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Birdlang wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:40 am How about my Malayo Polynesian language? This orthography is based off of Indonesian regional languages.
a b c d e é f g gh gy h i j k kh ky l m n ng ny o ó p r s sy t u eu w y z ʼ

I know you posted this a month ago, but I only just saw it today — sorry! Anyway, here’s my guess at this:

⟨m n ny ng⟩ /m n ɲ ŋ/
⟨p t c ky k ʼ⟩ /p t t͡ʂ c k ʔ/
⟨b d j gy g⟩ /b d d͡ʐ ɟ ɡ/
⟨f s z sy kh gh h⟩ /f s z ʃ x ɣ h/
⟨l r w y⟩ /l r w j/

⟨a e é i o ó u eu⟩ /a ɛ e i ɔ o u ə/

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Anyway, here’s my next challenge:

⟨a aa ã ãã b c d đ e ee ẽ ẽẽ g ɣ h j k ꝁ l ł m n ñ ɲ ŋ o oo õ õõ q t v w x y ɏ z⟩
+ ⟨Vˉ Vˍ⟩, which may occur with any vowel.

Sample text:
Ñeeˉcã ɣõˍbaˉ maaˍłõõˉvẽ ɏoˍqee ꝁãˉ.

(I did already post this here, but I’d be interested to see what other phonologies everyone here can think up!)

After four years, foxcatdog reminded me that this thread existed. So, let me have a go at solving my own challenge of four years ago:

⟨a e o⟩ /a e o/
⟨aa ee oo⟩ /aː eː oː/
⟨ã ẽ õ⟩ /ã ẽ õ/
⟨ãã ẽẽ õõ⟩ /ãː ẽː õː/

⟨V Vˉ Vˍ⟩ /V˥ V˧ V˩/

⟨m n ɲ ŋ ñ⟩ /m n ɲ ŋ ɴ/
⟨b d j g q⟩ /b d d͡ʒ ɡ ɢ/
⟨t c k ꝁ⟩ /t t͡ʃ k q/
⟨v z đ ɣ⟩ /v z ʒ ɣ/
⟨l y w⟩ /l j w/
⟨ł ɏ x h⟩ /ɬ j̊ x h/

Ñeeˉcã ɣõˍbaˉ maaˍłõõˉvẽ ɏoˍqee ꝁãˉ.

/ɴeː˥t͡ʃã˧ ɣõ˩ba˥ maː˩ɬõː˥vẽ˧ j̊o˩ɢeː qã˥/

Here is my latest language, with some examples taken from this board:

<a aa b b' c ch c' d d' e ee f g h i ii j k kh k' l m n o oo q qh q' r s t th t' u uu w x y z>

Yooriwim nitkun xaalat saha. Ruuhraatac'a q'omahi fera hat gich tik'aa. Yooric'am aqwa ficcat cola. Wanniziyetha sun ha qhamaniziye fad'a ha taye yoh. Taye zo fad'ama gani. Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka ha wohadetafa gaare. Ennadinutha gaare d'ate ha eetatadi siiman. Coxitaleeyema ha magta ha lehhataye ha ta siga t'awraadat yola. Yaa ha ta ha k'aytaa zon alle jo. Ichazinumam ha q'inta niiha sigat t'awraadat yola! Komamuna! A Znex, gadila nayad le ha bakimetha yoh mut'? Qhamaniziye sigaa mut'a.

⟨a e i o u⟩ /a e i o u/
⟨aa ee ii oo uu⟩ /aː eː iː oː uː/

⟨m n⟩ /m n/
⟨t c k q⟩ /t t͡ʃ k q/
⟨th ch kh qh⟩ /tʰ t͡ʃʰ kʰ qʰ/
⟨t' c' k' q'⟩ /tʼ t͡ʃʼ kʼ qʼ/
⟨b d j g⟩ /b d d͡ʒ ɡ/
⟨b' d'⟩ /ɓ ɗ/
⟨f s z x h⟩ /f s z x h/
⟨w l y r⟩ /w l j r/

(I did see this language a couple of days ago, so I’ve tried to avoid thinking about what I can remember; all I can recall is that I’ve assigned ⟨x h⟩ differently.)

bradrn wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 5:56 pm ⟨a e i o u⟩ /a e i o u/
⟨aa ee ii oo uu⟩ /aː eː iː oː uː/

⟨m n⟩ /m n/
⟨t c k q⟩ /t t͡ʃ k q/
⟨th ch kh qh⟩ /tʰ t͡ʃʰ kʰ qʰ/
⟨t' c' k' q'⟩ /tʼ t͡ʃʼ kʼ qʼ/
⟨b d j g⟩ /b d d͡ʒ ɡ/
⟨b' d'⟩ /ɓ ɗ/
⟨f s z x h⟩ /f s z x h/
⟨w l y r⟩ /w l j r/

(I did see this language a couple of days ago, so I’ve tried to avoid thinking about what I can remember; all I can recall is that I’ve assigned ⟨x h⟩ differently.)

I think you chose the most obvious orthography for this language, as the only really "different" choices I made were how I mapped ⟨c ch c' g h j x⟩.

And now for something a little different…

/m n/ m n
/b t d c ɟ k g q/ b t d c j k g q
/b^x t^x d^x c^x k^x q^x/ b' t' d' c' k' q'
/ɸ ʭ s ʃ x χ h/ f x th s ch kh qh h
/β z/ w z
/l ɹ j/ l r y

/a e i o u/ a e i o u
/ɛ̯a ɛ̯e i̯e ɔ̯o i̯u/ aa ee ii oo uu

…but:

yii yuu /i̯ei̯ i̯eu̯/

*a *e *i *j *k *kʷ *l *m *n *ń *o *p *r *s *ś *t *u *w

foxcatdog wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 12:28 am *a *e *i *j *k *kʷ *l *m *n *ń *o *p *r *s *ś *t *u *w

/a e i j k kʷ l m n ɲ o p r s ɕ t u ʋ/

Man in Space wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 12:22 am /b^x t^x d^x c^x k^x q^x/ b' t' d' c' k' q'

By the way, what are those ^x's supposed to signify? I tried looking up the extIPA for those but the page I got on the Wiki rendered much of such things as blocks.

Travis B. wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 12:05 pm

Man in Space wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 12:22 am /b^x t^x d^x c^x k^x q^x/ b' t' d' c' k' q'

By the way, what are those ^x's supposed to signify? I tried looking up the extIPA for those but the page I got on the Wiki rendered much of such things as blocks.

I interpret them as simply heterorganic affricates — e.g. [tx] is attested in Navajo.

bradrn wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 12:40 pm

Travis B. wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 12:05 pm

Man in Space wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 12:22 am /b^x t^x d^x c^x k^x q^x/ b' t' d' c' k' q'

By the way, what are those ^x's supposed to signify? I tried looking up the extIPA for those but the page I got on the Wiki rendered much of such things as blocks.

I interpret them as simply heterorganic affricates — e.g. [tx] is attested in Navajo.

Not merely heterorganic but also heterovoiced affricates like [bx] and [dx] seem, well, strange to me...

Travis B. wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 12:46 pm

bradrn wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 12:40 pm

Travis B. wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 12:05 pm

By the way, what are those ^x's supposed to signify? I tried looking up the extIPA for those but the page I got on the Wiki rendered much of such things as blocks.

I interpret them as simply heterorganic affricates — e.g. [tx] is attested in Navajo.

Not merely heterorganic but also heterovoiced affricates like [bx] and [dx] seem, well, strange to me...

It’s supposed to be velar frication like in Lakota.

Man in Space wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 3:37 pm

Travis B. wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 12:46 pm

bradrn wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 12:40 pm

I interpret them as simply heterorganic affricates — e.g. [tx] is attested in Navajo.

Not merely heterorganic but also heterovoiced affricates like [bx] and [dx] seem, well, strange to me...

It’s supposed to be velar frication like in Lakota.

Ah gotcha.