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Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:05 pm
by Nortaneous
Central Sudanic?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:11 pm
by Karch
Nortaneous wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:05 pm Central Sudanic?
Yes.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:29 pm
by Nortaneous
Bongo-Bagirmi?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:32 pm
by Karch
Nortaneous wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:29 pm Bongo-Bagirmi?
No.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:43 pm
by Darren
Kresh?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:47 pm
by Karch
Darren wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:43 pmKresh?
Yes. How did you know?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:41 pm
by Darren
Karch wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:47 pm
Darren wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:43 pmKresh?
Yes. How did you know?
Once Nort had conveniently eliminated the largest branch of CSudanic, I browsed through the remaining smaller branches until I found one with implosives and labio-velar stops, then checked out the OLAC resources page, and as soon as I saw "Ádá ãpá ká ádá gäshá glĕshë áshá" I knew I was onto it.

Next:
Okoo yuwa okoo me ee kaa taa peetaa. Kuwa bedo wiya ekea paaya peneata ayaa yiba dakameaweeyu. Kopaa mumo to kaa kaawaa wiya toko… inii nakaayoo ee epoo bagee yuwa too omegee. Uudee kaa abagayamoo. Piya uguu badedoota peegi. Menaamee gapinetaaki. Toomoo daba peegi. Bedaa egaa wiya miya omemaata kisee aaebaa-ebaa taaka too Doge me deegi naaki Pena-pena yagaa da miya agoo. “Ei, aa kaasee ukuwaanege? Yagaa miya agoo kadeegao” asigi. “Ei, mikee” asega.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:58 pm
by Karch
Ekari?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 9:05 pm
by Creyeditor
It really looks like Ekagi.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 9:16 pm
by Darren
Well it ain't

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 9:23 pm
by Karch
Auye then. (But it really looks like Ekari, just with <s>.)

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 9:40 pm
by Darren
Yeah I shouldn't of chosen a language so closely related to a widely known one

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:31 pm
by Karch
Darren wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 9:40 pm Yeah I shouldn't of chosen a language so closely related to a widely known one
Yeah. I have a hunch that Auye is most closely related with Ekari (and that Wolani, which is usually cited as subgrouping with Ekari, is more distantly related to both), but confirming would need a proper look at the data, thankfully we now have a vocabulary and some glossed texts available so it should be doable (and I might try doing it). I'll post a new text tomorrow.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:46 am
by Karch
Malǝt wob yilang a yǝi Bapyi pang nɨmkaamǝt, shokgu tɨnna bǝi ɗyeemkɨnǝt am pang kǝrok kaam mwanas. Nyinnya dang ɓɨlǝm gyot bǝikyim nyinnya gwa ma yisɨm ko pang zhakɨzhei, Shok gu pang go'os pi dangki name Kyakng bi yisɨmas. Kwanang lwaanas a nɨ pyi mǝigu ma kwartawu, a bǝikyim da bǝikyim. Tɨ pi dang kiye mɨ amsigas; tɨ langsar mǝiguye maa oskaam a kɨn ɗyeemong malosɨnu. Tɨ su nɨ mǝi gung na am bi ta'abosɨn nat mangin tɨ os mǝi kǝrkaam a pyi. Tɨ leug'om mǝi kum kusum mɨ pungnungki nat mangin tɨ ɓwas mǝi nywai naan amsi gunglung.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:00 pm
by Nortaneous
Chadic. Not Biu-Mandara. No lateral fricatives, /f/, or prenasalization. Seven vowels. <nyw-> and <-kng>. Boghom?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:27 pm
by Creyeditor
Karch wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 9:23 pm Auye then. (But it really looks like Ekari, just with <s>.)
There are actually dialects of Mee (as the speakers call it) with /s/ (usually derived from /t/ before , IIRC).

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:44 pm
by Karch
Nortaneous wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:00 pm Chadic. Not Biu-Mandara. No lateral fricatives, /f/, or prenasalization. Seven vowels. <nyw-> and <-kng>. Boghom?
Damn. Yeah, Boghom. (How? I didn't manage to find anything else than this Bible translation, though I didn't look far enough.)

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:57 pm
by Nortaneous
Karch wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:44 pm
Nortaneous wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:00 pm Chadic. Not Biu-Mandara. No lateral fricatives, /f/, or prenasalization. Seven vowels. <nyw-> and <-kng>. Boghom?
Damn. Yeah, Boghom. (How? I didn't manage to find anything else than this Bible translation, though I didn't look far enough.)
Wordlist, Ctrl+F <nyw>. Are there Boghom materials on Glottolog? Not really. Is there a Bible translation? Yes. There were a lot of dead ends and I spent an hour or two convincing myself it wasn't Biu-Mandara.

New text in a bit.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2024 2:10 pm
by Nortaneous
Bïraþe i þai don,
aw i ngahn na sed, i øsï lad.
Ug ørrïm ji ngéðamajalgt kï kiyaðøø loi.

Bïraþe, ad jii ug ørrïm ji degt kï ngéðamajal.
Gaj lod i døningt lon ndïn ne kï død dõ koon.
I ðoosï kamd kï nyag loi kïmbõ kïnat,
kïtakad kam ngandg nden,
na kï nyan ndega mad kïta ngandg kïdu tø.

Na mî taa, m'a m'oo takumi kïgo denesewt lom,
lon m'ndool'n a ne, kamm a so kïber kïta m'a m'oo roi.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2024 2:58 pm
by Darren
I have no idea.