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Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:25 pm
by Space60
How do you pronounce "comfortable"?

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:32 pm
by foxcatdog
Space60 wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:25 pm How do you pronounce "comfortable"?
[kʊmf.təɹ.bʊl]
Sometimes i pronounce it without the *r
(actually i forgot the last syllable is rounded and it rhymes with bull i keep mixing up the two sounds)

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:32 pm
by Travis B.
Space60 wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:25 pm How do you pronounce "comfortable"?
[ˈkʰʌ̃mftʲʁ̩ˤːbɯ(ː)]

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:08 pm
by bradrn
Space60 wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:25 pm How do you pronounce "comfortable"?
[ˈkʰɐmftəbʊw]

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:11 pm
by Space60
foxcatdog wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:32 pm
Space60 wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:25 pm How do you pronounce "comfortable"?
[cʊmf.təɹ.bʊl]
Sometimes i pronounce it without the *r
(actually i forgot the last syllable is rounded and it rhymes with bull i keep mixing up the two sounds)
Did you mean to write [k] there or do you actually use a palatal stop [c] in that word?

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:33 pm
by foxcatdog
Space60 wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:11 pm
foxcatdog wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:32 pm
Space60 wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:25 pm How do you pronounce "comfortable"?
[cʊmf.təɹ.bʊl]
Sometimes i pronounce it without the *r
(actually i forgot the last syllable is rounded and it rhymes with bull i keep mixing up the two sounds)
Did you mean to write [k] there or do you actually use a palatal stop [c] in that word?
gone back and edited the post

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:43 am
by foxcatdog
I have [tɔ:rk] for "talk" it rhymes with "stork" and "stalk"

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:42 am
by bradrn
foxcatdog wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:43 am I have [tɔ:rk] for "talk" it rhymes with "stork" and "stalk"
I have [tˢo̞ːk]; it also rhymes with ‘stork’ and ‘stalk’, which are both [sto̞ːk] for me.

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:37 am
by anteallach
foxcatdog wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:43 am I have [tɔ:rk] for "talk" it rhymes with "stork" and "stalk"
What accent is that, roughly?

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:42 am
by anteallach
Space60 wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:25 pm How do you pronounce "comfortable"?
/ˈkʌmftərbəl/

... where /r/ may be realised as zero or as a slight modification (pharyngealisation?) of the vowel, but I'm confident it's phonemically present in this word. Also, /mf/ in post-stress position (as here) tends to have an intrusive [p], but I don't think I'd analyse there being a /p/ there.

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:14 pm
by Ryusenshi
Space60 wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:25 pm How do you pronounce "comfortable"?
[ˈkʰɐmftəbɫ̩]

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:50 pm
by Space60
anteallach wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:42 am
Space60 wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:25 pm How do you pronounce "comfortable"?
/ˈkʌmftərbəl/

... where /r/ may be realised as zero or as a slight modification (pharyngealisation?) of the vowel, but I'm confident it's phonemically present in this word. Also, /mf/ in post-stress position (as here) tends to have an intrusive [p], but I don't think I'd analyse there being a /p/ there.
I have an intrusive [p] in "hamster". I have often seem people misspell the word as "hampster".

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:53 pm
by Raphael
Space60 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:50 pm
I have an intrusive [p] in "hamster". I have often seem people misspell the word as "hampster".
I've seen that misspelling often enough that for a while, I was seriously confused about what the correct English spelling of the word is.

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:08 pm
by Travis B.
How do you guys pronounce hydrant, as in fire hydrant?

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:13 pm
by Travis B.
Space60 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:50 pm
anteallach wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:42 am
Space60 wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:25 pm How do you pronounce "comfortable"?
/ˈkʌmftərbəl/

... where /r/ may be realised as zero or as a slight modification (pharyngealisation?) of the vowel, but I'm confident it's phonemically present in this word. Also, /mf/ in post-stress position (as here) tends to have an intrusive [p], but I don't think I'd analyse there being a /p/ there.
I have an intrusive [p] in "hamster". I have often seem people misspell the word as "hampster".
I have [p] in hamster but that reflects an underlying /p/, as I pronounce hams as [ˈhɛ̃ːə̯̃ms], i.e. without [p] or [b].

Edit: Corrected hams to include a long vowel, reflecting underlying /z/.

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:33 pm
by Raphael
Travis B. wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:08 pm How do you guys pronounce hydrant, as in fire hydrant?
I suck at IPA, but (when speaking English) it's basically as if I'd say "hi" to someone called "Drent".

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:40 pm
by Travis B.
Raphael wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:33 pm
Travis B. wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:08 pm How do you guys pronounce hydrant, as in fire hydrant?
I suck at IPA, but (when speaking English) it's basically as if I'd say "hi" to someone called "Drent".
I'm particularly wondering about how NAE-speakers pronounce the vowel in the first syllable.

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:33 pm
by foxcatdog
anteallach wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:37 am
foxcatdog wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:43 am I have [tɔ:rk] for "talk" it rhymes with "stork" and "stalk"
What accent is that, roughly?
Had no friends in primary school accent.

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:43 pm
by Space60
Does anyone with Canadian raising have raising in "high chair"? I know that some have raising in "high school".

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:01 pm
by Travis B.
Space60 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:43 pm Does anyone with Canadian raising have raising in "high chair"? I know that some have raising in "high school".
Yep, for both: [ˈhəe̯ˌtʃʰɛ̝(ː)ʁˤ], [ˈhəe̯ˌsku(ː)ʊ̯].