Zompist Bboard Again

Travis B. wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:10 pm Líu som yí ngá kâ lae b'ub'õk hâe lae anye yí leeu né lae b'ub'õk hâe lae ju bã rẽe yí inye.
/lɨ́ sɔ̄m jí ŋɑ́ kɑ̤ lǣ ɓʊɓɔ̰k hæ̤ lǣ ʔɐɲɛ̄ jí lɘ̄ɘ nɛ́ lǣ ɓʊɓɔ̰k hæ̤ lǣ ɟū bɑ̰ ɾɛ̰ɛ jí ʔɪɲɛ̄/
DIST.S CLASS.idea NEG equal DED COMP COLL-human believe COMP AGT-be.sick NEG exist but COMP COLL-human believe COMP DIST.P CLASS.people FUT.PFV NEG RESULT-be.sick
It is not that people think the virus does not exist but rather that people think they won't get sick.

Nīm wīnachrəthāmpəwēyat, thawiŋkrathampaꞵaksīntham.
/niːm ˈwiːnaɰrəˌɹaːmpəˌweːjat | ˈɹawiˌŋkraɹaˌmpaβakˌsiːnɹam/

|nīm

here

ɨʷ-ꞵiⁿ-riaʷ-krə-tha-mpə-weʷ-iɲat,

3p.O-PL-INT-IRR-INCH-NEG-HAB-sick,

ɨʷ-rəʷ-ꞵiⁿ-krə-tha-mpə-ꞵaksin-tham.|

3p.O-1s.A-PL-INCH-vaccine-is

Here people don’t get sick, so they don’t get the vaccine.

Keda obzhdame dloqhalyaq mgezhax organdzi tuxor. Beksimi da jqishlybe ze aprile tudzampha. Mgaryem ndrashe!
[keˈda obʒˈdame ˈdɫoqχajaʁ ˈmɣeʒax orˈgandzi tuˈxor || bekˈsimi ɾa ˈdʒʁɪʃjβe zaˈprile tudzaˈmpxa || ˈŋgað̠ẽ ˈndraʃe]
Most people here still wear a mask. The vaccine has been available since April. I don't get it!

Nmorthazh qobzhex tudloqa, nmorthazhaq dloqdryoba tunmorcha, gorqaryaq obzhim gorya tuqare sha tujgu el sha rjeldrashe gorya jqagla tuqarya. Nmorthazh zherdubi ndama mga nmazhe, mga tka, nmorthazh mga nde tkaze tunma tashaqo. Mdzasha, buzhi zalduq phamgu, tibigorya qosu -- zherdunmi shxi! Danma lyachiri...
[ˈnmortxaʒ ˈqobʒex tuˈdɫoʁa | ˈnmortxaʒaʁ ˈdɫoʁdð̠oβa tuˈnmortʃa | gorˈʁað̠aʁ obʒĩ goˈð̠a tuˈqare ʃa tuˈdʒgu̩ɫ ʃa ˈrdʒeldraʃe goˈð̠a ˈdʒʁagɫa tuˈqað̠a || ˈnmortxaʒ ʒerˈduβi ˈndama ŋga ˈnmaʒe | ŋga tka | ˈnmortxaʒ ŋga nde ˈtkaze tuˈnma taˈʃaʁo || ˈmdzaʃa | ˈbuʒi ˈzaɫduʁ ˈpxaŋgu | ˈtiβiɣoð̠a ˈqosu | ʒerˈdunmi tuˈʃxi ||| daˈnma ˈjatʃiri]
I would like to get on with my life, but anticipate that it will be a long time yet before events start up again. This is a downside of living in a major metro area.

Anye eun jẽei yí ẽe b'ub'õk kâ ôm lae b'ub'õk ngá ha'anye eun eun touk d'éeik.
/ʔɐɲɛ̄ ʔɘ̄n ɟḛe jí ʔɛ̰ɛ ɓʊɓɔ̰k kɑ̤ ʔɔ̤m lǣ ɓʊɓɔ̰k ŋɑ́ hɐʔɐɲɛ̄ ʔɘ̄n ʔɘ̄n tōk ɗéek
AGT-sick ANTI take NEG DAT COLL-human reason COMP COLL-human EQU PERSON-AGT-sick ANTI ANTI idiotic horrible
The reason people are not getting vaccinated is because people are damn antivaxxers.

Travis B. wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 12:07 am Anye eun jẽei yí ẽe b'ub'õk kâ ôm lae b'ub'õk ngá ha'anye eun eun touk d'éeik.
/ʔɐɲɛ̄ ʔɘ̄n ɟḛe jí ʔɛ̰ɛ ɓʊɓɔ̰k kɑ̤ ʔɔ̤m lǣ ɓʊɓɔ̰k ŋɑ́ hɐʔɐɲɛ̄ ʔɘ̄n ʔɘ̄n tōk ɗéek
AGT-sick ANTI take NEG DAT COLL-human reason COMP COLL-human EQU PERSON-AGT-sick ANTI ANTI idiotic horrible
The reason people are not getting vaccinated is because people are damn antivaxxers.

Qaŋeth mengu tlii fas Esthaalya waq baksiin maag, baasiwitsi AstraZeneca, ŋiisuŋa wamay ŋew.

person many INDEF.PL stand Australia do.IMPF vaccine NEG, 1p=have.PFV-DIM AstraZeneca, 3p=feel ear bad

In Australia, many people won’t get vaccinated, because we only have AstraZeneca, and people have heard bad things about it.

Travis B. wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:05 pm

jal wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:26 amDis a go komfon fo so!
That would be very confusing.

I would have no idea what that meant.

Yu min wen yu go soso luk di Sajiwan?
You mean when you'd only see the Sajiwan?


JAL

Travis B. wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 12:07 amThe reason people are not getting vaccinated is because people are damn antivaxxers.

Dem man u ijat.
People are idiots.


JAL

bradrn wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 12:54 amIn Australia, many people won’t get vaccinated, because we only have AstraZeneca, and people have heard bad things about it.

Fo ray?? De ya minu af Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna an Janssen
Really?? We have Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Modern and Janssen here.


JAL

bradrn wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 12:54 amQaŋeth mengu tlii fas Esthaalya waq baksiin maag, baasiwitsi AstraZeneca, ŋiisuŋa wamay ŋew.

person many INDEF.PL stand Australia do.IMPF vaccine NEG, 1p=have.PFV-DIM AstraZeneca, 3p=feel ear bad

In Australia, many people won’t get vaccinated, because we only have AstraZeneca, and people have heard bad things about it.

Do mohon oož, wel uqqOselyaq, leg ehezzäläk, tob iqqAsatarazenekaq, hem ahažžugal, leg aa, tob ifFaizar.

do

PST

mohon

believe

o=

DEF(c)=

ž

1S

wel

be.location

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DEF(a)=

qOselyaq

Australia

leg

receive

ehe=

NSPC(d)=

zäläk

be.old

tob

change.hands

i=

DEF(e)

qAsatarazenekaq

Astrazeneca

hem

be.topic

aha=

NSPC(b)

žugal

be.young.adult

leg

receive

aa

DEF(b)

tob

change.hands

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Faizar

Pfizer

.
I thought old people were getting Astrazeneca in Australia, but young people were getting Pfizer.

Ha kq'ää?

ha

Q

kq

NEG

ää

DEF(p)

Isn't it so?

Damn, this language is ugly.

Imralu wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 6:42 am

bradrn wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 12:54 amQaŋeth mengu tlii fas Esthaalya waq baksiin maag, baasiwitsi AstraZeneca, ŋiisuŋa wamay ŋew.

person many INDEF.PL stand Australia do.IMPF vaccine NEG, 1p=have.PFV-DIM AstraZeneca, 3p=feel ear bad

In Australia, many people won’t get vaccinated, because we only have AstraZeneca, and people have heard bad things about it.

Do mohon oož, wel uqqOselyaq, leg ehezzäläk, tob iqqAsatarazenekaq, hem ahažžugal, leg aa, tob ifFaizar.

do

PST

mohon

believe

o=

DEF(c)=

ž

1S

wel

be.location

u=

DEF(a)=

qOselyaq

Australia

leg

receive

ehe=

NSPC(d)=

zäläk

be.old

tob

change.hands

i=

DEF(e)

qAsatarazenekaq

Astrazeneca

hem

be.topic

aha=

NSPC(b)

žugal

be.young.adult

leg

receive

aa

DEF(b)

tob

change.hands

i=

DEF(e)=

Faizar

Pfizer

.
I thought old people were getting Astrazeneca in Australia, but young people were getting Pfizer.

Wē yētham.
/weː ˈjeːɹam/
|wē əʷ-rəʷ-pe-tham|
that.MED 3s.O-3s.A-NP-is
That is correct.

Longer explanation for non-Aussies (because my conlangs don’t have the words): We have two vaccines here, Pfizer and AstraZeneca. By a complicated series of events I don’t pretend to understand at all, we have lots more AstraZeneca than we do Pfizer. Thus, Pfizer as the more effective vaccine was prioritised for essential workers etc., while us ordinary people (well, not me, pretty sure I’m too young) could only get AstraZeneca. And this was all well and good, except (a) we don’t actually have COVID-19 here so no-one felt they needed to get vaccinated, and (b) people started to realise that AstraZeneca has some side-effects, and some people have died from it. (Number so far: 2 in Australia, I think.) So, of course, people — especially older people — refused to get vaccinated with AstraZeneca, which at the time was the only vaccine available. Eventually, the government changed the rules: people aged below 50 could get Pfizer if they want, people aged 50 and over could only get AstraZeneca. And this was of course a great move, since it changed everyone aged just over 50 years into anti-AstraZeneca-ers. (‘If the government said AstraZeneca is unsafe if you’re 49, why should it be any different for us at 50?’) And so older people started to refuse to be vaccinated. And just recently, they realised how stupid that decision was — at which point they ‘helpfully’ raised the age threshold to 60. Which of course just meant that people aged 60 and over are now refusing to get vaccinated. So now, people aged below 60 are all getting vaccinated with Pfizer (at this point, somewhat reluctantly, and I don’t blame them), people aged just over 60 are all refusing to get vaccinated, and millions of unused AstraZeneca shots are sitting rotting in a warehouse somewhere.

TL;DR Aussie politicians are idiots, aren‘t they?

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Here in the US we have three vaccines, the Pfizer, the Moderna, and the Johnson & Johnson (the Janssen). Anyone 12 and up can get the Pfizer while anyone 16 and up can get the Moderna and anyone 18 and up can get the Johnson & Johnson. People in government had high hopes for the Johnson & Johnson because it requires only one dose and does not have onerous storage requirements - even though it is less effective than the Pfizer or the Moderna, at ~70% effective rather than ~95% effective - but few actually want it because many heard about side effects (like AstraZeneca) and also major production issues with contamination and like (which have also meant that it is not nearly as available as the politicians would have wanted anyway).

bradrn wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:17 am TL;DR Aussie politicians are idiots, aren‘t they?

Phik hí râ mõ khù ngá bo klak ũ aklak sláe ràe klak ũ phàang aeiu b'ôom yí glá ék kâ.
/pʰīk hí ɾɑ̤ mo̰ kʰù ŋɑ́ bō klɑ̄k ʔṵ ʔɐklɑ̄k slǽ ɾæ̀ klɑ̄k ʔṵ pʰɑ̀ɑŋ ʔǣɨ ɓɔ̤ɔm jí glɑ́ ʔɛ́k kɑ̤/
matter ATTR like PROX.P CLASS.process EQU REASON rule POSS.3S AGT-rule choose or rule POSS.3S kind any be.other NEG like 1S DED
Things like these are why I don't like democracy or any other kind of state.

De Olan, di Janssen cut a nof won don dem yonga, kos yu afa soso wan wan cut steda tu, an yu afa ful bacinecm fi foran swabl.

In the Netherlands, the Janssen vaccination is very popular amongst young people, as you only need a single shot instead of two, and you need to be fully vaccinated in order to travel abroad.


JAL

jal wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:01 am De Olan, di Janssen cut a nof won don dem yonga, kos yu afa soso wan wan cut steda tu, an yu afa ful bacinecm fi foran swabl.

In the Netherlands, the Janssen vaccination is very popular amongst young people, as you only need a single shot instead of two, and you need to be fully vaccinated in order to travel abroad.

Do tsqauš iyYasen leg oož, kavu demon oož tob efFaizar.
PST available DEF(e)=Janssen receive DEF(c)=1S, but choose DEF(c)=1S change.hands DEF(d)=Pfizer.
Janssen was offered to me, but I chose Pfizer.

Any idea on a better way to gloss tob than "change.hands"?

tak = give
tob = be given (accusative passive, i.e. the gift), be transferred, change hands
leg = be given (dative passive, i.e. the recipient), receive

I gloss them as give, change.hands, receive respectively, but "change.hands" can be misunderstood. be.transferred is possible I guess ... just thinking out loud

jal wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:01 am De Olan, di Janssen cut a nof won don dem yonga, kos yu afa soso wan wan cut steda tu, an yu afa ful bacinecm fi foran swabl.

In the Netherlands, the Janssen vaccination is very popular amongst young people, as you only need a single shot instead of two, and you need to be fully vaccinated in order to travel abroad.


JAL

È sa sercomstã mit cualci di mièii ètudiantai isi èle Basse-Tere, car vua dovire due șeptezile aprè sa velissațiõ terminala attendère per com velisso vuito essère.
That's also the case with some of my students here in the Netherlands, because you have to wait two weeks after the last dose to be considered "protected".

Mièin prima velissațiõ passèr sa 1 lugilor, mit un velissațiõ d'asitu caro.
My first dose is on 1 July, with an mRNA vaccine.

Douh enegyore dane ora gau heimed edanun

Douh

PST:ALL

enegyore

dose

da-ne

first

or-a

NZP-1s

gau

ago

heimed

week

ed-an-un

and-NZI-few

I had my first dose just over a week ago

Wen nes de (Cusde), mi a go got fi nesfa cut.
Tomorrow (Tuesday), I'm getting my 2nd shot.


JAL

xxx wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:32 pmI did not vaccinate for myself but for everyone else...

Sem! Mi toc pon Covid-19 [kobit ten-nayn] wen mi osban kac im, an mi in tahn sik, so mi tingk mi in isi kac im.
Same for me. I came into contact with Covid-19 when my wife caught it, and I didn't get sick, so I suspect I'm not very susceptible to it.


JAL

jal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 2:36 am

xxx wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:32 pmI did not vaccinate for myself but for everyone else...

Sem! Mi toc pon Covid-19 [kobit ten-nayn] wen mi osban kac im, an mi in tahn sik, so mi tingk mi in isi kac im.
Same for me. I came into contact with Covid-19 when my wife caught it, and I didn't get sick, so I suspect I'm not very susceptible to it.

Na i zu. Na i vwendwa zyu na i zi mwemwe vindi u za kovidi, mye na i ze ga mu zyu ha i ndwa ha i ze u zye i yu na i zi ze mwe nevwemu wi nyo zyu na i vindi gwe yu na i gizi nevwemu wi u bo mu zyu ha na i za ndidigu wi zi zyu na i nendwe u zwe nggyodi do na i zi ze za.
Same. I think I might have had covid, but I'll never know whether I did or not because I couldn't get tested at the time that I was sick and because I recently had an antibody test, which came back negative.

Wi nyogya zi do na i zodu o lu buvya. Na i zo hi u zwe dyazowe. Wi nyo zyu na i lindwo do i zwani. I ho u lo lu buvya wi nyogya wi zwani.

wi

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nyogya

night

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thus

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walkₐ

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lu

LOCATEDₑ

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forest

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na

1S

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COP

zo

moveₐ

hi

DEMₑ

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ADV

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useₐ

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bus

wi

ADV-COP

nyo

time

zyu

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na

1S

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COP

lindwo

go.outsideₐ

do

thus

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COP

zwani

rain

i

COP

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goodₑ

u

ADV

lo

situation

lu

locatedₑ

buvya

forest

wi

ADV-COP

nyogya

night

wi

ADV-COP

zwani

rain

.
I went for a walk in the forest last night. I went there by bus. When I got off the bus. it was raining. It is nice to be in the forest at nighttime in the rain.