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Re: What do you call ...
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 10:50 am
by Vijay
Nortaneous wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 8:16 pm
Vijay wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 8:58 pm
Well, yeah, to me, too. But I assume there's some kind of regional/dialect difference at play here.
I grew up with mugs of many different sizes and no saucers, so it's entirely possible that I'm just uncultured, but as far as I'm concerned even a 2oz demitasse is a mug. An espresso mug.
Huh. I didn't even think about how social conditions could be a factor. I do have saucers, but for me, they're just like tiny plates having nothing at all to do with drinking anything.
Re: What do you call ...
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 12:57 pm
by Linguoboy
There's a huge cultural disparity between how I (with my petit-bourgeois background on my mother's side) and my flatmate (working class on both sides) interact with dishware. The other day he left me a biscuit on a saucer instead of a sandwich plate and I was like, "The hell's the matter with you?"
He rarely uses proper dishes at all, in fact, preferring to eat his meals almost entirely out of plasticware, which really annoys me when I run the dishwasher (since dishware can go anywhere but the flimsy plasticware he uses is only safe to wash on the top level).
Re: What do you call ...
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 1:16 pm
by Vijay
The way my dad wants me to use plates sometimes baffles me. Sometimes he tells me to use plates that are barely even large enough for what I'm trying to eat (but probably just because we're running out of plates when he says that).
EDIT: Which brings me to another fun question...to what extent do you distinguish things you put food in or on? For my parents, it seems basically any kind of plate, food container, or even pan (with few exceptions) is a പാത്രം [ˈpaːt̪rəm].
EDIT2: So is a plastic cover, I think.
Re: What do you call ...
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 1:17 pm
by Travis B.
I don't think anyone in my family uses saucers proper for anything, including drinking tea (considering my parents drink tea, but either in coffee cups or in these little handle-less teacups which they use without saucers).
Re: What do you call ...
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 7:13 pm
by Vijay
You have tea cups with no handles? (I don't).
Re: What do you call ...
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 7:42 pm
by bradrn
Linguoboy wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 12:57 pm
There's a huge cultural disparity between how I (with my
petit-bourgeois background on my mother's side) and my flatmate (working class on both sides) interact with dishware. The other day he left me a biscuit on a saucer instead of a sandwich plate and I was like, "The hell's the matter with you?"
What’s a ‘sandwich plate’?
He rarely uses proper dishes at all, in fact, preferring to eat his meals almost entirely out of plasticware, which really annoys me when I run the dishwasher (since dishware can go anywhere but the flimsy plasticware he uses is only safe to wash on the top level).
I use plasticware (which we call ‘Tupperware’), but only when I’m taking food somewhere else to eat. I wouldn’t use it at home.
Re: What do you call ...
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 9:28 pm
by Vijay
bradrn wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 7:42 pm
Linguoboy wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 12:57 pm
There's a huge cultural disparity between how I (with my
petit-bourgeois background on my mother's side) and my flatmate (working class on both sides) interact with dishware. The other day he left me a biscuit on a saucer instead of a sandwich plate and I was like, "The hell's the matter with you?"
What’s a ‘sandwich plate’?
I understand this to mean a plate you eat sandwiches on. The kind of plate I eat sandwiches on is certainly bigger than a saucer but not as big as a dinner plate (which I would normally eat dinner on). I'm hoping that kind of plate counts as a sandwich plate. If it does, bread rolls fit on it, but for example, tortillas and large bagels barely fit on it.
Re: What do you call ...
Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 9:12 am
by bradrn
What do you call…
…each of these three birds?
Re: What do you call ...
Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 9:30 am
by alynnidalar
Weird chicken, duck of the variety that at first glance my brain always wants to call a goose, and duck
Re: What do you call ...
Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 10:31 am
by Rounin Ryuuji
Chicken, Duck, Duck.
Re: What do you call ...
Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 11:38 am
by Travis B.
They're all ducks. The first is a domesticated Muscovy duck, which unlike all other domesticated ducks is not descended from Mallards. The second is kinda goose-ish but is actually a domesticated duck descended from a Mallard. And the third is simply a duck.
Re: Innovative Usage Thread
Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 10:56 am
by Linguoboy
Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 8:56 am
I've never heard that before; usually, the colloquial short form for me is "burger", while "Hamburg" is a city in Germany.
"Hamburger" for me is both the preparation and the raw ingredient. The former can be shortened to "burger" but not the latter. (More often I call it "ground beef" though.)
Re: Innovative Usage Thread
Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 11:07 am
by Rounin Ryuuji
Linguoboy wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 10:56 am
Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 8:56 am
I've never heard that before; usually, the colloquial short form for me is "burger", while "Hamburg" is a city in Germany.
"Hamburger" for me is both the preparation and the raw ingredient. The former can be shortened to "burger" but not the latter. (More often I call it "ground beef" though.)
I tend to call it "ground beef", or "minced beef" or "mince" depending on the audience, only very rarely "hamburger", though I would understand what was meant right away. And yes, I wouldn't have thought to shorten the ground beef meaning.
Re: What do you call ...
Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 1:14 pm
by Linguoboy
"Mince" for me is veddy UK; it's only a verb IMD. I sometimes call cooked ground beef "picadillo" strictly in the context of taco/burrito fillings.
Re: What do you call ...
Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 1:45 pm
by Rounin Ryuuji
I did pick it up from discussing cooking with a British person.
Re: What do you call ...
Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 2:11 pm
by Moose-tache
Linguoboy wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 12:57 pm
There's a huge cultural disparity between how I (with my
petit-bourgeois background on my mother's side) and my flatmate (working class on both sides) interact with dishware. The other day he left me a biscuit on a saucer instead of a sandwich plate and I was like, "The hell's the matter with you?"
He rarely uses proper dishes at all, in fact, preferring to eat his meals almost entirely out of plasticware, which really annoys me when I run the dishwasher (since dishware can go anywhere but the flimsy plasticware he uses is only safe to wash on the top level).
Not knowing what a saucer is just marks him as not a time traveler from the 18th century. They are the rotary phones of dishware.
But eating out of a polystyrene tub when you're a grown man in your own house? Unacceptable.
Re: What do you call ...
Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 2:13 pm
by Pabappa
bradrn wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 9:12 am
What do you call…
…each of these three birds?
I could see how the first one could be seen as a chicken, but i would probably be encountering it near water and if i could at least see the webbed feet i would never call it anything but a duck. i imagine they quack too. so all three would be ducks to me and nothing else unless one of them has some distinguishing trait like an unusual goose-like honking sound or inability to swim.
thanks for moving the hamburg question, ....i dont think ive clicked into this thread since the day it began.
Re: Innovative Usage Thread
Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 6:15 pm
by Travis B.
Linguoboy wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 10:56 am
Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 8:56 am
I've never heard that before; usually, the colloquial short form for me is "burger", while "Hamburg" is a city in Germany.
"Hamburger" for me is both the preparation and the raw ingredient. The former can be shortened to "burger" but not the latter. (More often I call it "ground beef" though.)
I forgot to mention in the other thread that I too tend to refer to the raw ingredient more as
ground beef than as
hamburger (I never refer to it as
burger or as "hamburg").
Re: Innovative Usage Thread
Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 7:40 pm
by Nortaneous
Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 11:07 am
Linguoboy wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 10:56 am
Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 8:56 am
I've never heard that before; usually, the colloquial short form for me is "burger", while "Hamburg" is a city in Germany.
"Hamburger" for me is both the preparation and the raw ingredient. The former can be shortened to "burger" but not the latter. (More often I call it "ground beef" though.)
I tend to call it "ground beef", or "minced beef" or "mince" depending on the audience, only very rarely "hamburger", though I would understand what was meant right away. And yes, I wouldn't have thought to shorten the ground beef meaning.
ground beef is the meat one makes burgers out of
Re: What do you call ...
Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 10:59 pm
by Linguoboy
I make burgers almost exclusively from ground turkey nowadays. Better for my gout and my cholesterol.