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jal wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:09 am

Dē Graut Bʉr wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:33 amThis language has Dutch loanwords.

Way Finis go af Olandes boro wo-dem?
Why would Finnish have Dutch loan words?

Vinlantikkutunalluu pitaasisinnuu Hiirikkutamaarnusi iqamaasullariva.
It's not Finnish, and it has Dutch loanwords because I want it to.

Quieu êt-il?
[kjøːw͜ ɛːt̪͜ il̪]
What is it?

Pitaasikkutunavi a priori Irrisikkummagut oqaartumillitsimannuu.
It is an a priori language inspired by Greenlandic.

Wilarom dimon an sidor.

wi-larom

1.OBL-pleasant

dimon

language

an

that

si-dor

that-VI

I like that language.

Mimse an wattaissan dokkon Greenlandic

mimse

should

an

that

wa-t-taiss-an

1-VII-read-begin

do-kkon

VI-around

Greenlandic

Greenlandic

I should read up on Greenlandic.

Ŋávé hèntǿgánò. Vògúbú Víhá mòzè.
language SAP.A-conjure-EGO-NFUT || name PN NSAP.POSS-NFUT
I made a new language. It's called Viha.

nihatse
nice-seem
It seems nice.

Moi ausschi, sauque les lettres di sons non me plaisoit.
[mo̯ɛː oː'ʃi | 's̪oː.kə l̪ɛ lɛ.t̪r̪əz̪ di s̪õːz̪ nõː mɛ pl̪ɛː'z̪o̯ɛːt̪]
"Me, too, except I don't like the phonetic letters (that is, I don't like IPA in Romanisations or orthographies)."

Min latse doqassem minyâm âsi dopâm nondim, an dimon, lasim wachoe an ŋ, an ŋg?

min

and

latse

what.if

do-qass-em

VI-different-DUAL

miny-âm

half-V

â-si

V-with

dop-âm

full-V

nondim

nasal

an

that

dimon

language

/

lasim

how

wach-o-e

PRF\write-SUBJ-DUAL

an

that

ŋ

ŋ

an

that

ŋg

ŋg

But what if the language distinguishes nasals and prenasalized stops? How do you write ŋ and ŋg?

Na sa gretingim mecisim IPA.
not be-3SG:P letter-PL great-CMP-PL IPA(-LOC)
'There are no capital letters in the IPA.'

Brycisi ng chva ngg.
use-SBJ-2SG:A-PRS ng and ngg
'You may use ng and ngg.'

Damesi i Elbi am samam sí gratamesi gretingimis Letinimis.
do-1PL:A-PRS the-AGT Elves-AGT the-OBJ same-OBJ when write-1PL:A-PRS letter-PL-GEN Latin-PL-GEN
'We Elves do the same when we write in Latin letters.'

Ares Land wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:28 am Min latse doqassem minyâm âsi dopâm nondim, an dimon, lasim wachoe an ŋ, an ŋg?

min

and

latse

what.if

do-qass-em

VI-different-DUAL

miny-âm

half-V

â-si

V-with

dop-âm

full-V

nondim

nasal

an

that

dimon

language

/

lasim

how

wach-o-e

PRF\write-SUBJ-DUAL

an

that

ŋ

ŋ

an

that

ŋg

ŋg

But what if the language distinguishes nasals and prenasalized stops? How do you write ŋ and ŋg?

Y ausschi des arrez voicées?
[i oː'ʃi d̪ɛz̪͜ a.ɾ̪ɛs̪ vo̯a's̪eːz̪]
And also from voiced stops?

WeepingElf wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:31 am Na sa gretingim mecisim IPA.
not be-3SG:P letter-PL great-CMP-PL IPA(-LOC)
'There are no capital letters in the IPA.'

Brycisi ng chva ngg.
use-SBJ-2SG:A-PRS ng and ngg
'You may use ng and ngg.'

Damesi i Elbi am samam sí gratamesi gretingimis Letinimis.
do-1PL:A-PRS the-AGT Elves-AGT the-OBJ same-OBJ when write-1PL:A-PRS letter-PL-GEN Latin-PL-GEN
'We Elves do the same when we write in Latin letters.'

Comeint prononcie l'om cette lenve?
[kɔ'mɛ̃ː pɾ̪ɔ.n̪õː's̪iː lõː 'sɛ.t̪ə l̪ɛ̃ːv]
"How does one pronounce this language?"

(Sorry for the English but:)

This is a preliminary version of a revision of Old Albic which is currently under construction. What is said about its pronunciation on this page still is and will remain valid.

C'êt une plaisissaunte lenve. C'êt trés...
[s̪ɛːt̪͜ y.n̪ə plɛː.zi'sõː.t̪ə lɛ̃ːv | s̪ɛː t̪ɾ̪eː]
"That's a nice language. It's very..."

Non y êt mot qui veut dissir « Elvish » en Cocori.
[n̪õːn̪͜ ij͜ ɛː moː ki vøː d̪i's̪iɾ̪ | ɛl̪'viʃ | ãː ko.ko'ɾ̪i]
"There isn't a good word for "Elvish" in Kokori."

L'om puît dissir « Jaunton » , mais c'êt une jaundre d'homien saunméschure férien.
[l̪õː pɥiː d̪i's̪iɾ̪ | ʒõː't̪õː | mɛː s̪ɛːtʃ͜ y.n̪ə ʒõː.d̪ɾ̪ə d̪ɔ'mjɛ̃ː sõː.me'ʃy.ɾ̪ə feː'ɾ̪jɛ̃ː]
"One might say Jaunton, but that's a sort of enormous supernatural humanoid."

Puisserre « Férien » , mais c'êt auschi huien sêres sauns côrs ou sauns voir.
[pɥi'sæɾ̪ | feː'ɾ̪jɛ̃ː | mɛː s̪ɛːt̪͜ oː'ʃi ɥɛ̃ː s̪ɛː.ɾ̪əz̪ sõː koːɾ̪z̪. uː sõː vo̯æːɾ̪]
"Or maybe Férien, but that's also used for an invisible or a disembodied being."

Li mot « fée » y « eûrit » auschi.
[l̪i moː | feː | i | øː'ɾ̪i oː'ʃi]
"The words fée and eûrit, too."

Thank you! The "Elves" who speak Old Albic are ordinary humans, though.

Me souvieng, mais jeu cherquève même une telle mot
[mɛ s̪uː'vjɛ̃ĩ | mɛː ʒøː ʃæɾ̪'kɛː.və mɛːm͜ y.n̪ə t̪ɛ.l̪ə moː]
"I recall, but I was looking for a word anyway."

éhìvì dòzéhà
scratch NSAP-temporary-NFUT
The orthography is temporary.
(In-world, Viha is unwritten, though they are familiar with writing, since the language of a nearby civilization is written - most of the inscriptions are carved into stone or wood, hence the strange semantic extension.)

Le voi.
[l̪ɛ vo̯aː]
"I see."

« Gratier » êt une source comune di mot qui veuleint dissir « écrivir » .
[gɾ̪a'tjæɾ̪ | ɛːtʃ͜ y.n̪ə 's̪uːɾ̪.s̪ə kɔ'my.n̪ə d̪i moː ki vøː'l̪ɛ̃ː d̪i's̪iɾ̪ eː.kɾ̪i'viɾ̪]
"'Scratch' is a common etymon for words meaning 'write'."

En Fouréin₁, li motz « kaku » at eine telle source.
[ãː fuː.r̪eː'jɛ̃ː | l̪i moːs̪ | ká.kɯ̀ᵝ | at̪͜ ɛː.n̪ə t̪ɛ.l̪ə s̪uːɾ̪.s̪ə]
"In Japanese, the word 'kaku' has a similar source."

Note 1: "Fouré" (Japan) is a hypothetical form, from an Ineshîmé reading of 日本「びれ」Fure, which is clearly not cognate with the Japanese form Nihon, Nippon, composed of Sino-Japanese elements. The word for "Japonic" as a language family is Tinassois or Tinassien, from a name used to refer to some predecessors of Ineshîmé.

Stokbroodiput Japanipullugu imagappullugu pitaasikkussaagut maragaatsimaa?
Is your language spoken in France, Japan or somewhere else?

Daunt muint de fauntaisie.
[dõː mɥɛ̃ːt̪ d̪ɛ fõː.t̪ɛː'z̪iː]
"In a fantasy world."

Daunque non Frauncie ni Fouré y êt.
['dõː.kə nõː fɾ̪õː'siː n̪i fuː'ɾ̪eː y ɛːt̪]
"In which neither France nor Japan exists."

Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:06 am"In a fantasy world."

Oba fantasi Ahs? Nes so semnis a Fwans langwic go kweya.
But a fantasy Earth? Otherwise such a similarity to France would be odd.


JAL

Non, c'êt qu'ai meau crieint lenves d'au rien.
[n̪õː | s̪ɛː kɛː moː cɾ̪i'jɛ̃ːt̪ 'lɛ̃ː.vəz̪ d̪oː ɾ̪jɛ̃ː]
"No, it's just that I have trouble making à priori languages."

C'êt puissere étraunge, mais même le fâz.
[s̪ɛː pɥi'sɛːɾ̪͜ eː.'t̪ɾ̪õː.ʒə | mɛː mɛː.mə l̪ɛ fɑːs̪]
"It may be strange, but I do it anyway."