What have you accomplished today?
Re: What have you accomplished today?
I have added more to my beginnings of a grammar, including a good number of example sentences.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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Re: What have you accomplished today?
Wouldn’t it make better sense to have palatalized allophones before close vowels, instead of before front vowels ?Travis B. wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:42 pm I have collected what I have written about Rihalle Kaafi into the beginnings of a basic grammar.
(Or, if you want palatalization to be perseverative rather than anticipatory, after close vowels.)
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It might not matter what I think makes more sense.
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Re: What have you accomplished today?
I don't think so. Palatalization before front vowels is very much a thing; I don't know any language that palatalizes before close vowels. You may be thinking of the RUKI rule in Balto-Slavic and Indo-Iranian, which backs (not palatalizes; the outcomes in Indo-Aryan are retroflex, and in Slavic, velar) /s/ after close vowels, velar stops and /r/.TomHChappell wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:34 pmWouldn’t it make better sense to have palatalized allophones before close vowels, instead of before front vowels ?Travis B. wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:42 pm I have collected what I have written about Rihalle Kaafi into the beginnings of a basic grammar.
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Re: What have you accomplished today?
Japanese palatalizes before high vowels, right?
Re: What have you accomplished today?
You're thinking of the realization of /t/ as [ts] before /ɯ/, which is distinct from the palatalization before /i/ and /iː/ or, historically, /e/ and /eː/* in Japanese.
Edit: * before Early Modern Japanese, present-day /se/ and /ze/ were palatalized, presumably as [ɕe] and [ʑe].
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Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Re: What have you accomplished today?
Palatalization before front vowels as a class is very common crosslinguistically. It happened in Romance, Slavic, Anglo-Frisian, and Japanese (even though it has since been reversed before /e/ and /eː/) to give a few examples off the top of my head.TomHChappell wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:34 pmWouldn’t it make better sense to have palatalized allophones before close vowels, instead of before front vowels ?Travis B. wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:42 pm I have collected what I have written about Rihalle Kaafi into the beginnings of a basic grammar.
(Or, if you want palatalization to be perseverative rather than anticipatory, after close vowels.)
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It might not matter what I think makes more sense.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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Re: What have you accomplished today?
All the two-consonant CC onsets are accounted for; only the triconsonantal onsets are left. We're in the home stretch now.
Re: What have you accomplished today?
I have added more example sentences to my Rihalle Kaafi grammar.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.