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Umm wut? Ejective sonorants? (I hope you meant glottalized sonorants.)

Travis B. wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 7:13 pm Umm wut? Ejective sonorants? (I hope you meant glottalized sonorants.)

the glottalisation wasn't specified by the source (wikipedia)

foxcatdog wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 7:25 pm

Travis B. wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 7:13 pm Umm wut? Ejective sonorants? (I hope you meant glottalized sonorants.)

the glottalisation wasn't specified by the source (wikipedia)

Hmm… is this a real language, then? Which is it?

Consonants
*m *n *ɲ
*mˀ *nˀ *ɲˀ
*p *t *c *k
*pʰ *tʰ *cʰ *kʰ
*p’ *t’ *c’ *k’
*ts *tʃ *tʂ
*ts *tʃ *tʂ
*ts’ *tʃ’ *tʂ’
*s *ʃ *ʂ *h
*s’ *ʃ’ *ʂ’
*w *ɾ *j
*wˀ *ɾˀ *jˀ

Short Vowels
*i *ɨ *u
*e *o
*a

Long Vowels
*i: *ɨ: *u:
*e: *o:
*a:

Devoiced Vowels
*i̊ *ɨ̊ *ů
*e̊ *o̊
*å

4 tones but falling and rising can only occur on long vowels with high and low occuring on any voiced vowel.

Huamelultec

/p b t d tʲ k g ʔ/
/kʼ/
/ts tʃ/
/tsʼ tʃʼ/
/f s ɬ ʃ x/
/fˀ sˀ ɬˀ xˀ/
/m n nʲ/
/ˀm ˀn ˀnʲ/
/w l lʲ j/
/ˀw ˀl/
/ɾ r/
/a e o i u/

/nʲulʲi el benado xojpa nʲulʲepa peɾo laˀwa xolafˀa || laˀwamulʲi xojpa tʃasa tʲeʔepa || xojpa tʲepa laˀwamulʲi ˀwakaˀj ʔenapajnʲeˀwaˀmiɬˀtʃenʲaˀwaˀmane || oɬkoduj sa oɬkoduj lapempe || linʲaˀwamilʲaʔ manne xojpa tʲanmajnʲapa/

There may be errors; O'Connor's grammar doesn't use IPA (or list /tʲ/) and the orthography doesn't distinguish /x h/. A vowel length contrast is written but claimed to be noncontrastive. Sequences of fricative and glottal stop contrast with glottalized fricatives.

According to Maddieson, palatalized alveolars are mostly predictable from environment, appearing adjacent to high vowels and before /j/.

/p b t d k g/ <p b t d k g>
/ts tʃ/ <j č>
/f s ɬ ʃ x/ <f s ś š h>
/m n nʲ/ <m n ni>
/w l lʲ j/ <(o)u l li (e)i>
/ɾ r/ <r rr>
/a e o i u/ <a e o ē/ei ou> (<ei> after a palatal)
/Vʔ VCˀ/ <VV>, /#ʔV/ <aV>

/nʲulʲi el benado xojpa nʲulʲepa peɾo laˀwa xolafˀa || laˀwamulʲi xojpa tʃasa tʲeʔepa || xojpa tʲepa laˀwamulʲi ˀwakaˀj ʔenapajnʲeˀwaˀmiɬˀtʃenʲaˀwaˀmane || oɬkoduj sa oɬkoduj lapempe || linʲaˀwamilʲaʔ manne xojpa tʲanmajnʲapa/

Nioulei el benado hoeipa niouliepa pero laaua holaafa. Laauamoulei hoeipa časa tieeëpa. Hoeipa tiepa laauamoulei ouakaaei eenapaeinieeuaamiśčeniaaouaamane. Ośkodoui sa ośkodoui lapempe. Liniaaouamēliaa manne hoeipa tianmaeiniapa.

/p b t d tʲ k g ʔ/ <p b t d th k g '>
/kʼ/ <gk>
/ts tʃ/ <ẑ ĵ>
/tsʼ tʃʼ/ <ŝ ĉ>
/f s ɬ ʃ x/ <v z x j h>
/fˀ sˀ ɬˀ xˀ/ <f s c q>
/m n nʲ/ <m n nh>
/ˀm ˀn ˀnʲ/ <mp nt nth>
/w l lʲ j/ <w l lh y>
/ˀw ˀl/ <wf lx>
/ɾ r/ <r rr>
/a e o i u/ <a e o i u>

/nʲulʲi el benado xojpa nʲulʲepa peɾo laˀwa xolafˀa || laˀwamulʲi xojpa tʃasa tʲeʔepa || xojpa tʲepa laˀwamulʲi ˀwakaˀj ʔenapajnʲeˀwaˀmiɬˀtʃenʲaˀwaˀmane || oɬkoduj sa oɬkoduj lapempe || linʲaˀwamilʲaʔ manne xojpa tʲanmajnʲapa/
Nhulhi el benado hoypa nhulhepa pero lawfa holafa. Lawfamulhi hoypa ĵaza the'epa. Hoypa thepa lawfamulhi wfakayc 'enapaynhewfampicĵenhawfampane. Oxkoduy za oxkoduy lapem-pe. Linhawfamilha' manne hoypa thanmaynhapa.

Huamelultec

/p b t d tʲ k g ʔ/ <p b t d ty k g '>
/kʼ/ <k'>
/ts tʃ/ <z c>
/tsʼ tʃʼ/ <z' c'>
/f s ɬ ʃ x/ <f s lh x h>
/fˀ sˀ ɬˀ xˀ/ <f' s' lh' h'>
/m n nʲ/ <m n ny>
/ˀm ˀn ˀnʲ/ <'m 'n 'ny>
/w l lʲ j/ <w l ly j>
/ˀw ˀl ˀj/ <'w 'l 'j>
/ɾ r/ <r rr>
/a e o i u/ <a e o i u>

Omit the <y> adjacent to high vowels or before /j/.

Sequences of fricatives and glottal stops are separated with <->.

/nʲulʲi el benado xojpa nʲulʲepa peɾo laˀwa xolafˀa || laˀwamulʲi xojpa tʃasa tʲeʔepa || xojpa tʲepa laˀwamulʲi ˀwakaˀj ʔenapajnʲeˀwaˀmiɬˀtʃenʲaˀwaˀmane || oɬkoduj sa oɬkoduj lapempe || linʲaˀwamilʲaʔ manne xojpa tʲanmajnʲapa/

Nuli el benado hojpa nulepa pero la'wa holaf'a. La'wamuli hojpa casa tye'epa. Hojpa tyepa la'wamuli 'waka'j 'enapajne'wa'milhc'enya'wa'mane. Olhkoduj sa olhkoduj lapempe. Lina'wamila' manne hojpa tyanmajnapa.

Huamelultec

/p b t d tʲ k g ʔ/ <p b t d ć k g h~V́>
/kʼ/ <kh>
/ts tʃ/ <c č>
/tsʼ tʃʼ/ <z ž>
/f s ɬ ʃ x/ <f s š ś ch>
/fˀ sˀ ɬˀ xˀ/ <fh sh šh śh chh>
/m n nʲ/ <m n ń>
/ˀm ˀn ˀnʲ/ <hm hn hń>
/w l lʲ j/ <w ł l j>
/ˀw ˀl/ <hw hl>
/ɾ r/ <r rr>
/a e o i u/ <a e o i u>

ć ~ ciV

/nʲulʲi el benado xojpa nʲulʲepa peɾo laˀwa xolafˀa || laˀwamulʲi xojpa tʃasa tʲeʔepa || xojpa tʲepa laˀwamulʲi ˀwakaˀj ʔenapajnʲeˀwaˀmiɬˀtʃenʲaˀwaˀmane || oɬkoduj sa oɬkoduj lapempe || linʲaˀwamilʲaʔ manne xojpa tʲanmajnʲapa/

Niuli eł benado chojpa niulepa pero łáwa chołáfa. Łáwamuli chojpa časa ciehepa. Chojpa ciepa łáwamuli hwakáj henapajniéwámíščeniáwámane. Oškoduj sa oškoduj łapempe. Łiniáwamilá manne chojpa cianmajniapa.

Nortaneous wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 6:39 pm Niuli eł benado chojpa niulepa pero łáwa chołáfa. Łáwamuli chojpa časa ciehepa. Chojpa ciepa łáwamuli hwakáj henapajniéwámíščeniáwámane. Oškoduj sa oškoduj łapempe. Łiniáwamilá manne chojpa cianmajniapa.

Huamelultec's IRL orthography if the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth's colonisation of Trinidad and Tobago went somewhat better