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Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:23 am
by masako
muyanatinko te tolokin ma kistuaton ipampa pa ta sahya
The creation myth of Tolkien and Christianity differs greatly, even though you are correct.
ya koya
My apologies.
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:36 am
by bradrn
Ŋay nii daw 
It’s fine
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:42 am
by masako
ehe nye itla eta 'naka nokua muyaye' te 'kua'ota' omomya ka
However, why does "She created all that ever existed." make you think of "Eru Ilúvatar (All-father)"?
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:44 am
by bradrn
masako wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:42 am
ehe nye itla eta 'naka nokua muyaye' te 'kua'ota' omomya ka
However, why does "
She created all that ever existed." make you think of "
Eru Ilúvatar (All-father)"?
Um, because I didn’t notice the pronouns?
(I’m feeling a bit too tired to translate anything more complex than ‘It’s fine’ right now… I think it’s probably time for me to go!
)
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:54 am
by masako
onyo unyan muya
Study makes for understanding.
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:30 am
by jal
bradrn wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:54 amI read LotR so long ago that I can barely even remember much of the plot.)
"Loh a dem ring" tel bo pahti a man-dem, dwohf an elf pon johni fi banis magik ring, pwaya bat majik man kac im.
"Lord of the rings" is about a group of men, a dwarf and an elf on a journey to make a magic ring disappear, before an evil wizzard gets it.
JAL
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:32 am
by quinterbeck
masako wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:54 am
onyo unyan muya
Study makes for understanding.
Yoer mo hou urimu nu eumgi
The way to understanding goes through confusion
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:18 pm
by masako
quinterbeck wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:32 am
masako wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:54 am
onyo unyan muya
Study makes for understanding.
Yoer mo hou urimu nu eumgi
The way to understanding goes through confusion
teyelon namyo tananke
Our statements do not conflict.
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:42 pm
by bradrn
jal wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:30 am
bradrn wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:54 amI read LotR so long ago that I can barely even remember much of the plot.)
"Loh a dem ring" tel bo pahti a man-dem, dwohf an elf pon johni fi banis magik ring, pwaya bat majik man kac im.
"Lord of the rings" is about a group of men, a dwarf and an elf on a journey to make a magic ring disappear, before an evil wizzard gets it.
JAL
Tsek nii besiwe lheybuq!
/t͡səʔ niː bəˈsiwə ˈɬəjbuʔ/
that.VIS FOC 1s=have knowledge
That much I know!
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:02 pm
by masako
to na kuayomayemua enahue pakon mulapa ka
manner 1s all-day-PST-COM P.1s-LOC new.thing-ACC begin-POT Q
“How can I begin anything new with all of yesterday in me?”
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:15 pm
by quinterbeck
masako wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:18 pm
teyelon namyo tananke
Our statements do not conflict.
Mou n'adado gei?? Don don don!!
Or do they?? Dun dun dun!!
I wasn't disagreeing, I just wanted to try expressing a similar idea
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:42 pm
by masako
netla unyaye
I understood that.
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:09 pm
by masako
mo tlokua ka
Where is everyone?
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:10 pm
by bradrn
Tsek nii ŋande daw tuq! Ŋiimu tshaaliŋu waalhiŋu…
/t͡sək niː ˈŋandə daw tuʔ || ˈŋiːmu ˈt͡sʰaːliŋu ˈwaːɬiŋu/
that.VIS COP question good very! 3p=PST leave-PFV-TEL go-PFV-TEL
That is a very good question! They have all disappeared…
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:55 am
by KathTheDragon
Iyeyu im, tak nuwan neti uwanyo iś motiśen
HAB=1S here | IND=nothing-PL SR SBJV-desire\PFV-1S=SR say\INF-SG.N-3P
I'm here, but there's nothing I want to say.
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:58 am
by xxx
zafou
ouuom
uuduu
obscured(by the)understanding(of the)language
lost in my language ideas...
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:19 am
by bradrn
KathTheDragon wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:55 am
Iyeyu im, tak nuwan neti uwanyo iś motiśen
HAB=1S here | IND=nothing-PL SR SBJV-desire\PFV-1S=SR say\INF-SG.N-3P
I'm here, but there's nothing I want to say.
‘Qiye’ kheliithikh thaŋ mbesii ‘yu’, ‘tak=’ thaŋ mbesii ‘nuwan’ thaŋ maag, ‘=ilh’ thaŋ mbesii ‘quwanyu’ thaŋ… Ŋay ngii fugun!!
/ˈʔijə kʰəˈliːtʰikʰ tʰaŋ ᵐbəˈsiː ju | tak tʰaŋ ᵐbəˈsiː ˈnuwan maːɣ | (ʔ)iɬ tʰaŋ ᵐbəˈsiː ˈʔuwanju tʰaŋ || ŋaj ᵑɡiː ˈfuɣun/
‘iye’ clitic DEF.SG merge ‘yu’, ‘tak=’ DEF.SG merge ‘nuwan’ DEF.SG NEG, ‘=iś’ DEF.SG merge ‘uwanyo’ DEF.SG… 3s COP.NEG sense
The clitic ‘iye=’ is written together with ‘yu’, but ‘tak=’ isn’t merged with ‘nuwan’, and ‘=iś’ isn’t merged with ‘uwanyo’… It makes no sense!!
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:07 am
by KathTheDragon
bradrn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:19 am
‘Qiye’ kheliithikh thaŋ mbesii ‘yu’, ‘tak=’ thaŋ mbesii ‘nuwan’ thaŋ maag, ‘=ilh’ thaŋ mbesii ‘quwanyu’ thaŋ… Ŋay ngii fugun!!
/ˈʔijə kʰəˈliːtʰikʰ tʰaŋ ᵐbəˈsiː ju | tak tʰaŋ ᵐbəˈsiː ˈnuwan maːɣ | (ʔ)iɬ tʰaŋ ᵐbəˈsiː ˈʔuwanju tʰaŋ || ŋaj ᵑɡiː ˈfuɣun/
‘iye’ clitic DEF.SG merge ‘yu’, ‘tak=’ DEF.SG merge ‘nuwan’ DEF.SG NEG, ‘=iś’ DEF.SG merge ‘uwanyo’ DEF.SG… 3s COP.NEG sense
The clitic ‘iye=’ is written together with ‘yu’, but ‘tak=’ isn’t merged with ‘nuwan’, and ‘=iś’ isn’t merged with ‘uwanyo’… It makes no sense!!
Lammaḫ te
sip\IPFV-3S.C tea
*sips tea*
It actually makes perfect sense -
iyeyu is
iye-u with a transitional
y (for reasons) between the clitic and the normal suffix form of the 1S pronoun, which is required after
iye (for reasons).
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:10 am
by bradrn
KathTheDragon wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:07 am
bradrn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:19 am
‘Qiye’ kheliithikh thaŋ mbesii ‘yu’, ‘tak=’ thaŋ mbesii ‘nuwan’ thaŋ maag, ‘=ilh’ thaŋ mbesii ‘quwanyu’ thaŋ… Ŋay ngii fugun!!
/ˈʔijə kʰəˈliːtʰikʰ tʰaŋ ᵐbəˈsiː ju | tak tʰaŋ ᵐbəˈsiː ˈnuwan maːɣ | (ʔ)iɬ tʰaŋ ᵐbəˈsiː ˈʔuwanju tʰaŋ || ŋaj ᵑɡiː ˈfuɣun/
‘iye’ clitic DEF.SG merge ‘yu’, ‘tak=’ DEF.SG merge ‘nuwan’ DEF.SG NEG, ‘=iś’ DEF.SG merge ‘uwanyo’ DEF.SG… 3s COP.NEG sense
The clitic ‘iye=’ is written together with ‘yu’, but ‘tak=’ isn’t merged with ‘nuwan’, and ‘=iś’ isn’t merged with ‘uwanyo’… It makes no sense!!
Lammaḫ te
sip\IPFV-3S.C tea
*sips tea*
It actually makes perfect sense -
iyeyu is
iye-u with a transitional
y (for reasons) between the clitic and the normal suffix form of the 1S pronoun, which is required after
iye (for reasons).
But then why don’t you write the other clitics together? In other words, I’m wondering why you don’t do this:
Iyeyu im, taknuwan neti uwanyoiś motiśen
And instead do this:
Iyeyu im, tak nuwan neti uwanyo iś motiśen
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:31 am
by masako
uakalamya hayo...
That language is hers,,,
eya ueninek
Maybe you shouldn't critique