I recall, their local legend was supposed to be that God gave them this language as punishment. I recall the phrase ‘phase of the moon’ cropping up at one point.

Alas, searching online for the key phrases here turns up nothing. But perhaps one of our long-timers has some recollection of what I’m talking about?

[WeepingElf]

Maybe something in Speculative Grammarian? Otherwise, no idea.

[Glass Half Baked]

Found it.

[bradrn]

Maybe something in Speculative Grammarian? Otherwise, no idea.

I did consider that, but I’m pretty sure the actual document was just a PDF on the author’s personal webpage.

Found it.

Ha, ha, ha. Very funny.

[foxcatdog]

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