Natural languages and linguistics
bradrn
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by bradrn » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:20 am
Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑ Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:08 am
I would love to see how that's realised phonetically.
I’m assuming ⟨z w⟩ are both vowels.
I might as well take a guess while I’m posting: Austronesian? Oceanic?
Rounin Ryuuji
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by Rounin Ryuuji » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:26 am
I believe the shifting of [ɨ] > [s~z] is attested in Miyakoan (one of the oddest sound changes I've encountered, at least in my mind), so it the "z" could also be a syllabic consonant; I also suspect the "j" may take on a vocalic realisation.
Karch
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by Karch » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:37 am
Neither Austronesian nor Oceanic, and no, I don't know the pronunciation of <z>, <w> is however indeed a vowel.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
Nortaneous
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by Nortaneous » Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:01 pm
spoken in India and/or Bangladesh?
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
Karch
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by Karch » Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:31 pm
Nortaneous wrote: ↑ Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:01 pm
spoken in India and/or Bangladesh?
India.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
Vijay
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by Vijay » Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:33 pm
Is it a Munda language?
Karch
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by Karch » Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:53 pm
yes
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
Nortaneous
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by Nortaneous » Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:36 pm
Sora?
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
Karch
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by Karch » Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:54 pm
Sora.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
Nortaneous
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by Nortaneous » Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:37 pm
Na qwbe fe ra zeë biring wo wama nachang o nachang chong, moecheë cha rabah wo be, wo cha rabah é be na ki ne: katukung yi na na‐mungji ning dureë. Wo zoh nade tingchingme ra: katukung nade raboche, ning kira eqwbo, nachang channema kanna‐yire, awa qwbeqwbe nang é ra, nachang zohma na: Fe nachang ra nade tingching, ning kira churung, nachang channema ngni ra; awa dundundi nang é ra, nachang a tohma.
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
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by Pabappa » Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:43 pm
Well, it's got a CV(n) syllable structure, /ŋ/ as the realization of the coda nasal before a pause (and perhaps sometimes even before a consonant), an odd looking cluster that Im going to assume is /kpʷ/, and is probably missing all of /s l p g/.
I can't really get much information out of the vowels. But consonants are my only real strong point anyway ....so Im going to guess this is somewhere in Melanesia, and if I must guess something more specific (unless this takes away someone else's guess, in which case, please ignore this), I choose the Koro language of Vanuatu.
Nortaneous
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by Nortaneous » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:08 pm
Pabappa wrote: ↑ Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:43 pm
I choose the Koro language of Vanuatu.
it's not Koro nor is it Melanesian
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
Karch
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by Karch » Mon Jul 26, 2021 3:42 am
Damn. Spoken in Africa?
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
Nortaneous
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by Nortaneous » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:48 pm
Karch wrote: ↑ Mon Jul 26, 2021 3:42 am
Damn. Spoken in Africa?
damn. yes
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
Karch
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by Karch » Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:07 am
Bantoid?
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
Nortaneous
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by Nortaneous » Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:14 pm
Karch wrote: ↑ Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:07 am Bantoid?
no
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
Karch
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by Karch » Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:40 pm
Spoken in Nigeria?
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
Nortaneous
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by Nortaneous » Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:33 pm
Karch wrote: ↑ Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:40 pm
Spoken in Nigeria?
no
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
Vijay
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by Vijay » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:47 pm
Is it extinct?
Nortaneous
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by Nortaneous » Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:06 pm
Vijay wrote: ↑ Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:47 pm Is it extinct?
no
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.