rotting bones wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 10:54 pm
Why is their being Muslim salient to you? In America, Muslims are not especially poor immigrants. Many of them have higher median household income than the national average. Indians are the richest immigrants in the US, but they are a poor minority in Malaysia.
I'm not talking about Muslims,
but about migrants
who are so poor that they emigrate...
rotting bones wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 10:54 pmVery good, you have expressed the core of this insanity. "The poor are poor because the poor poor at them" is nonsense because the working poor are the source of all social goods. By contrast, the rich consume more than they produce. Capitalism cannot support wealthy classes without poor classes. Money is not real. There is no substance called "wealth" that rich people have. Depending on how the poor choose to resist working for the rich, they would either starve or be beaten up by the police. That's capitalism. The system is built on exploitation from bottom up. One reason people keep forgetting this is that relational systems are apparently not as intuitive as Platonic ideas. People think that because poor people look scrappy, they are vectors exuding a Platonic essence of poverty. However, a sane person who thinks for 2 seconds about who does the actual work will remember that that's not how reality works. If anything, the idea that the rich, despite their glossy sheen, are the vectors of poverty is closer to the truth (though this whole approach is sloppy thinking).
no, i just talking about the increase of the number of poor by immigration...
rotting bones wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 10:54 pm
xxx wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:45 am
they are the victims of decolonization,
forced to leave their country
and live in a sub-proletariat abroad
As opposed to what, living as the gloriously colonized?
yes, develop the country in partnership with local authorities
rather than exploiting it by putting puppet despot in charge
and forcing its population onto the roads in order to survive...
rotting bones wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 10:54 pm
xxx wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:45 am
where, with the same logic,
the poorest nationals are asked to share
and the middle classes to make sacrifices
to increase the foreign assets of an oligarchy
promoting this internationalism...
The Muslims you are talking about are also among the weakest citizens of your country. Why do they not count?
the leftwing has tipped over into essentialism and sentimentalism for elections
and internationalist business for its wallet...
rotting bones wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 10:54 pm
xxx wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:45 am
the left wing, after having encouraged colonialism, encourages decolonialism,
replaces the export of its ideals with the import of misery,
and in the process promotes the accumulation of wealth
plundered in decolonized countries,
in this modern triangular trade...
Which left supported colonialism?
it's historical,
rotting bones wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 10:54 pm
Lenin was calling colonialism "imperialism" more than a century ago.
yes the heir to the Czarist empire,
and father of the USSR empire,
whose grandson Putin is still entangled in his imperialist wars,
is credible on this subject...
American foreign policy has always been cynical like policy of More's Utopia...