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"Plenty" is an understatement; when I was in short trousers there was also grind, core, and speed metal, to name but three. Surely someone somewhere has make an exhaustive family tree or something.doctor shark wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 1:27 pm Not inherently: gothic metal is an offshoot of gothic rock, and there are plenty of other kinds of metal. (Death, doom, thrash, glam, folk, symphonic...)
But aren't most of them, in different ways, very dark and gloomy?alice wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:02 pm"Plenty" is an understatement; when I was in short trousers there was also grind, core, and speed metal, to name but three. Surely someone somewhere has make an exhaustive family tree or something.doctor shark wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 1:27 pm Not inherently: gothic metal is an offshoot of gothic rock, and there are plenty of other kinds of metal. (Death, doom, thrash, glam, folk, symphonic...)
Many are, but many aren't. You seem to know nothing about metal music.Raphael wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:06 pmBut aren't most of them, in different ways, very dark and gloomy?alice wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:02 pm"Plenty" is an understatement; when I was in short trousers there was also grind, core, and speed metal, to name but three. Surely someone somewhere has make an exhaustive family tree or something.doctor shark wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 1:27 pm Not inherently: gothic metal is an offshoot of gothic rock, and there are plenty of other kinds of metal. (Death, doom, thrash, glam, folk, symphonic...)
Not really. There's the current wave of (disparagingly, but the only real term that exists) "hipster black metal" that takes inspiration from outside genres like shoegaze and American minimalism - Liturgy, Alcest, Trhä, etc. - and "black'n'roll" bands like Kvelertak. Then there are EDM-influenced / "pop metal" bands (afaik mostly from Eastern Europe until recently) like Chysta Krynycya, Semargl (which started as death metal, released some pop albums, and is now EDM), and Vapor Hiemis - and that's just within black metal! (Except Kvelertak - "is Kvelertak metal?" translates "emacs or vim?".) There's also power metal, like Machinae Supremacy and Dragonforce, and so on.Raphael wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:06 pmBut aren't most of them, in different ways, very dark and gloomy?alice wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:02 pm"Plenty" is an understatement; when I was in short trousers there was also grind, core, and speed metal, to name but three. Surely someone somewhere has make an exhaustive family tree or something.doctor shark wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 1:27 pm Not inherently: gothic metal is an offshoot of gothic rock, and there are plenty of other kinds of metal. (Death, doom, thrash, glam, folk, symphonic...)
Ah, thank you.Nortaneous wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 5:57 pm
Although splitting hairs about culture tags is always a dubious endeavor, "gothic" doesn't own "dark and gloomy". "Gothic metal", to the extent that it means anything (which is not a large extent even by microgenre standards), means "metal reminiscent of other gothic music" - which could be as much about image as anything else.
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Is Old Albic stress-timed, and how strong is the stress accent in it? If Old Albic is stress-timed and has a strong stress accent shortening unaccented long vowels makes sense, but if it were, say, mora-timed that would not make sense.WeepingElf wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 11:17 am I have gotten rid of a number of problems in Old Albic by removing a phonological rule. That rule shortened unaccented long vowels, and it made more trouble than sense. When I realized that neither such languages as Latin or Greek, nor Quenya have such a rule, I wondered why Old Albic should have it, and abandoned it. Wow!
Ich freue mich darüber or Ich freu' mich darüber are fine. Other possibilities would be Das freut mich, Das freut mich sehr, or Das freut mich wirklich sehr.
Vielen dank! Ich habe vergessen, dass das Subjekt von freuen nicht nur eine Person sein kann.
Ich bin mit Das freut mich bekannt, aber ich hatte von Ich freue mich darüber nicht gewusst.Lērisama wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 12:36 pmVielen dank! Ich habe vergessen, dass das Subjekt von freuen nicht nur eine Person sein kann.
OK, now I'm completely confused about things I've known and done and said for my whole life. How on Earth does any of this make sense? How could I ever manage it to figure out and memorize and get used to this stuff?
Do natlangs ever truly "make sense" at the end of the day?
Well, they usually feel like they make perfect sense if you've used them for your entire life. Until you start seriously thinking about them. At which point you might well stop understanding how they could ever have made sense to you.
I never got this "stress-timed"/"syllable-timed"/"mora-timed" thing, but the Old Albic accent rule is essentially the same as in Latin, and as the Latin accent rule is essentially "the penultimate mora before the last syllable gets the accent", I guess it is mora-timed, but I don't know.Travis B. wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 11:52 amIs Old Albic stress-timed, and how strong is the stress accent in it? If Old Albic is stress-timed and has a strong stress accent shortening unaccented long vowels makes sense, but if it were, say, mora-timed that would not make sense.WeepingElf wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 11:17 am I have gotten rid of a number of problems in Old Albic by removing a phonological rule. That rule shortened unaccented long vowels, and it made more trouble than sense. When I realized that neither such languages as Latin or Greek, nor Quenya have such a rule, I wondered why Old Albic should have it, and abandoned it. Wow!