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Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 8:16 am
by bradrn
Ka mat kama athoes kēngēt ma nēvēt kama mbangbap ama kēm, kēm, kēm, diva tima sēmēt kama boding. Ka mat avama anguthes iva kē su tha diva mithu thi sangar ka lotu pēt ka mbangbap. Boding natha iva sa chule dē thi katiket pēkama mbangbap. Da naruer mamēr mamēr dē chama katiketkēna ma nangista. Sa chule sa cha mēt kama thoes paivathe diva ta that kama mēthamon ma ve ia that kama Morka ava thēktek diva thi bang vēt kama bangbap. Ti sangar ka thēktēk nasothatha.
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 9:43 am
by Karch
Mali (Baining).
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:05 am
by bradrn
Will I ever find a language which isn’t guessed immediately? Perhaps next time I’ll just pick one at random. It can’t possibly be worse than my current method, which is to look through my reference grammars until I find a sufficiently obscure text. Evidently I am terrible at picking sufficiently obscure texts.
EDIT: But now that I think of it, I suppose Mali wasn’t such a good choice in the first place. It’s obscure, but incredibly distinctive. Next time I’ll pick a language which looks exactly like every one of its neighb— no, wait, I tried that with Alto Perené and it didn’t work either. Never mind.
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:39 am
by Karch
Mali is obscure, but once you've seen it it's pretty much ingrained in your head since it looks very distinctive.
Here's a new sample:
məŋkaŋ əyá məsíl tɕimé ŋàí tsəmtsə̀l sɯ̀nrətìŋ, lè té itá ráiŋ. tsā rəmàŋ məŋkāŋ əyá nɯ rɯŋdāŋ dù ā ədòŋ ətɕī. ədòŋ ətɕi dudùí gaʔ duŋkɯ̀r taʔ zəŋ zə́ŋsì i yoŋ dú mān wà. məme tè té dù wà. yā kám səí tɕi gúŋ ŋám wā dʑìrətwà. "a dʑà pā pə̀n iwò ləíe?" āl wà. "a muʔlàŋ gweʔ lə́m wà muʔ əglá lə́m wà dəkàŋ mási lə̀m dùŋ ā ie" āl wà. "dʑàé ŋà gɯ máŋ sīŋīŋó," wā wà.
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:39 am
by Nortaneous
Rawang
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:49 am
by Karch
yeah it's Rawang (the Rvmøl dialect to be precise) - the paper I took this from had this story transcribed both in the orthography and in IPA - I decided to use the IPA transcription, since the orthography is very distinctive, but I knew either you or dendana would guess it immediately.
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 12:37 pm
by Nortaneous
lol I wrote something about how it might be Rvmøl because I wasn't sure whether the standard had /ts/, but edited it out in case it did
Drukanen giʔay du sobu lok ming loge moy aruaygi; gialpon sobuke boʔptongu luʔru. Sunru du ar'i lok digin etur zelu, drukanen sot druka ordanuʔ, boʔy tsunt'ia kuntur enu. Ming montro nedaru du druka aʔbilu nekuʔ borbutong sunru du, boyragidi ar'i lok digin etur zelu. Laʔki, drukadi babeyʔ, gialpon mingto boʔy bon zontu druka; ening etur amnaʔy borbutongnuʔ sunru zelu. Ming boʔptongtay boyragidi etur sunru drukadi, d'inek gorzon daru daru du boyragidi etur leʔnu zumu daʔn uiʔ. Gut'gut'eyʔ du, leʔnu zuu daʔn, uiʔ daʔn, arre tsunt'ia gialpon etur ming montro bole kula nedaru nekuruʔ, mitaʔnnen ening etur leʔnu zumu obay luʔray.
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:57 pm
by Karch
Munda?
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:05 pm
by Nortaneous
yes
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:06 pm
by Karch
All the Munda languages except Gta' look pretty much the same, so I'll take a shot in the dark - Remo?
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 8:02 pm
by Nortaneous
no
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 8:23 pm
by Karch
since all the Munda languages look pretty much the same I decided to skim through Anderson and Zide's "The Munda Languages", opened the pdf halfway through and found a surprisingly long section on Gorum, which not only looked a lot like the example, but also seems to have shifted its palatal stops to /s/ and /z/. is it Gorum?
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 8:29 pm
by Nortaneous
yes
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:36 pm
by Karch
Vaaw langte oun rungbungpaw tuh ccungccaw balyn laeze a leehua. Laephi kyate oun thuapaw tuh laephi uccaw thuaza laephi bya konglang nynh a ho, thuasalama vaaw langte oun thuapaw nynh tuh pawpaw tungvaw balyn a um. Amaw nynh a muipaw te a thaepaw ho salazema hum nynh sangma a phunghopaw tuh pawm khyh hae. Thuasalama hum nynh zema a phunghopaw a pawmtu nynh tuh a pawmpaw liate Pachia tuh ahmepaw nynh athua ci paw kha a tyn sa.
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:07 pm
by Nortaneous
either Kuki-Chin-Naga or Brahmaputran?
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:46 am
by Karch
Kuki-Chin-Naga.
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:36 am
by bradrn
Well, it looks like no-one else is responding, so let me take a shot in the dark… Angami–Pochuri?
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:39 am
by Karch
Nope.
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:42 am
by bradrn
Is it Kuki–Chin then?
Also, is it tonal? If so, are the tones transcribed in the text?
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:45 am
by Karch
It's indeed Kuki-Chin and it's indeed tonal, but the orthography doesn't mark the tones.