Zompist Bboard Again

Alternative Anglang with Latinate influence?
[ɕ] - [z]
Alle meenes scijde naer e libeeres at direektes aekwaales zooverat. Ip scijde sevied ratjoo at konscieentja, at scjaa scjoovat dood two veerbes oo fraternitaes fwor.

[ɔw 'meːns 'ziː.də 'nɛːr ə li'beːrs ət di'reːkts ɛːkwɔːls 'zoː.və.rɑt || ip 'ziː.də zviːd rə'tjoː ət kən'zjeːnt.ja || ət zjaː 'zjoː.vət doːt tʰwo 'veː.rbəs ot frɑ'tɛr.niˌtɛːs 'fwor]

1. i: u: e: o: > jəː vəː iː uː
2. tj dj sj zj lj > ʧ ʤ ʃ ʒ j
3. wo > oː
4. l > ɫ
4b. ɫ > w / _C, _#
4c. ɫ > ɣ
5. tonogenesis - syllables ending in voiced consonants take low tone, syllables ending in voiceless consonants take high tone
6. s > ∅ / C_#, C_C
6b. voiced stops devoice word-finally
7. tone shift: tones in unstressed syllables drop, affecting the tones of the stressed syllables (if there's a low unstressed syllable in the word, the stressed syllable is high and vice versa), e.g. 'CV̀CV́ > 'CV̌CV or CV̀'CV > CV'CV̌. toneless words automatically receive high tone.

Alle meens scijde naer e libeers at direekts aekwoals scooverat. Ip scijde sevied ratjoo at konscieentja, at scjaa scjoovat doot two veerbes oo fraternitaes fwor.

['ɔ̀w 'míːn 'ʒə́ː.də 'nɛ̀ːr ə ɣi'bíːr ət di'ríːkt ɛː'kwɔ́ːw 'zǔː.və.rɑt || 'íp 'ʒə́ː.də 'zvjə̀ːt rə'ʧúː ət kən'ʒìːnʧa || ət 'ʒáː 'ʒǔː.vət 'dúːt 'tʰóː 'vǐːr.bəs ot frɑ'tɛ̀r.niˌtɛ́ːs 'fóːr]

Time for a new phrase or not yet?

Anything interesting?

I'd give it like two or three more turns - it's still pretty recognizable as it is.

Karch wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:00 pm 1. i: u: e: o: > jəː vəː iː uː
2. tj dj sj zj lj > ʧ ʤ ʃ ʒ j
3. wo > oː
4. l > ɫ
4b. ɫ > w / _C, _#
4c. ɫ > ɣ
5. tonogenesis - syllables ending in voiced consonants take low tone, syllables ending in voiceless consonants take high tone
6. s > ∅ / C_#, C_C
6b. voiced stops devoice word-finally
7. tone shift: tones in unstressed syllables drop, affecting the tones of the stressed syllables (if there's a low unstressed syllable in the word, the stressed syllable is high and vice versa), e.g. 'CV̀CV́ > 'CV̌CV or CV̀'CV > CV'CV̌. toneless words automatically receive high tone.

Alle meens scijde naer e libeers at direekts aekwoals scooverat. Ip scijde sevied ratjoo at konscieentja, at scjaa scjoovat doot two veerbes oo fraternitaes fwor.

['ɔ̀w 'míːn 'ʒə́ː.də 'nɛ̀ːr ə ɣi'bíːr ət di'ríːkt ɛː'kwɔ́ːw 'zǔː.və.rɑt || 'íp 'ʒə́ː.də 'zvjə̀ːt rə'ʧúː ət kən'ʒìːnʧa || ət 'ʒáː 'ʒǔː.vət 'dúːt 'tʰóː 'vǐːr.bəs ot frɑ'tɛ̀r.niˌtɛ́ːs 'fóːr]

1. Long vowel breaking with a second "mora" falling if the first has rising pitch, [iː] > [ei], [əː] > [eo] > [øy], [ɛː] > [iæ], [ɔː uː] > [ue] > [ye], but [ou] after [w], [oː ɔw] > [ou]
1.1 Unstressed bimoraic diphthongs reduce, [i͜æ] > [je] > [e]
1.2 Deletion of unstressed schwa unless this produces an illegal cluster, and insertion of schwas to break up certain clusters (sometimes resulting in schwa-transposition), except after bimoraic vowels in morae ending in consonants, in which place they intrude
2. Syntactic realignment, the particles [ə ət] become postpositions, and then are absorbed into the preceding word; [òu] follows suit, eclipsing final schwa.
2.2 Resulting crassis of [əə] > [e], [ətət] > [ete]
3. Recolouring of schwa based on adjacent vowels, standalone schwa becomes [a]
3.1 [ɑ] brightens to [a], [æ] merges with this new vowel
3.2 Initial [z] > [s], [ɣ] > [x~ç] > [h~ç]
3.3 Loss of final [w] after bimoraic vowels ending in [u]
4. Orthographical "corrections", often based on fashionable Latin, Italian, and French, and English. Not all are accepted at first, but this style of spelling becomes increasingly popular as the century continues.

Meighnou jeoudeu niara hibeirete direiquet equouls suevrata. Ip jeoudeu seuvieouteu ruttjue at cnegeinatja at jâ juevet duete tou veirebes ot fraternitias fouro.
['mé͜ì.nou 'ʒǿ͜ỳ.dø 'nì͜a.ra çi'bé͜ì.re.te di'ré͜ìket e'kwó͜ùw 'sý͜è.vrata || 'íp 'ʒǿ͜ỳ.dø 'sø.vjǿ͜ỳ.tø ry'ʧý͜è at kne'ʒè͜inaʧa || at 'ʒáː 'ʒý͜è.vet 'dý͜è.te 'tʰó͜ù 'véìr.e.bes ot fra'tɛ̀r.niˌtías 'fóù.ro]

This game seems to have been forgotten. Let’s have a new text (well, an old text which got ignored):

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

[ow ˈçjʉmən ˈbi.ɪŋz ə‿boːn fɻʷi‿n̩ ˈʔikʷʰu̥‿n̩ ˈdɪɡnɘˌtˢi‿n̩ ˈʕʷɑ͡itˢs ‖ ðej‿əɻʷ‿ənˈdæ͡ʉd wɘθ ˈriːzən‿ə̆n ˈkʰɔnʃəns | ənd ʃəɾ‿ækt̚‿tˢəˈwoːds ˌwɐ.n̩ˈnɐðəɻʷ‿ən‿ə ˈspʰəɻʷəɾ‿ə ˈbʕʷɐðəˌhʊd̚]

bradrn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:02 am All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

[ow ˈçjʉmən ˈbi.ɪŋz ə‿boːn fɻʷi‿n̩ ˈʔikʷʰu̥‿n̩ ˈdɪɡnɘˌtˢi‿n̩ ˈʕʷɑ͡itˢs ‖ ðej‿əɻʷ‿ənˈdæ͡ʉd wɘθ ˈriːzən‿ə̆n ˈkʰɔnʃəns | ənd ʃəɾ‿ækt̚‿tˢəˈwoːds ˌwɐ.n̩ˈnɐðəɻʷ‿ən‿ə ˈspʰəɻʷəɾ‿ə ˈbʕʷɐðəˌhʊd̚]

(1) Smoothing of diphthongs, [ju] > [yː], [ow] > [oː], [ejː] > [eː], [æu] > [ɔː], [ɑi] > [ɛː]
(1.1) Contraction of [iɪ] > [iː]
(1.2) Lengthening of other stressed vowels in open syllables, [ɐː] > [aː]
(2) Assimilation of nasals to following consonants, prenasal [g] > [ŋ]; [ŋn] > [ŋŋ]
(2.1) Weakening of intervocalic nasal consonants, [m] > [w], [n] > [d]
(2.2) [wə] > [wo]
(3) [ɻʷ] and [ɾ] merge, producing [ɽ]
(3.1) [ɽ] colours a preceding schwa [a], in stressed syllables to [aː]
(3.2) [æ] merges with [a]

Orthography remains highly historical for now.

All human beings are born free and eqial in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience, and should act towards one-another in a spirit of brotherhood.

[oː ˈçyːwom ˈbiːnz ə‿boːm fɽiː‿n̩ ˈʔiː.kʷʰu̥‿n̩ ˈdɪŋŋɘˌtˢi‿n̩ ˈʕʷɛːtˢs ‖ ðeː‿aɽ‿ənˈdɔːd wɘθ ˈɽiːzəd‿ə̆ŋ ˈkʰɔnʃəns | ənd ʃaɽ‿akt̚‿tˢəˈwoːds ˌwɐ.n̩ˈnaːðaɽ‿əd‿ə ˈspʰaːɽaɽ‿ə ˈbʕʷaːðəˌhʊd̚]

Whoops, just realised I forgot to transcribe the preglottalisation. Ah well, there’s not much I can do about it now. (Let’s say it dropped before all these changes took place.)

Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:31 am All human beings are born free and eqial in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience, and should act towards one-another in a spirit of brotherhood.

[oː ˈçyːwom ˈbiːnz ə‿boːm fɽiː‿n̩ ˈʔiː.kʷʰu̥‿n̩ ˈdɪŋŋɘˌtˢi‿n̩ ˈʕʷɛːtˢs ‖ ðeː‿aɽ‿ənˈdɔːd wɘθ ˈɽiːzəd‿ə̆ŋ ˈkʰɔnʃəns | ənd ʃaɽ‿akt̚‿tˢəˈwoːds ˌwɐ.n̩ˈnaːðaɽ‿əd‿ə ˈspʰaːɽaɽ‿ə ˈbʕʷaːðəˌhʊd̚]

1. θ ð → f v (already completed for some speakers)
2. tˢ tˢs → s ts
3. ç → j
4. ɽ → ː / in coda; otherwise ʕʷ ɽ → ʔʷ l
5. n̩ → n when possible; preceding vowel lengthens if possible
6. [+front+long] → [+front-long]jə / _ [+alveolar]
7. ɛ e eː → e ə eɪ

Orthography remains historical (this is English, after all!). But to make it less boring, I’ve included a dialectal spelling pronunciation as well.

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

A’ yumun beeinz a’ born flee ’n equa’ ’n dinnisy ’n wiyuhts. Vey a’ endo’d wif leayuzod ’n konshuns, and sho’ act sowards won’nove’ id a spiri’ o’ bwuvahood.

[oː ˈjyːwom ˈbijənz ə‿boːm flij‿ən ˈʔiː.kʷʰu̥‿n ˈdəŋŋɘˌsij‿ən ˈʔʷejəts ‖ veɪ‿aː‿ənˈdɔːd wɘf ˈlijəzəd‿ə̆ŋ ˈkʰɔnʃəns | ənd ʃaː‿akt‿səˈwoːds ˌwɐːnˈnaːvaː‿əd‿ə ˈspʰaːlaː‿ə ˈbʔʷaːvəˌhʊd̚]

• 1.0 Merger of unstressed vowels to [ə]
• 1.1 Stressed [ə] > [əː] > [eː]
• 2.0 Nasalisation and lengthening of short stressed vowels followed by coda nasals; coda nasals vocalise to [ə̃] following long vowels
• 2.0.1 Terminal [əm ən əŋ] > [ə̃] > [ã]
• 2.1 Breaking of long oral before unstressed nasal vowels: [yː] > [ey], [oː] > [uo], [eː] > [ie]
• 3 Long vowel and diphthong chain shift, [oː] > [uː], [ɔː] > [oː], [ei] > [eː], [ij] > [iː], [iː] > [ai] > [ei], [ejə] > [ei], [aː] > [æː] > [ɛː]
• Conservative spelling remains largely, but the Rational Spelling Society has produced an alternative orthography designed to still preserve a "Classical English" feel (being based on Late Middle and Early Modern English spelling); there is, however, still much squabbling on this point, and the spelling will probably never change.

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

Oul Ewen bians are booarn frie and aequl in diangecie and reights. Veigh eare endode weph lieased and conshance and sheagh act cewouds wannaneavea ede sphearea e breavahud.

[uː ˈjey.wã ˈbiːãz ə‿buoə̃ fliː‿ã ˈʔei.kʷʰu̥‿n ˈdieãŋɘˌsiː‿ã ˈʔʷeits ‖ veː‿ɛː‿ãˈdoːd wɘf ˈliːəzəd‿ã ˈkʰɔ̃ːʃãs | ãd ʃɛː‿akt‿səˈwuːds ˌwɐːnˈnɛːvɛː‿əd‿ə ˈspʰɛːlɛː‿ə ˈbʔʷɛːvəˌhʊd̚]

Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:49 am All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

Oul Ewen bians are booarn frie and aequl in diangecie and reights. Veigh eare endode weph lieased and conshance and sheagh act cewouds wannaneavea ede sphearea e breavahud.

[uː ˈjey.wã ˈbiːãz ə‿buoə̃ fliː‿ã ˈʔei.kʷʰu̥‿n ˈdieãŋɘˌsiː‿ã ˈʔʷeits ‖ veː‿ɛː‿ãˈdoːd wɘf ˈliːəzəd‿ã ˈkʰɔ̃ːʃãs | ãd ʃɛː‿akt‿səˈwuːds ˌwɐːnˈnɛːvɛː‿əd‿ə ˈspʰɛːlɛː‿ə ˈbʔʷɛːvəˌhʊd̚]

u i ʔʷ > w j w / _V
uː iː > ʊː ɪː
ã > əⁿ
Vəⁿ > Vⁿ
l > ɬ / C[-voice]
ə əⁿ > ∅ n
pʰ tʰ kʰ > ɸ θ x

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

Ou Ewen bins bwoon flie-n aequ-n diangecie-n weits. Veigh eare endode weph lieased-n conshance and sheagh act swouds wanneavead sphealea bweafud.
[ʊː jey.wn bɪⁿːz bwõ fɬɪⁿː ʔej.xʷuu̥‿n djẽŋɘˌsɪⁿː weits ‖ veː‿ɛː‿n.doːd wɘf lɪːzd.n xɔ̃ː.ʃns | nd ʃɛː‿akt‿swʊːds ˌwɐːnˈnɛːvɛːd ˈsɸɛːlɛ ˈbwɛːfʊd̚]

Zju wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:45 pm All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

Ou Ewen bins bwoon flie-n aequ-n diangecie-n weits. Veigh eare endode weph lieased-n conshance and sheagh act swouds wanneavead sphealea bweafud.
[ʊː jey.wn bɪⁿːz bwõ fɬɪⁿː ʔej.xʷuu̥‿n djẽŋɘˌsɪⁿː weits ‖ veː‿ɛː‿n.doːd wɘf lɪːzd.n xɔ̃ː.ʃns | nd ʃɛː‿akt‿swʊːds ˌwɐːnˈnɛːvɛːd ˈsɸɛːlɛ ˈbwɛːfʊd̚]

(I’m not sure what the superscript [ⁿ]’s are supposed to represent, so I’ve just left them alone.)

1. Syllabic [n̩] → [n] after a vowel, otherwise [n̩] → [ən]
2. Final obstruent devoicing
3. Paragogic [ə] added after final stops and affricates
4. Subject pronouns (‘they’ [veː]) cliticise to the beginning of the VP; ‘they are’ [veː‿ɛː] → [vɪj]; ‘they should’ [veːʃɛː] → [vɪjʃ]
5. Initial cluster simplification: [bw fɬ dj ts sw sɸ] → [w ɬ dʒ s s s]
6. Unrounded vowels round & break before labials [eː ɛː] → [ey ɛy]
7. Irregular change: [xʷuu̥] → [hu]

(8. English-speakers reluctantly add a couple more abbreviations to the orthography.)

All human beings they born free and equal in dignity and rights. They th’are endowed with reason and conscience and theysh’ act towards on’nother in spirit brotherhood.

[ʊː jey.wən bɪⁿːs vey.wõ ɬɪⁿː ʔey.hun dʒẽ.ŋɘˌsɪⁿː wei.sə ‖ vey‿vɪj‿ən.doː.tə wɘf lɪːz.dən xɔ̃ː.ʃəns | əntə vɪjʃ‿akt‿sʊː.sə ˌwɐːnˈnɛy.vɛː.tə ˈsɛː.lɛ ˈwɛː.fʊ.tə]

bradrn wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:14 am All human beings they born free and equal in dignity and rights. They th’are endowed with reason and conscience and theysh’ act towards on’nother in spirit brotherhood.

[ʊː jey.wən bɪⁿːs vey.wõ ɬɪⁿː ʔey.hun dʒẽ.ŋɘˌsɪⁿː wei.sə ‖ vey‿vɪj‿ən.doː.tə wɘf lɪːz.dən xɔ̃ː.ʃəns | əntə vɪjʃ‿akt‿sʊː.sə ˌwɐːnˈnɛy.vɛː.tə ˈsɛː.lɛ ˈwɛː.fʊ.tə]

I'm interpreting the superscript-n as nasalisation. This said:

(1) Tensing (and denasalsation) and possible lowering of long vowels [ɛː] > [eː] > [iː], [ʊː] > [øː], [ɪː] > [eː] (sometimes caught in [eː] > [iː], other times not), [ɔː] > [ɑː] > [aː], [ɐː] > [aː];
(1.1) Smoothing of diphthongs into long vowels, [ey] > [yː], [ei] > [ai] > [æː], [ɪj] > [ei] > [ai] > [æː], [ɛy] > [øː]
(2) "Weak Vowel" fortition, [wə] > [wo], [ə] > [a], [ʊ] > [ø], [ɘ] > [i]
(3) Nasal vowels denasalise, and eject an appropriate nasal consonant into the coda, unless a nasal consonant follows, in which case it is lost unconditionally.
(4) Loss of glottal stops
(5) Deletion of nasals in some cases promotes adding the dialectal conjunction [ø], cognate to modern "with".
(5.1) Adjectives add [ʃ] (with an extra vowel if the word ends in a consonant) to the end regardless of etymology.
(5.2) Copula reformation based on the form [væː] with an innovative verbal prefix [ta] (cognate to "to", and just [t] before a vowel) appended to most verbs, which tend to acquire a more distinct pronunciation
(5.3) Morphological changes have allowed spelling reformers to make inroads by appealing to ancient-looking sensibilities. Conservative spelling continues to coexist, however, with no period of transition, and some think this radical new system will be overturned before the decade is out.

[øː jyː.won beːs || vyː ta'woːn ɬeːʃ ø yː.hunaʃ dʒe.ŋisiː ø wæː.sa ‖ vyː tavæː an.doː.ta wof leːz.dan ø xaː.ʃans || anta væːʃ‿takt‿søː.sa ˌwaːnˈnø.viː.ta ˈsiː.le ˈwiː.fø.ta]
Eoghl heuwon beghs, theuw tawoghn lleghsh eo euwhunash jengisiegh eo wæghsa. Veuw tavægh andoghta wof leghsdan eo haghshans, anta væghsh tact seoghhsa waghn'novighta sighle wighfeota.


(Is this quite enough yet? I think it's so thoroughly unintelligible this frightful spelling works well enough for it.)

Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:23 pm (5.1) Adjectives add [ʃ] (with an extra vowel if the word ends in a consonant) to the end regardless of etymology.

…but why‽ Is this by analogy with other adjectives ending in [ʃ] or something?

[øː jyː.won beːs || vyː ta'woːn ɬeːʃ ø yː.hunaʃ dʒe.ŋisiː ø wæː.sa ‖ vyː tavæː an.doː.ta wof leːz.dan ø xaː.ʃans || anta væːʃ‿takt‿søː.sa ˌwaːnˈnø.viː.ta ˈsiː.le ˈwiː.fø.ta]
Eoghl heuwon beghs, theuw tawoghn lleghsh eo euwhunash jengisiegh eo wæghsa. Veuw tavægh andoghta wof leghsdan eo haghshans, anta væghsh tact seoghhsa waghn'novighta sighle wighfeota.


(Is this quite enough yet? I think it's so thoroughly unintelligible this frightful spelling works well enough for it.)

Yep, I think this is more than enough! Let’s do something a bit different now:

[t͡sawt͡səwatʔm ewət ŋʔot͡sʔəqaɰte enaɾaɬʔat | t͡sakəɰetʔm atɬenjuqej nəppəɬuqin | naqam ŋʔot͡sʔəqaɰte ənpənat͡sɰəqaɰte ətɬʔat | ɰeɾʔeɬin ɰuŋetɬin ənqen t͡saɬəɰet ənpənat͡sɰəqajəɾɰen | mikənti ətɬon]

(source)

bradrn wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:06 pm

Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:23 pm (5.1) Adjectives add [ʃ] (with an extra vowel if the word ends in a consonant) to the end regardless of etymology.

…but why‽ Is this by analogy with other adjectives ending in [ʃ] or something?

Yes.

bradrn wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:06 pm

[øː jyː.won beːs || vyː ta'woːn ɬeːʃ ø yː.hunaʃ dʒe.ŋisiː ø wæː.sa ‖ vyː tavæː an.doː.ta wof leːz.dan ø xaː.ʃans || anta væːʃ‿takt‿søː.sa ˌwaːnˈnø.viː.ta ˈsiː.le ˈwiː.fø.ta]
Eoghl heuwon beghs, theuw tawoghn lleghsh eo euwhunash jengisiegh eo wæghsa. Veuw tavægh andoghta wof leghsdan eo haghshans, anta væghsh tact seoghhsa waghn'novighta sighle wighfeota.


(Is this quite enough yet? I think it's so thoroughly unintelligible this frightful spelling works well enough for it.)

Yep, I think this is more than enough! Let’s do something a bit different now:

[t͡sawt͡səwatʔm ewət ŋʔot͡sʔəqaɰte enaɾaɬʔat | t͡sakəɰetʔm atɬenjuqej nəppəɬuqin | naqam ŋʔot͡sʔəqaɰte ənpənat͡sɰəqaɰte ətɬʔat | ɰeɾʔeɬin ɰuŋetɬin ənqen t͡saɬəɰet ənpənat͡sɰəqajəɾɰen | mikənti ətɬon]

(source)

Challenge accepted!
(1) Smooth out the falling diphthongs and triphthongs, [aw], [aɰ] > [aː], [əwa] > [oa] > [oː], [ewə] > [eo] > [øː], [əɰe] > [oe] > [yː], [ej] > [eː], [əja] > [ea] > [æa] > [æː]
(1.1) And take out the rising ones, too [ɰə] > [u], [ju] > [y], [ɰe] > [ø], [ɰu] > [u]
(2) Vocalisation of interconsonantal [ʔ] > [ə], insertion of [ə] between ʔ and a preceding or following consonant.
(2.1) Deletion of intervocalic [ʔ], a sequence of two of the same vowel so created becomes long;
(2.2) [əa] > [aː]. [əo] > [oə], [əː] > [eː], [əe] > [eə]
(3.) Deaffrication, [ts] > [s], [tɬ] > [ɬ]
(3.1) Intervocalic [s] > [z], [ɬ] > [h~ç]
(4.) Give it an orthography:

Sázótëm éwt ngoëzéqáte enarahát, sakíwtëm aheniwqé nëppëhuqin. Nagam ngoëzéqáte ënpënazuqáte ëhát. Ewreëhin ungehin ënqen sahíwt ënpënazuqáerewn. Mikënti ëhon.

(Note: Divisions are simply guesses at where the real pauses are, to give some visual structure for future developments.)

[saːzoːtəm øːt ŋoəzeːqaːte enaɾahaːt | sakyːtəm ahenyqeː nəppəhuqin | naqam ŋoəzeːqaːte ənpənazuqaːte əhaːt | øɾeəhin uŋehin ənqen saçyːt ənpənazuqæːɾøn | mikənti əhon]

(Whoops, just realised I made some typos: [atɬenjuqej] for [ətɬenyuqej], [t͡saɬəɰet] for [t͡sakəɰet]. Ah well, chalk it up to ‘irregular developments’…)

Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:35 pm (Note: Divisions are simply guesses at where the real pauses are, to give some visual structure for future developments.)

See the linked source: all are full stops (with a question mark at the end).

[saːzoːtəm øːt ŋoəzeːqaːte enaɾahaːt | sakyːtəm ahenyqeː nəppəhuqin | naqam ŋoəzeːqaːte ənpənazuqaːte əhaːt | øɾeəhin uŋehin ənqen saçyːt ənpənazuqæːɾøn | mikənti əhon]

1. [aː] → [ɑː], [Və] → [Vː]
2. [z] → [ð]
3. At the beginning of a word: V̆ → ∅, [-round+long] → j [-round-long], [+round+long] → w [+round-long]
4. [i y u e ø o a] → [ɪ ʏ ʊ ɛ œ ɔ ɐ], then long vowels shorten and more vowels merge and shift: [y u] → [ʉ], [ʊ] → [u], [ɐ ɑ] → [ɑ]
5. [h] → [β] / V_V
6. Posttonic vowel deletion
7. Nasals assimilate in place to next consonant (but [Nq] → [ŋq]); also syllable-final [stop] [nasal] → [assimilated nasal]

Saðtem woet n̄ōðqatē narhat. Saktem hēn̄që neppevun̄. Nan̄ n̄ōðqatē mpenaðqatē hat. Rëvn n̄ēvn n̄qēn saht mpenaðqaeroen. Mīkntī hon?

[sɑðtəm wœt ŋoðqɑtɛ nɑɾhɑt | sɑktəm hɛŋqe nəppəβuŋ | nɑŋ ŋoðqɑtɛ mpənɑðqɑtɛ hɑt | ɾeβn ŋɛβn ŋqɛn sɑçt mpənɑðqæɾœn | mɪkntɪ hɔn]

(Hmm, looks like I turned Chukchi into Sakao…)

bradrn wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:34 am Saðtem woet n̄ōðqatē narhat. Saktem hēn̄që neppevun̄. Nan̄ n̄ōðqatē mpenaðqatē hat. Rëvn n̄ēvn n̄qēn saht mpenaðqaeroen. Mīkntī hon?

(1) Syllable-final [ð β] merge to [β], then [ʋ]
(1.1) [w] and intervocalic [β] > [ʋ]
(1.2) Vowels lengthen before coda [r ʋ ŋ x~ç]
(1.3) [ɛː] > [eː]
(2) [ŋ] > [g]
(2.1) [gq] > [gg], initially > [g] with compensatory lengthening of following vowel
(2.2) [g] > [x~ç] before a consonant other than itself medially, and unconditionally finally

Sautem woet gouqate narhat. Saktëm hegge nëppëwuh. Nah gouqate mpënauqate hat. Reun geun ggen saht mpënauqaeroen. Miknti hon?

[sɑːʋtəm ʋœt goːʋqɑtɛ nɑːɾhɑt | sɑktəm hɛːg.ge nəppəʋuːx | nɑːx goːʋqɑtɛ mpənɑːʋqɑtɛ hɑt | ɾeːʋn geːʋn gɛːn sɑːçt mpənɑːʋqæɾœn | mɪkntɪ hɔn]

Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:27 am [sɑːʋtəm ʋœt goːʋqɑtɛ nɑːɾhɑt | sɑktəm hɛːg.ge nəppəʋuːx | nɑːx goːʋqɑtɛ mpənɑːʋqɑtɛ hɑt | ɾeːʋn geːʋn gɛːn sɑːçt mpənɑːʋqæɾœn | mɪkntɪ hɔn]

1. ʋ → ∅ / Vː _
2. h → ∅ / C _
3. At the end of a syllable: voiceless obstruent → ʔ → ː, voiced fricative → nasal; but [çt] → [çʔ] → [jˀ]
4. Vowel breaking: æː ɑː ɛː œː ɔː eː øː əː oː ɪː ʏː iː ʉː uː → ɐj ɐw ɛj ɛw ɔw ej ew əj ow ɪj ɪw iw ʉw uj (and then [wjˀ] → [wˀ])
5. Semivowels become coarticulated with following consonants; nʲ ŋʲ tʲ dʲ → ɲ ɲ t͡ɕ d͡ʑ
6. Vowel affectation: i~ʉ~u ɪ~ʏ~ʊ e~ø~o ə ɛ~œ~ɔ æ~ɐ~ɑ → u ʊ o ɵ ɔ ɒ / next to labiovelars, → i ɪ e ɛ æ / next to palatals
7. The resulting system of 18 monophthongs is extremely unstable and collapses: ɪ ʏ ʊ → i ʉ u, ɵ → ø, ɛ ɔ → æ ɒ, ɑ → ɐ, with /ij/ → [ɪj] allophonically

Sautuem wau gougautae naurau. Sautuem haenje nëppëwiy. Nau gougautae mpënauqautae hau. Rein gein gaein sauʼ mpënauqauroen. Minchi haun?

[sɒ.tʷøm ʋɒw go.qʷɒ.tæ nɒ.ɾʷɒ | sɒ.tʷøm hæɲ.d͡ʑe nə.ppə.ʋɪj | nɒw go.qʷɒ.tæ mpə.nɒ.qʷɒ.tæ hɒw | ɾeɲ geɲ gæɲ sɒwˀ mpə.nɒ.qʷɒ.ɾœn | mi.ɲt͡ɕi hɒn]

Let me propose next one Vulgar Latin this time

In loco Manicie, cujus nomine non quero acordare me, non abet multu tempus qui vivebat nobils de lancias in faliscas, iscutu anticu, caballu flaccu et cane gallicu cursantis.

[in 'loko ma'nikie 'kujus 'nomine non 'kwero ako'rdare me non abet 'multu 'tempus kwi vi'vebat no'bilis de 'lankias in fa'liskas is'kutu an'tiku ka'balu 'flaku et 'kane ga'liku ku'rsantis]

What is that BTW?

Otto Kretschmer wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:48 am [in 'loco ma'nikie 'kujus 'nomine non 'kwero ako'rdare me non abet 'multu 'tempus kwi vi'vebat no'bilis de 'lankias in fa'liskas is'kutu an'tiku ka'balu 'flaku et 'kane ga'liku ku'rsantis]

Are ['loco ako'rdare ku'rsantis] typos for [ˈloko akorˈdare kurˈsantis]?

What is that BTW?

The last text? Chukchi. What it ended up as? I dunno, we seem to have turned it into some sort of hybrid Japanese–Marshallese abomination. (Admittedly, that’s mostly my fault.)

Fixed the typo

My text is Don Quijote in Vulgar Latin