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foxcatdog wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 11:27 pm You can't really approximate sound changes onto different language families to much. How would you approximate processes like umlaut. You can't start with a mostly monosyllabic language and end up with Torres-Banks style metaphony or approximate englishes process of final syllable reduction with an already monosyllabic language.
Old Chinese wasn’t monosyllabic, though.
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foxcatdog wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 11:27 pm You can't really approximate sound changes onto different language families to much.
You can if you're making a bogolang...I think one of the more famous examples of this is Wenydyk(sp).
How would you approximate processes like umlaut.
i thought Old/Middle English had umlauts.
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keenir wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 1:30 ami thought Old/Middle English had umlauts.
Yes, but Old Chinese hadn't. I think the point is that the phonological processes that caused it in English can't happen in Old Chinese for lack of suitable environments.


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jal wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:43 am
keenir wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 1:30 ami thought Old/Middle English had umlauts.
Yes, but Old Chinese hadn't. I think the point is that the phonological processes that caused it in English can't happen in Old Chinese for lack of suitable environments.
ah, okay. thanks for clarifying that.


I think bogolangs go more with the line from Tremors: "We must do what we can, with what we have."...which means allowing for areas where exact 1:1 correspondances can't happen.
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bradrn wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:03 am
foxcatdog wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 11:27 pm You can't really approximate sound changes onto different language families to much. How would you approximate processes like umlaut. You can't start with a mostly monosyllabic language and end up with Torres-Banks style metaphony or approximate englishes process of final syllable reduction with an already monosyllabic language.
Old Chinese wasn’t monosyllabic, though.
Yes, but IIRC OC had only a limited number of multisyllabic words that were not sesquisyllables.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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