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Posted: **Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:55 am**

Nortaneous wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 12:54 am (or the other one that Glottolog groups with it, Nagtipunan)

I thought everything was an isolate according to Glottolog - lol.

Posted: **Fri Oct 04, 2024 11:45 am**

Nortaneous wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 12:54 am NE Luzon? If so, Casiguran Dumagat? (or the other one that Glottolog groups with it, Nagtipunan)

Yeah, Casiguran Dumagat. I thought it'd be harder, given that I took the sample from a book that isn't online (I plan to scan it sometime in the future, though), but I guess the amount of vowel symbols gave it away.

Posted: **Fri Oct 04, 2024 6:24 pm**

Karch wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 11:45 am I thought it'd be harder, given that I took the sample from a book that isn't online (I plan to scan it sometime in the future, though), but I guess the amount of vowel symbols gave it away.

There aren't many Philippine languages with that many vowels. I couldn't find the exact text (or any material with <ă>), but the pronouns matched and I assumed Headland's <éy> was equal to <ăy>.

Next language:

Ero wara cetken̂e aweroro rma. N̂examronhîrî mokyatken̂e hara. Kir̂wan̂he so rma mokyatkene. Yihcirî me ka mokyakn̂e Kîrîyme. Taa, pona xa hara Pooto tak mokyakn̂e okomn̂i n̂he tak ha. Ero wara mokyatken̂e hara kîrwan̂he rma. Taa, on wara tko wîîkes okyakno, kaknonhîrî poko tak ha. On wara xakn̂e Kîrîyme pen, wayhyakn̂e okwe kaknonhîrî pen komo. Ahce kacho ha na? Camkî xa was ow. On wara mokyakn̂e cuhwawnonho, mokuche n̂enmay, n̂enmay, nokohwakn̂e tak noro pen. Taa, amn̂e nocoronwakn̂e ha na. Taa, yîhtarî poko xakn̂e erekî, amorî poko marha, ewru kwaw marha.

Posted: **Fri Oct 04, 2024 8:40 pm**

That's really weird with <î r̂ n̂>. I'm tempted to say it's South American?

Posted: **Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:05 pm**

Darren wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 8:40 pm South American?

Yes.

Posted: **Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:12 pm**

Amazonian?

Posted: **Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:22 pm**

Darren wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:12 pmAmazonian?

Yes.

Posted: **Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:33 pm**

Does n with circumflex represent /ɲ/?

Posted: **Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:54 pm**

Darren wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:33 pm Does n with circumflex represent /ɲ/?

Yes.

Posted: **Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:05 pm**

Is it Arawakan?

Posted: **Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:08 pm**

Darren wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:05 pmIs it Arawakan?

No.

Posted: **Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:11 pm**

Nortaneous wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:08 pm
Darren wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:05 pmIs it Arawakan?
No.

Cariban then?

Posted: **Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:50 pm**

Darren wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:11 pm Cariban then?

Yes.

Posted: **Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:57 pm**

I guess it's Waiwai then?

Posted: **Fri Oct 04, 2024 11:05 pm**

Darren wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:57 pm I guess it's Waiwai then?

Yes.

Posted: **Fri Oct 04, 2024 11:28 pm**

Not a language I'm very familiar with; I saw it on Saphon but it had /ɸ/ instead of /p/ so I ignored it until everything else was out.

Anyway, here's the next language:

Ė̄ mwó útí ā jè̄kúlè́ kóāmè̄īū ā tábè́ hến hếā cè́íú jō kā cáa cīm ni͐ mè̄tè̄ kā cáa cīm ni͐ mè̄té̄ kā cáa cīm ni͐ àcùö̀ hến kā kō níméni͐ āpūlīè̄ mē lé̄ pwȫ ni͐ mébwè̄lè̄ kāhế kō tícè́ tábè̄. Kā è̄ té́è̀lè̀ ö͐ pā úkè́íú na͐a è̄ mú nēda͐ Hếjūpūlūt kā è̄ pīi tè͐lé͐ pīè̄, “Gāé̄ tápítíka͐wé͐ hếā tàn cè͐ kā gānyē ō tāa pwīihî̄ li͐ mébwè̄lè̄.”

Posted: **Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:01 am**

Nortaneous wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 12:54 am
fusijui wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 10:37 am (Of course, I apparently don't love them enough either, and have no clue on how to field-spot them.)
Lots of /g/, no voice assimilation in clusters.

Oh, that much I recognize, but that only narrows it down to a hundred or two possibilities, right?

Posted: **Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:22 am**

Darren wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 11:28 pm
Ė̄ mwó útí ā jè̄kúlè́ kóāmè̄īū ā tábè́ hến hếā cè́íú jō kā cáa cīm ni͐ mè̄tè̄ kā cáa cīm ni͐ mè̄té̄ kā cáa cīm ni͐ àcùö̀ hến kā kō níméni͐ āpūlīè̄ mē lé̄ pwȫ ni͐ mébwè̄lè̄ kāhế kō tícè́ tábè̄. Kā è̄ té́è̀lè̀ ö͐ pā úkè́íú na͐a è̄ mú nēda͐ Hếjūpūlūt kā è̄ pīi tè͐lé͐ pīè̄, “Gāé̄ tápítíka͐wé͐ hếā tàn cè͐ kā gānyē ō tāa pwīihî̄ li͐ mébwè̄lè̄.”

Spoken in Africa?

Posted: **Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:29 am**

Nortaneous wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:22 am
Darren wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 11:28 pm
Ė̄ mwó útí ā jè̄kúlè́ kóāmè̄īū ā tábè́ hến hếā cè́íú jō kā cáa cīm ni͐ mè̄tè̄ kā cáa cīm ni͐ mè̄té̄ kā cáa cīm ni͐ àcùö̀ hến kā kō níméni͐ āpūlīè̄ mē lé̄ pwȫ ni͐ mébwè̄lè̄ kāhế kō tícè́ tábè̄. Kā è̄ té́è̀lè̀ ö͐ pā úkè́íú na͐a è̄ mú nēda͐ Hếjūpūlūt kā è̄ pīi tè͐lé͐ pīè̄, “Gāé̄ tápítíka͐wé͐ hếā tàn cè͐ kā gānyē ō tāa pwīihî̄ li͐ mébwè̄lè̄.”

Spoken in Africa?

Aha! That's what I wanted you to think. But nay, it ain't.

Posted: **Sat Oct 05, 2024 2:11 am**

Darren wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:29 am Aha! That's what I wanted you to think. But nay, it ain't.

Good to rule it out. Cèmuhî?

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