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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 9:04 am
by Nortaneous
/ht hc hk/ <t c k>
/t c k/ <d j g>
/mb nd ɲɟ ŋɡ/ <bb dd jj gg>
/β ð j ɣ/ <u z i l>
/hm hn hɲ/ <mm nn nni>
/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n ni ñ>
/r x~h/ <r x>
/a ɔ e ø o i y ɯ u/ <a q e v o i y h u>
stress <f>

/kareðámɯro ŋanetɯ́jɔ kaŋanaciríðɯjɔ=ɣire | tɯharámɯkare ɣǿhte | nda tamáɣetɯjɔ kerɯɣahanáɲɟe jyhkináŋ || jyhkimá naɣaráje tɯmaɣíretɯ | héðijɔ kaŋanatɯmárije ‖ nda jérɯha | ŋɡaðe=tɯmɯrɯ́ɲɟijɔ=ka jyhkináɣ | maŋaji=korɯβánduɣire=ðɯ maŋanatɯ́ji hɔndɔmá | maŋatɯɣáre=ndomaɣan/

Garezafmhro ñanedhfiq gañanajirifzhiqlire, dhxarafmhgare lvfte, dda damaflethiq gerhlaxanafjje iykinafñ. Iykimaf nalarafie dhmalifredh, xefziiq gañanadhmafriie. Dda iefrhxa, ggazedhmhrhfjjiiqga iykinafl, mañaiigorhuafddulirezh mañanadhfii xqddqmaf, mañadhlafreddomalan.

or z ñ l ii j -> δ µ ¿ ÿ z, h -> acute or §, a -> 0 except stressed or in monosyllables or word-finally

Greδámhro µnedh§iq gµnziríδhiq¿ire, dhxrámhgre ¿v§te, dda dmá¿ethiq gerh¿xnázze ïykináµ. Iykimá n¿ráïe dhm¿íredh, xéδÿq gµndhmárÿe. Dda ïérhxa, ggδedhmhrhfzzÿqga ïykiná¿, mµÿgorhüáddu¿ireδh mµndh§ÿ xqddqmá, mµdh¿áreddom¿n.

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:21 pm
by Travis B.
Hathe

/ht hc hk/ ⟨th ch kh⟩
/t c k/ ⟨t c k⟩
/mb nd ɲɟ ŋɡ/ ⟨mb nd nj ngg⟩
/β ð j ɣ/ ⟨b d y g⟩
/hm hn hɲ/ ⟨mh nh nyh⟩
/m n ɲ ŋ/ ⟨m n ny ng⟩
/r x~h/ ⟨r x⟩
/a ɔ e ø o i y ɯ u/ ⟨a ả e ö o i ü u û⟩

Accented vowels are doubled.

/kareðámɯro ŋanetɯ́jɔ kaŋanaciríðɯjɔ=ɣire | tɯharámɯkare ɣǿhte | nda tamáɣetɯjɔ kerɯɣahanáɲɟe jyhkináŋ || jyhkimá naɣaráje tɯmaɣíretɯ | héðijɔ kaŋanatɯmárije ‖ nda jérɯha | ŋɡaðe=tɯmɯrɯ́ɲɟijɔ=ka jyhkináɣ | maŋaji=korɯβánduɣire=ðɯ maŋanatɯ́ji hɔndɔmá | maŋatɯɣáre=ndomaɣan/

⟨Karedaamuro nganetuuyả kanganacirduyả-gire, tuxaraamukare gööthe, nda tamaagetuyả kerugaxanaanje yükhinaang. Yükhimaa nagaraaye tumagiretu, heedijả kanganatumaariye. Nda yeeruxa, nggade-tumuruunjiyả-ka yükhinaag, mangayi-korubaandugire-du manganatuuyi hảndảmaa, mangatugaare-ndomagan.⟩

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:46 pm
by Darren
Hathe

/ht hc hk/ <t~(i)ght ch~tch q(u)~sc~sk>
/t c k/ <d j~dg c~ck>
/mb nd ɲɟ ŋɡ/ <b nd~nidd ng~nidg ng~nick>
/β ð j ɣ/ <v~ff z~ss y~sh g~ck>
/hm hn hɲ/ <lm rn (i)ghn>
/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n sn ng>
/r x~h/ <r h~gh>
/a ɔ e ø o i y ɯ u/ <a o a e o e u i u>
Ø <i, l>

Non-initial accented vowels are marked with a following hyphen treated orthographically as a word boundary, except final ones which are marked with an exclamation mark after the syllable.

Carrazal-murro ingannadi-yol gangannadgere-ziyockera, diharral-micarra geighta, indal dammal-cadishol garigaghannal-inga yuskenang! Yuskemal! Nackarral-ya dimacke-radi, hazeyol gangannaddimal-riya. Inda yarihal, ingassadimiri-ingeyoggal yuskenack! Mangashegorival-indugeressi mangannaddi-ye hondommal! Mangaddigal-raniddomackan.
/kareðámɯro ŋanetɯ́jɔ kaŋanaciríðɯjɔ=ɣire | tɯharámɯkare ɣǿhte | nda tamáɣetɯjɔ kerɯɣahanáɲɟe jyhkináŋ || jyhkimá naɣaráje tɯmaɣíretɯ | héðijɔ kaŋanatɯmárije ‖ nda jérɯha | ŋɡaðe=tɯmɯrɯ́ɲɟijɔ=ka jyhkináɣ | maŋaji=korɯβánduɣire=ðɯ maŋanatɯ́ji hɔndɔmá | maŋatɯɣáre=ndomaɣan/

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 11:44 pm
by bradrn
Darren wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:46 pm /ht hc hk/ <t~(i)ght ch~tch q(u)~sc~sk>
/t c k/ <d j~dg c~ck>
/mb nd ɲɟ ŋɡ/ <b nd~nidd ng~nidg ng~nick>
/β ð j ɣ/ <v~ff z~ss y~sh g~ck>
/hm hn hɲ/ <lm rn (i)ghn>
/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n sn ng>
/r x~h/ <r h~gh>
/a ɔ e ø o i y ɯ u/ <a o a e o e u i u>
Ø <i, l>
how is this one meant to work, exactly?

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:02 am
by Darren
bradrn wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 11:44 pm
Darren wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:46 pm /ht hc hk/ <t~(i)ght ch~tch q(u)~sc~sk>
/t c k/ <d j~dg c~ck>
/mb nd ɲɟ ŋɡ/ <b nd~nidd ng~nidg ng~nick>
/β ð j ɣ/ <v~ff z~ss y~sh g~ck>
/hm hn hɲ/ <lm rn (i)ghn>
/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n sn ng>
/r x~h/ <r h~gh>
/a ɔ e ø o i y ɯ u/ <a o a e o e u i u>
Ø <i, l>
how is this one meant to work, exactly?
Well, <a e o u> represent either /a ø ɔ y/ or /e i o u/, the former being represented with gemination of the following consonant or <l> and the latter by not that. <i> is /ɯ/ in most cases, but silent - used as a filler letter - when followed by a geminate. Gemination is not always simple doubling, in which cases the variation is listed above. For /nd ɲɟ ŋg/ the "plain" form is a geminate, and the short form requires a dummy vowel <iCː>.

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 6:38 pm
by Nortaneous
/ht hc hk/ <ght tch ck>
/t c k/ <t ch c/k> / <d dg(e) g> / prestress <dt dch gk>
/mb nd ɲɟ ŋɡ/ <b d j g> / <mb nd nj ng>
/β ð j ɣ/ <oo th e/i gh>
/hm hn hɲ/ <fm sn shn>
/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n ne/ni ng>
/r x~h/ <r h>
/a ɔ e ø o i y ɯ u/ <ar/aar/aC/uC oC/aw ay/á er/-ow or e/ee/ey ue iC/ih/-ir oo>
/aj ej jy ɯβ ɯj ɯ́!_j ɯ́j/ <i ai ue oo ee uy>
prestress /CaCV/ can <CuCCV> except where C2 = r

/kareðámɯro ŋanetɯ́jɔ kaŋanaciríðɯjɔ=ɣire | tɯharámɯkare ɣǿhte | nda tamáɣetɯjɔ kerɯɣahanáɲɟe jyhkináŋ || jyhkimá naɣaráje tɯmaɣíretɯ | héðijɔ kaŋanatɯmárije ‖ nda jérɯha | ŋɡaðe=tɯmɯrɯ́ɲɟijɔ=ka jyhkináɣ | maŋaji=korɯβánduɣire=ðɯ maŋanatɯ́ji hɔndɔmá | maŋatɯɣáre=ndomaɣan/
Carraythaarmaror ngunnaydteaw kungannudgerreetheawgheeray, tihharraarmiggarray gherghtay, da tummaarghádeaw kayraghuhharnaardgey ueckenang. Ueckemar nargharriay timmargheerader, haytheaw carngarnardimmaareay. Da yárihhar, garthay timmaruudgeyogga ueckenaargh, marngaryee korrooaarndoogheeráthir mungannudtuye hondommar, mungadigghaarray dormagharn.

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 2:21 am
by dɮ the phoneme
/p t̻ t̻ʲ t̻ʷ t̺ t̺ʲ t̺ʷ k kʲ kʷ q qʷ/
/t̻s̻ t̻s̻ʲ t̻s̻ʷ t̺s̺ t̺s̺ʲ t̺s̺ʷ tɕ/
/p’ t̻’ t̻ʲ’ t̻ʷ’ t̺’ t̺ʲ’ t̺ʷ’ k’ kʲ’ kʷ’ q’ qʷ’/
/t̻s̻’ t̻s̻ʲ’ t̻s̻ʷ’ t̺s̺’ t̺s̺ʲ’ t̺s̺ʷ’/
/s̻ s̻ʲ s̻ʷ s̺ s̺ʲ s̺ʷ ɕ x xʲ xʷ χ χʷ h/
/m n̻ n̻ʲ n̻ʷ ɲ/
/r rʲ rʷ j w/
/i u e o ɛ ɔ a/
/V̀ V́/

(C)V(C) or (C)C syllables; all consonants can be syllabic. Essentially a monosyllable language with some mild agglutination.

/pi s̺ʷ máɲ t̻s̻kʷat̺s̺ʲ’ χɔ́t̻s̻n̻u mat̻s̻om kí kʲ nírʷát̻s̻ s̺ʲt̻ó ɔ́ ɲ t̺ʷ’ kʷt̻ʷí s̻ʲá kí kʷat̺s̺ʲ’ ɕt̻ qɛ́wt̺s̺’it̺s̺waχ ɔ́ k’ipɔp n̻ut̻’am ɔ́ s̺ʷ/

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 3:07 am
by bradrn
Someone’s having fun, I see…

/p t̻ t̻ʲ t̻ʋ t̺ t̺ʲ t̺ʋ k kʲ kʋ q qʋ/ ⟨p d dɜ dʋ t tɜ tʋ k kɜ kʋ q qʋ⟩
/t̻s̻ t̻s̻ʲ t̻s̻ʋ t̺s̺ t̺s̺ʲ t̺s̺ʋ tɕ/ ⟨j jɜ jʋ c cɜ cʋ ć⟩
/p’ t̻’ t̻ʲ’ t̻ʋ’ t̺’ t̺ʲ’ t̺ʋ’ k’ kʲ’ kʋ’ q’ qʋ’/ ⟨ṕ d́ d́ɜ d́ʋ t́ t́ɜ t́ʋ ḱ ḱɜ ḱʋ q́ q́ʋ⟩
/t̻s̻’ t̻s̻ʲ’ t̻s̻ʋ’ t̺s̺’ t̺s̺ʲ’ t̺s̺ʋ’/ ⟨j́ j́ɜ j́ʋ ć ćɜ ćʋ⟩
/s̻ s̻ʲ s̻ʋ s̺ s̺ʲ s̺ʋ ɕ x xʲ xʋ χ χʋ h/ ⟨z zɜ zʋ s sɜ sʋ ś x xɜ xʋ g gʋ h⟩
/m n̻ n̻ʲ n̻ʋ ɲ/ ⟨m n nɜ nʋ ń⟩
/r rʲ rʋ j w/ ⟨r rɜ rʋ y w⟩
/i u e o ɛ ɔ a/ ⟨i u e o ɛ ɔ a⟩
/V̀ V́/ ⟨V V́⟩

/pi s̺ʷ máɲ t̻s̻kʷat̺s̺ʲ’ χɔ́t̻s̻n̻u mat̻s̻om kí kʲ nírʷát̻s̻ s̺ʲt̻ó ɔ́ ɲ t̺ʷ’ kʷt̻ʷí s̻ʲá kí kʷat̺s̺ʲ’ ɕt̻ qɛ́wt̺s̺’it̺s̺waχ ɔ́ k’ipɔp n̻ut̻’am ɔ́ s̺ʷ/

Pi sʋ máń jkʋaćɜ gɔ́jnu majom kí kɜ nírʋaj sɜdó ɔ́ ń t́ʋ kʋdʋí zɜá kí kʋaćɜ śd qɛ́wćicwag ɔ́ ḱipɔp nud́am ɔ́ sʋ.

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 6:32 am
by Darren
/p t̻ t̻ʲ t̻ʷ t̺ t̺ʲ t̺ʷ k kʲ kʷ q qʷ/ <pu tu ti pi t(a) te pe ke ki p(a) k(a) ku>
/t̻s̻ t̻s̻ʲ t̻s̻ʷ t̺s̺ t̺s̺ʲ t̺s̺ʷ tɕ/ <cu ci fi c(a) ce fe hi>
/p’ t̻’ t̻ʲ’ t̻ʷ’ t̺’ t̺ʲ’ t̺ʷ’ k’ kʲ’ kʷ’ q’ qʷ’/ <bu du di bi d(a) de be ge gi b(a) g(a) gu>
/t̻s̻’ t̻s̻ʲ’ t̻s̻ʷ’ t̺s̺’ t̺s̺ʲ’ t̺s̺ʷ’/ <zu zi vi z(a) ze ve>
/s̻ s̻ʲ s̻ʷ s̺ s̺ʲ s̺ʷ ɕ x xʲ xʷ χ χʷ h/ <su si fo s(a) se so he xe xi xo x(a) xu ho>
/m n̻ n̻ʲ n̻ʷ ɲ/ <m(a) n(a) ne no ni>
/r rʲ rʷ j w/ <r(a) re ro ri ru>
/i u e o ɛ ɔ a/ <yi wu ye wo y(a) w(a) h(a)>
/V̀ V́/ <` ´>

/pi s̺ʷ máɲ t̻s̻kʷat̺s̺ʲ’ χɔ́t̻s̻n̻u mat̻s̻om kí kʲ nírʷát̻s̻ s̺ʲt̻ó ɔ́ ɲ t̺ʷ’ kʷt̻ʷí s̻ʲá kí kʷat̺s̺ʲ’ ɕt̻ qɛ́wt̺s̺’it̺s̺waχ ɔ́ k’ipɔp n̻ut̻’am ɔ́ s̺ʷ/
Puyì sò mháni cùphàzi xwácunwù màcuwòm keyí kì nyírohácu sòtuwó wá nì bè pàpiyí sihá keyí phàzi hètu kyáruzyìcruhàx wá geyìpuwàpu nwùduhàm wá sò.


Or something more sane

/p t̻ t̻ʲ t̻ʷ t̺ t̺ʲ t̺ʷ k kʲ kʷ q qʷ/ <p t c tw d đ dw k q kw g gw>
/t̻s̻ t̻s̻ʲ t̻s̻ʷ t̺s̺ t̺s̺ʲ t̺s̺ʷ tɕ/ <ts tx tsw dz dj dzw tś>
/p’ t̻’ t̻ʲ’ t̻ʷ’ t̺’ t̺ʲ’ t̺ʷ’ k’ kʲ’ kʷ’ q’ qʷ’/ <p' t' c' tw' d' đ' dw' k' q' kw' g' gw'>
/t̻s̻’ t̻s̻ʲ’ t̻s̻ʷ’ t̺s̺’ t̺s̺ʲ’ t̺s̺ʷ’/ <s' x' sw' z' j' zw'>
/s̻ s̻ʲ s̻ʷ s̺ s̺ʲ s̺ʷ ɕ x xʲ xʷ χ χʷ h/ <s x sw z j zw ś x ħ xw ğ ğw h>
/m n̻ n̻ʲ n̻ʷ ɲ/ <m n ń nw ñ>
/r rʲ rʷ j w/ <r ŕ rw y v>
/i u e o ɛ ɔ a/ <i u e o ɛ ɔ a>
/V̀ V́/ <V V́>
/C̩/ <Cı>

Pi zwı máñ tsıkwaj' ğɔ́tsnu matsom kí qı nírwáts jıtó ɔ́ ñı dwı kwıtwí xá kí kwax' śıt gɛ́wz'idzvağ ɔ́ k'ipɔp nut'am ɔ́ zwı.

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:07 am
by Travis B.
/p t̻ t̻ʲ t̻ʷ t̺ t̺ʲ t̺ʷ k kʲ kʷ q qʷ/ <p t tj tw d dj dw k kj kw q qw>
/t̻s̻ t̻s̻ʲ t̻s̻ʷ t̺s̺ t̺s̺ʲ t̺s̺ʷ tɕ/ <ts tsj tsw dz dzj dzw tc>
/p’ t̻’ t̻ʲ’ t̻ʷ’ t̺’ t̺ʲ’ t̺ʷ’ k’ kʲ’ kʷ’ q’ qʷ’/ <p' t' tj' tw' d' dj' dw' k' kj' kw' q' qw'>
/t̻s̻’ t̻s̻ʲ’ t̻s̻ʷ’ t̺s̺’ t̺s̺ʲ’ t̺s̺ʷ’/ <ts' tsj' tsw' dz' dzj' dzw'>
/s̻ s̻ʲ s̻ʷ s̺ s̺ʲ s̺ʷ ɕ x xʲ xʷ χ χʷ h/ <s sj sw z zj zw c x xj xw g gw h>
/m n̻ n̻ʲ n̻ʷ ɲ/ <m n nj nw ng>
/r rʲ rʷ j w/ <r rj rw y w>
/i u e o ɛ ɔ a/ <i u e o ea oa a>
/V̀ V́/ (accented vowels are <ii uu ei ou ee oo aa>)

(C)V(C) or (C)C syllables; all consonants can be syllabic. Essentially a monosyllable language with some mild agglutination.

/pi s̺ʷ máɲ t̻s̻kʷat̺s̺ʲ’ χɔ́t̻s̻n̻u mat̻s̻om kí kʲ nírʷát̻s̻ s̺ʲt̻ó ɔ́ ɲ t̺ʷ’ kʷt̻ʷí s̻ʲá kí kʷat̺s̺ʲ’ ɕt̻ qɛ́wt̺s̺’it̺s̺waχ ɔ́ k’ipɔp n̻ut̻’am ɔ́ s̺ʷ/
Pi zw maang tskwadzj' gootsnu matsom kii kj miirwaats zjtou oo ng dw' kwtwii sjaa kii kwadzj' ct qeewdz'idzwag oo k'ipoap nut'am oo zw.

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:03 pm
by Karch
/p t̻ t̻ʲ t̻ʷ t̺ t̺ʲ t̺ʷ k kʲ kʷ q qʷ/ <p t ty tw th thy thw k ky kw q qw>
/t̻s̻ t̻s̻ʲ t̻s̻ʷ t̺s̺ t̺s̺ʲ t̺s̺ʷ tɕ/ < <c cy cw ch chy chw j>
/p’ t̻’ t̻ʲ’ t̻ʷ’ t̺’ t̺ʲ’ t̺ʷ’ k’ kʲ’ kʷ’ q’ qʷ’/ <p' t' ty' tw' th thy' thw' k' ky' kw' q' qw'>
/t̻s̻’ t̻s̻ʲ’ t̻s̻ʷ’ t̺s̺’ t̺s̺ʲ’ t̺s̺ʷ’/ <c' cy' cw' ch' chy' chw' j>
/s̻ s̻ʲ s̻ʷ s̺ s̺ʲ s̺ʷ ɕ x xʲ xʷ χ χʷ h/ <s sy sw sh shy shw x h hy hw g gw h'>
/m n̻ n̻ʲ n̻ʷ ɲ/ <m n ny nw ng>
/r rʲ rʷ j w/ <r ry rw y w>
/i u e o ɛ ɔ a/ <i u e o ae ao a>
/V̀ V́/ <a ah>

/pi s̺ʷ máɲ t̻s̻kʷat̺s̺ʲ’ χɔ́t̻s̻n̻u mat̻s̻om kí kʲ nírʷát̻s̻ s̺ʲt̻ó ɔ́ ɲ t̺ʷ’ kʷt̻ʷí s̻ʲá kí kʷat̺s̺ʲ’ ɕt̻ qɛ́wt̺s̺’it̺s̺waχ ɔ́ k’ipɔp n̻ut̻’am ɔ́ s̺ʷ/

Pi shw mahng ckwachy' gaohcnu macom kih ky nihrwahc shytoh aoh ng thw' kwtwih syah kih kwachy' xt qaehwch'ichwag aoh k'ipaop nut'am aoh shw.

or:

/p t̻ t̻ʲ t̻ʷ t̺ t̺ʲ t̺ʷ k kʲ kʷ q qʷ/ <p t th t' d dh d' k kh k' q q'>
/t̻s̻ t̻s̻ʲ t̻s̻ʷ t̺s̺ t̺s̺ʲ t̺s̺ʷ tɕ/ <c ch c' dc dch dc' j>
/p’ t̻’ t̻ʲ’ t̻ʷ’ t̺’ t̺ʲ’ t̺ʷ’ k’ kʲ’ kʷ’ q’ qʷ’/ <px tx thx tx' dx dhx dx' kx khx kx' qx qx'>
/t̻s̻’ t̻s̻ʲ’ t̻s̻ʷ’ t̺s̺’ t̺s̺ʲ’ t̺s̺ʷ’/ <cx chx cx' dcx dchx dcx'>
/s̻ s̻ʲ s̻ʷ s̺ s̺ʲ s̺ʷ ɕ x xʲ xʷ χ χʷ h/ <s sh s' z zh z' sy g gh g' v v' h>
/m n̻ n̻ʲ n̻ʷ ɲ/ <m n nh n' ny>
/r rʲ rʷ j w/ <r rh r' y w>
/i u e o ɛ ɔ a/ <i u ei ou e o a>
/V̀ V́/ <a â>

/pi s̺ʷ máɲ t̻s̻kʷat̺s̺ʲ’ χɔ́t̻s̻n̻u mat̻s̻om kí kʲ nírʷát̻s̻ s̺ʲt̻ó ɔ́ ɲ t̺ʷ’ kʷt̻ʷí s̻ʲá kí kʷat̺s̺ʲ’ ɕt̻ qɛ́wt̺s̺’it̺s̺waχ ɔ́ k’ipɔp n̻ut̻’am ɔ́ s̺ʷ/

Pi z' mâny ck'adchx gocnu macoum kî kh nîr'âc zhtôu ô ny dx' k't'î shâ kî khadchx syt qêwdcxidcwag ô kxipop nutxam oh z'.

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:25 pm
by Nortaneous
/p t̻ t̻ʲ t̻ʷ t̺ t̺ʲ t̺ʷ k kʲ kʷ q qʷ/ <p d di du t ti tu k ki ku q qu>
/t̻s̻ t̻s̻ʲ t̻s̻ʷ t̺s̺ t̺s̺ʲ t̺s̺ʷ tɕ/ <ç çi çu c ci cu cë>
/p’ t̻’ t̻ʲ’ t̻ʷ’ t̺’ t̺ʲ’ t̺ʷ’ k’ kʲ’ kʷ’ q’ qʷ’/ <pä...> (<pa...> before <î û> or a vowel with a tone marker)
/t̻s̻’ t̻s̻ʲ’ t̻s̻ʷ’ t̺s̺’ t̺s̺ʲ’ t̺s̺ʷ’/ <ç’...>
/s̻ s̻ʲ s̻ʷ s̺ s̺ʲ s̺ʷ ɕ x xʲ xʷ χ χʷ h/ <z zi zu s si su së x xi xu gh ghu h>
/m n̻ n̻ʲ n̻ʷ ɲ/ <m n ni nu në>
/r rʲ rʷ j w/ <r ri ru y v>
/i u e o ɛ ɔ a/ <î û e o ai au â>
/V̀ V́/ <a á>

Pî su máñ çkuâcï gháuçnû mâçom kí ki níruáç sidó áu në t’ü kuduí ziá kí kuâcï sëd qáivcaîcvagh áu kaîpaup nûtäâm áu su.

CP437

/p t̻ t̻ʲ t̻ʷ t̺ t̺ʲ t̺ʷ k kʲ kʷ q qʷ/ <p d di du t ti tu k ki qu q qv>
/t̻s̻ t̻s̻ʲ t̻s̻ʷ t̺s̺ t̺s̺ʲ t̺s̺ʷ tɕ/ <ç çi çu c ci cu cÿ>
/p’ t̻’ t̻ʲ’ t̻ʷ’ t̺’ t̺ʲ’ t̺ʷ’ k’ kʲ’ kʷ’ q’ qʷ’/ <¶ δ... π... ¿... φ...>
/t̻s̻’ t̻s̻ʲ’ t̻s̻ʷ’ t̺s̺’ t̺s̺ʲ’ t̺s̺ʷ’/ <σ... ß...>
/s̻ s̻ʲ s̻ʷ s̺ s̺ʲ s̺ʷ ɕ x xʲ xʷ χ χʷ h/ <s si su § §i §u §ÿ x xi xu g gu h>
/m n̻ n̻ʲ n̻ʷ ɲ/ <m n ni nu nÿ>
/r rʲ rʷ j w/ <r ri ru y w>
/i u e o ɛ ɔ a ʷa/ <î û e o æ/ë ô/ö a â/ä>
/V̀ V́/ <a á>
/kʷa Ckʷa/ <qua kâ>

Pî §u máÿn çkâßi ghöçnû maçom kí ki níräç §idó aó nÿ πu quduí siá kí quaßi §ÿd qëwßîcwag ö ¿îpôp nûδam ö §u.

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:52 am
by ophois
/p t̻ t̻ʲ t̻ʷ t̺ t̺ʲ t̺ʷ k kʲ kʷ q qʷ/ <p t ty tw d dy dw k ky kw q qw>
/t̻s̻ t̻s̻ʲ t̻s̻ʷ t̺s̺ t̺s̺ʲ t̺s̺ʷ tɕ/ <tz tzy tzw ds dsy dsw tsh>
/p’ t̻’ t̻ʲ’ t̻ʷ’ t̺’ t̺ʲ’ t̺ʷ’ k’ kʲ’ kʷ’ q’ qʷ’/ <ph th thy thw dh dhy dhw kh khy khw qh qhw>
/t̻s̻’ t̻s̻ʲ’ t̻s̻ʷ’ t̺s̺’ t̺s̺ʲ’ t̺s̺ʷ’/ <tzh tzhy tzhw dsh dshy dshw>
/s̻ s̻ʲ s̻ʷ s̺ s̺ʲ s̺ʷ ɕ x xʲ xʷ χ χʷ h/ <z zy zw s sy sw sh g gy gw x xw f>
/m n̻ n̻ʲ n̻ʷ ɲ/ <m n ny nw nh>
/r rʲ rʷ j w/ <r ry rw j v>
/i u e o ɛ ɔ a/ <i u e o æ c a>
/V̀ V́/ <a á>

(C)V(C) or (C)C syllables; all consonants can be syllabic. Essentially a monosyllable language with some mild agglutination.

/pi s̺ʷ máɲ t̻s̻kʷat̺s̺ʲ’ χɔ́t̻s̻n̻u mat̻s̻om kí kʲ nírʷát̻s̻ s̺ʲt̻ó ɔ́ ɲ t̺ʷ’ kʷt̻ʷí s̻ʲá kí kʷat̺s̺ʲ’ ɕt̻ qɛ́wt̺s̺’it̺s̺waχ ɔ́ k’ipɔp n̻ut̻’am ɔ́ s̺ʷ/
<Pi sw mánh tzkwadshy xćtznu matzom kí ky nírwátz sytó ć nh dhw kwtwí zyá kí kwadshy sht qǽvdshidsvax ć khipcp nutham ć sw.>

/h ɛ ɔ V̀ V́/ <fh eh oh a af>

<Pi sw mafnh tzkwadshy xohftznu matzom kif ky nifrwaftz sytof ohf nh dhw kwtwif zyaf kif kwadshy sht qehfvdshidsvax ohf khipohp nutham ohf sw.>

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 4:11 am
by ophois
/ruskij jazik/ <Ruszkyy yazyk>

/m mʲ n nʲ/ <m m(j) n n(j)>
/p pʲ t tʲ k/ <p p(j) t t(j) k>
/b bʲ d dʲ ɡ/ <b b(j) d d(j) g>
/ts tɕ/ <cz č>
/f fʲ s sʲ ʂ ɕ x/ <f f(j) sz s(j) s š h>
/v vʲ z zʲ ʐ/ <v v(j) z z(j) zs>
/r rʲ l lʲ/ <r r(j) l l(j)>
/j/ <y>

<-j> not written before /i/

final obstruents are always voiceless

/a e i o u [ɨ]/ <a e i o u y>

Sample text:

/sudʲba jivɡenʲija xranʲila | spʲirva madam za nʲim xadʲila | patom mʲisʲjo jijo smʲinʲil | rʲibʲonak bil rʲizov no mʲil | mʲisʲjo lʲabe frantsus uboɡaj | ʂtop nʲi izmutɕilasʲ dʲitʲa | utɕil jivo fsʲimu ʂutʲa | nʲi dakutɕal maralʲju stroɡaj | slʲixka za ʂalastʲi branʲil | i v lʲetnʲij sat ɡulʲatʲ vadʲil/ <Szudjba yivgeniya hranila. Szpirva madam za nim hadila. Patom misjyo yiyo szminil. Ribjonak byl rizov no mil. Misjyo ljabe franczusz ubogay. Stop ni izmučilasj ditja. Učil yivo fsimu sutja. Ni dakučal maralju sztrogay. Szlihka za salaszti branil. I v ljetniy szat guljatj vadil.>

Something vaguely Papuan, anyone? (Note I'm phone-typing so a weird XSampa/IPA combo will have to do)

/m n ɲ ŋ/
/p b t d tS dZ k g ?/
/p\ s S x h/
/l 4 j w/

/a e ɛ i o ɔ u/
/aj aw ej ew ɛj ɛw iw oj ow ɔj ɔw uj/

Three tones: low, high, and mid. (C)(C)V(C) syllable structure where initial clusters are limited to non-glide + glide, or stop or /p\ s/ + liquid. Coda consonants are limited to /m n ŋ p t k ? s x l 4/ and tones are not contrastive in syllables ending with stops. The glottal stop cannot appear as a part of an initial cluster or after a consonant.

Sample text, means nothing:
/xu˥ɲu˩ im˥tʃji˥sluŋ˧ ɾwɔs˩ ŋejŋ˧ u˧ glɔ˥ljaw˧pax˧ || gwɛw˥hɔ˩bɔx˩ tlax˩ djin˧ | hwu˩ kown˧gɛn˥sɾɛ˥ ʔek˧ti˩ pa˩ sjil˩ŋje˧ ŋe˩joɾ˥ || mjo˩njil˩ ɛwɾ˩ɾa˧wi˩/

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 6:24 am
by Darren
/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n z v>
/p b t d tʃ dʒ k g ʔ/ <p b t~d d c j k g e~t> (coda /t ʔ/ <d t>)
/ɸ s ʃ x h/ <f s x q h>
/l ɾ j w/ <l r y w>

/a e ɛ i o ɔ u/ <a ia ai i o oa u>
/aj aw ej ew ɛj ɛw iw oj ow ɔj ɔw uj/ <ae ao ii au ie io iu oi ou oe ua ui>

/˥ ˧ ˩/ <ah a aw>

/xu˥ɲu˩ im˥tʃji˥sluŋ˧ ɾwɔs˩ ŋejŋ˧ u˧ glɔ˥ljaw˧pax˧ || gwɛw˥hɔ˩bɔx˩ tlax˩ djin˧ | hwu˩ kown˧gɛn˥sɾɛ˥ ʔek˧ti˩ pa˩ sjil˩ŋje˧ ŋe˩joɾ˥ || mjo˩njil˩ ɛwɾ˩ɾa˧wi˩/
Quhzuw ihmcyihsluv rwoaws viiv u gloahlyaopaq. Gwaihwhoawboawq tlawq dyin, hwuw koungaihnsraih eiaktiw paw syiwlvyia viawyohr. Myownyiwl iewrrawiw.

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 12:02 am
by ophois
ophois wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 4:11 am Something vaguely Papuan, anyone? (Note I'm phone-typing so a weird XSampa/IPA combo will have to do)

/m n ɲ ŋ/
/p b t d tS dZ k g ?/
/p\ s S x h/
/l 4 j w/

/a e ɛ i o ɔ u/
/aj aw ej ew ɛj ɛw iw oj ow ɔj ɔw uj/

Three tones: low, high, and mid. (C)(C)V(C) syllable structure where initial clusters are limited to non-glide + glide, or stop or /p\ s/ + liquid. Coda consonants are limited to /m n ŋ p t k ? s x l 4/ and tones are not contrastive in syllables ending with stops. The glottal stop cannot appear as a part of an initial cluster or after a consonant.

Sample text, means nothing:
/xu˥ɲu˩ im˥tʃji˥sluŋ˧ ɾwɔs˩ ŋejŋ˧ u˧ glɔ˥ljaw˧pax˧ || gwɛw˥hɔ˩bɔx˩ tlax˩ djin˧ | hwu˩ kown˧gɛn˥sɾɛ˥ ʔek˧ti˩ pa˩ sjil˩ŋje˧ ŋe˩joɾ˥ || mjo˩njil˩ ɛwɾ˩ɾa˧wi˩/
/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n nh ng>
/p b t d tS dZ k g ?/ <p b t d ch j k g h>
/p\ s S x h/ <f s sh kh gh>
/l 4 j w/ <l r y w>

/ng/ <n'g>

/a e ɛ i o ɔ u/ <a e x i o c u>
/aj aw ej ew ɛj ɛw iw oj ow ɔj ɔw uj/ <ai au ei eu xi xu iu oi ou ci cu ui>

/V˩ V˧ V˥/ <v- 0 q->

/xu˥ɲu˩ im˥tʃji˥sluŋ˧ ɾwɔs˩ ŋejŋ˧ u˧ glɔ˥ljaw˧pax˧ || gwɛw˥hɔ˩bɔx˩ tlax˩ djin˧ | hwu˩ kown˧gɛn˥sɾɛ˥ ʔek˧ti˩ pa˩ sjil˩ŋje˧ ŋe˩joɾ˥ || mjo˩njil˩ ɛwɾ˩ɾa˧wi˩/
<Qkhuvnhu qimqchyislung vrwcs ngeing u qglclyaupakh. Qgwxuvghcvbckh vtlakh dyin, vghwu kounqgxnqsrx hekvti vpa vsyilngye vngeqyor. Vmyovnyil vxurravwi.>

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 7:02 am
by Karch
/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n ny ng>
/p b t d tʃ dʒ k g ʔ/ <p b t d ch j k g '>
/ɸ s ʃ x h/ <f s sh x h>
/l ɾ j w/ <l r y w>

/a e ɛ i o ɔ u/ <a e ä i o ö u>
/aj aw ej ew ɛj ɛw iw oj ow ɔj ɔw uj/ <ai au ei eu äi äu iu oi ou öi öu ui>

Three tones: low, high, and mid. <à a á> <ȁ â>
/Cj Cw/ <Ci Cu>, /Cji Cwu/ <C'i C'u>

/xu˥ɲu˩ im˥tʃji˥sluŋ˧ ɾwɔs˩ ŋejŋ˧ u˧ glɔ˥ljaw˧pax˧ || gwɛw˥hɔ˩bɔx˩ tlax˩ djin˧ | hwu˩ kown˧gɛn˥sɾɛ˥ ʔek˧ti˩ pa˩ sjil˩ŋje˧ ŋe˩joɾ˥ || mjo˩njil˩ ɛwɾ˩ɾa˧wi˩/

Xúnyù ímch'íslung ruȍs ngeing u glôliaupax. Guâuhȍbȍx tlàx d'in, h'ù koungânsrâ 'ektì pà s'ìlngie ngèyór. Miòn'ìl ȁurrawì.

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 7:48 pm
by Nortaneous
/m mʲ n nʲ/ <m m n ń>
/p pʲ t tʲ k/ <p p t ć k>
/b bʲ d dʲ ɡ/ <b b d dź g>
/ts tɕ/ <c cz>
/f fʲ s sʲ ʂ ɕ x/ <f f s ś š sz ch>
/v vʲ z zʲ ʐ/ <v v z ź ž>
/r rʲ l lʲ/ <r rz ł l>
/j/ <j>

/a e ɨ o u/ <a ë y o u>
/ʲa ʲe ʲi ji ij ʲo ʲu/ <ia e i ï ÿ io iu>

Sample text:

Sudźba Ïvghenija chraniła:
Spirva Madam za nim chadiła,
Patom Miśjo ïjo sminił.
Ribionak był rizov, no mił.
Miśjo Labë, francus ubogaj,
Štop ni izmucziłas ditia,
Ucził ivo fsimu šutia,
Ni dakuczał maralju strogaj,
Slichka za šalasci branił
I v letnÿ sat gulać vadił.


or something based on Kodinsky's proposal but less silly

/m mʲ n nʲ/ <m m n n>
/p pʲ t tʲ k/ <p p t t c/k>
/b bʲ d dʲ ɡ/ <b b d d g/gh>
/ts tɕ/ <cz c/ç>
/f fʲ s sʲ ʂ ɕ x/ <f f s s sz sc(i) x>
/v vʲ z zʲ ʐ/ <v v z z g(i)>
/r rʲ l lʲ/ <r r l l>
/j/ <i>

/a e ɨ o u/ <a he hi o u>
/ʲa ʲe ʲi ij ʲo ʲu/ <ea e i/e y é iu>
/ʲjV ajC/ <í æ>

Sudhba Evgenia xranila:
Sperva Madame za nim xadila,
Patom Monsieur eé smenil.
Rebénac bhil rezov, no mil.
Monsieur l'Abbé, franczuz ubogæ,
Sztob ne izmucilash ditea,
Ucil evo vsemu szutea,
Ni dacuceal maralíu strogæ,
Slexca za szalasti branil
I v letny sat guleath vadil.


Одна́жды се́верный ве́тер и со́лнце поспо́рили, кто из них сильне́е. Как раз в э́то вре́мя они́ заме́тили заку́танного в плащ пу́тника, кото́рый шёл по доро́ге, и реши́ли, что тот из них бу́дет счита́ться са́мым сильны́м, кому́ ра́ньше уда́стся заста́вить пу́тника снять плащ. Тут се́верный ве́тер при́нялся дуть изо всех сил; но чем сильне́е он дул, тем сильне́е ку́тался пу́тник в свой плащ, так что в конце́ концо́в се́верный ве́тер до́лжен был отказа́ться от свое́й зате́и. Тогда́ засия́ло со́лнышко, пу́тник понемно́гу отогре́лся и вско́ре снял свой плащ. Таки́м о́бразом, се́верный ве́тер вы́нужден был призна́ть, что со́лнце сильне́е его́.
Adnághdhe severny veter y solntze pasporele, cto ez nix selhnéy. Cac raz v'heta vremea ani zametele zacutannava v'plasç putneca, catory szol pa daroghe, y reszile, çto tot iz nix budet scetátza samhem selhnhim, camú ranhsze udástza zastavit putneca sneath plasç. Tut severny veter prinelsea duth eza vsex sil; no cem selhnéy on dul, tem selhnéy cutalsea puthnec v'svoi plasç, tac çto v'cantzé cantzov severny veter dolgen bil atcazátza at svaéi zatéy. Tagdá zaseiála solnhiszca, puthnec panemnogu atagrélsea y vscore sneal svoi plasç. Tachim obrazam, severny veter vhinughden bhil preznath, çto solntse selhnéy evo.

or

/m mʲ n nʲ/ <m m n n>
/p pʲ t tʲ k/ <p p t t c/ch>
/b bʲ d dʲ ɡ/ <b b d d g/gh>
/ts tɕ/ <ț c/ci>
/f fʲ s sʲ ʂ ɕ x/ <f f s s ș sc(i/h) k>
/v vʲ z zʲ ʐ/ <v v z z g(i)>
/r rʲ l lʲ/ <r r l l>
/j/ <i>

/a e ɨ o u/ <a ê â o u>
/ʲa ʲe ʲi ɨj ij ʲo ʲu/ <ea e î/e y ii eo iu>
/ʲ/ <i>

Adnagidâ severny veter î solnțe pasporele, cto ez nik selineie. Cac raz v êta vremea anii zametele zacutannava v plasch putneca, catory șol pa daroghe, i reșâle, șto tot iz nik budet scetáțea samâm selinâm, camu ranișe udasțea zastavîti putneca sneati plasci, tac șto v canțé canțov severny veter dolgen bâl otcazáțea at svaiei zateii. Tagdá zaseiála solnâșca, putnec panemnogu atagrélsea î vscore sneal svoi plasci. Tachîm obrazam, severny veter vânugiden bâl preznati, șto solnțe selineie evo.

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 11:34 pm
by Knit Tie
/søɾaːjiʃa deⁿwaː˥/

/pʰ tʰ tʃʰ kʰ/
/b~p~m d~t~ɾ~n~l dʒ~tʃ~ɲ ɡ~k~ŋ ʔ/ - non-aspirated plosives are nasal before nasal vowels and are otherwise in free variation between voiced and tenius (and [ɾ,l] for the alveolar one). /ʔ/ can be analysed as null onlset
/f s ʃ ɣ h/ - /s/ is voiced intervocalically
/w j/

/a e i o u y ø ɤ/ - each vowel can be long and/or nasal and/or high tone

CV syllable structure

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 11:42 pm
by bradrn
/søɾaːjiʃa deⁿwaː˥/ Södaayisha newáá

/pʰ tʰ tʃʰ kʰ/ ⟨p t c k⟩
/b~p~m d~t~ɾ~n~l dʒ~tʃ~ɲ ɡ~k~ŋ ʔ/ ⟨b~m d~n j g ∅⟩
/f s ʃ ɣ h/ ⟨f s sh gh h⟩
/w j/ ⟨w y⟩

/a e i o u y ø ɤ/ ⟨a e i o u ü ö ë⟩
/Vː/ ⟨VV⟩
/Vⁿ/ ⟨V⟩ if preceded by one of ⟨m n⟩, ⟨nV⟩ otherwise
/a˥ e˥ i˥ o˥ u˥ y˥ ø˥ ɤ˥/ ⟨á é í ó ú üˊ öˊ ëˊ⟩