What have you accomplished today?

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Travis B.
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I have added more to my beginnings of a grammar, including a good number of example sentences.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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Travis B. wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:42 pm I have collected what I have written about Rihalle Kaafi into the beginnings of a basic grammar.
Wouldn’t it make better sense to have palatalized allophones before close vowels, instead of before front vowels ?

(Or, if you want palatalization to be perseverative rather than anticipatory, after close vowels.)

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It might not matter what I think makes more sense.
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TomHChappell wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:34 pm
Travis B. wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:42 pm I have collected what I have written about Rihalle Kaafi into the beginnings of a basic grammar.
Wouldn’t it make better sense to have palatalized allophones before close vowels, instead of before front vowels ?
I don't think so. Palatalization before front vowels is very much a thing; I don't know any language that palatalizes before close vowels. You may be thinking of the RUKI rule in Balto-Slavic and Indo-Iranian, which backs (not palatalizes; the outcomes in Indo-Aryan are retroflex, and in Slavic, velar) /s/ after close vowels, velar stops and /r/.
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Japanese palatalizes before high vowels, right?
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Creyeditor wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 6:04 am Japanese palatalizes before high vowels, right?
You're thinking of the realization of /t/ as [ts] before /ɯ/, which is distinct from the palatalization before /i/ and /iː/ or, historically, /e/ and /eː/* in Japanese.

Edit: * before Early Modern Japanese, present-day /se/ and /ze/ were palatalized, presumably as [ɕe] and [ʑe].
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Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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TomHChappell wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:34 pm
Travis B. wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:42 pm I have collected what I have written about Rihalle Kaafi into the beginnings of a basic grammar.
Wouldn’t it make better sense to have palatalized allophones before close vowels, instead of before front vowels ?

(Or, if you want palatalization to be perseverative rather than anticipatory, after close vowels.)

….

It might not matter what I think makes more sense.
Palatalization before front vowels as a class is very common crosslinguistically. It happened in Romance, Slavic, Anglo-Frisian, and Japanese (even though it has since been reversed before /e/ and /eː/) to give a few examples off the top of my head.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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All the two-consonant CC onsets are accounted for; only the triconsonantal onsets are left. We're in the home stretch now.
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I have added more example sentences to my Rihalle Kaafi grammar.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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