Zompist Bboard Again

Oh, and good luck to people living in India or Pakistan.

And... it's very black.

Did anyone else have the impression that the crowd sounded relatively subdued when Prevost's name was read?

What do those of us who know something about Peru know about him?

Raphael wrote: ↑Thu May 08, 2025 12:47 pm Did anyone else have the impression that the crowd sounded relatively subdued when Prevost's name was read?

Possibly nothing more than "and which one is that again?"?

Well, Wikipedia claims that when Paul VI got elected, the senior cardinal deacon hadn't even finished reading his pre-Papal name before the crowd started applauding. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1963_papal_conclave

So Leo is an Augustinian. Unfortunately, my understanding of Catholic monastic orders doesn't go much farther than "Jesuits do scholarship, Franciscans do social work, and Benedictines do herbs", so I don't know what to make of that.

The left-wing Catholics I follow on Bluesky seem happy; I believe he's expected to follow in Francis' footsteps, more or less.

alice wrote: Possibly nothing more than "and which one is that again?"?

I think so as well. I understand that most cardinals were created (which is apparently the proper word?) by Francis and are relatively unknown.

Ares Land wrote: ↑Fri May 09, 2025 3:17 am The left-wing Catholics I follow on Bluesky seem happy; I believe he's expected to follow in Francis' footsteps, more or less.

It's probably a good sign that he took the name of the author of Rerum Novarum.

Then again, I think I vaguely remember that Francis himself was thought to be more conservative when he first became Pope, so you never know.

Raphael wrote: ↑Fri May 09, 2025 3:26 am Then again, I think I vaguely remember that Francis himself was thought to be more conservative when he first became Pope, so you never know.

I remember hearing that Francis wasn't really that progressive -- and that likewise Benedict XVI wasn't that much of a conservative.

It makes sense that lay people would have a biased view. Most of the pope's activity goes right over our head -- I know the Synod on Synodality is important, but even the name boggles me.

Ares Land wrote: ↑Fri May 09, 2025 4:28 am

I remember hearing that Francis wasn't really that progressive -- and that likewise Benedict XVI wasn't that much of a conservative.

It makes sense that lay people would have a biased view. Most of the pope's activity goes right over our head -- I know the Synod on Synodality is important, but even the name boggles me.

What might be confusing for some people is that, to the limited extent that there is a kind of "official" political position of the Catholic Church, it seems to be basically a kind of "inverted libertarianism" - very conservative on cultural issues, and a little bit left-leaning on economic issues. That might be a bit difficult for some people to wrap their minds around.

Meanwhile, the Indian cricket Premier League has been suspended. That doesn't tell us anything good about where things on the subcontinent are headed.

Raphael wrote: ↑Thu May 08, 2025 12:47 pm
What do those of us who know something about Peru know about him?

More than a day and no replies?

Ares Land wrote: ↑Fri May 09, 2025 3:17 am most cardinals were created (which is apparently the proper word?)

I would suggest "reddened". Or, given the etymological meaning 'like a hinge', "hinged." Then an excommunicated cardinal would be "unhinged."

Wait - did the Trump Administration just manage it to actually get something good done? What little I've heard so far makes me seriously curious about what I and the world in general haven't heard yet. (Posted here instead of in the US politics thread because it is, after all, about South Asia.)

zompist wrote: ↑Fri May 09, 2025 3:57 pm

Ares Land wrote: ↑Fri May 09, 2025 3:17 am most cardinals were created (which is apparently the proper word?)

I would suggest "reddened". Or, given the etymological meaning 'like a hinge', "hinged." Then an excommunicated cardinal would be "unhinged."

Flawless logic!

Raphael wrote: ↑Sat May 10, 2025 7:36 am Wait - did the Trump Administration just manage it to actually get something good done? What little I've heard so far makes me seriously curious about what I and the world in general haven't heard yet. (Posted here instead of in the US politics thread because it is, after all, about South Asia.)

What happened? I didn't see anything like that in the news.

Ares Land wrote: ↑Sat May 10, 2025 2:14 pm

Raphael wrote: ↑Sat May 10, 2025 7:36 am Wait - did the Trump Administration just manage it to actually get something good done? What little I've heard so far makes me seriously curious about what I and the world in general haven't heard yet. (Posted here instead of in the US politics thread because it is, after all, about South Asia.)

What happened? I didn't see anything like that in the news.

I mean the supposed ceasefire between India and Pakistan - though there are already many accusations of violations, so we don't know where things are headed - which was apparently partly worked out by the Trump Administration.

rotting bones wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 6:37 am Yes, it's weird that every so-called "intellectual" the CIA pushes on us suddenly loves traditional values. I'm amazed they thought that would work. This is what I mean when I say everyone is literally Hitler. It seems like we have to ignore the entirety of civilization and think independently.

Ignoring the entirety of civilization would be tabula rasa, that Musk and co want also so not necessarily as good or as left-wing it may seem.