Zompist Bboard Again

Travis B. wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:11 pm On that count anything that is a "distraction" from teh Cause ought to be deprecated, including things like conlanging.

I have said before that Badiou thinks people touch the absolute through science, politics, art and love.

I don't think that comprehensive or necessarily true, but it's closer to a statement of the meaning of life than anything I've seen in religious texts. I honestly don't see what people find valuable in most religious texts. It's all a bunch of bullshit symbolism. Why study that when there is so much meaningful symbolism in Computer Science?

People who are interested in the meaning of life should research the P=NP problem.

Computer science is a source of universal truth in a way that no religion is. For instance the proof that there is a large set of problems that simply cannot be solved in all cases, e.g. anything equivalent to the halting problem.

art is the opposite of a distraction,
it's an individual way of understanding the world...

Marxism is a millennialism that led to totalitarianism,
the worst defect of a religion when it forgets human for dogma...

computer science is the absolute distraction
of abandoning one's humanity to automatic processing
for a totalitarianism without humanity...

bradrn wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 4:47 am

Travis B. wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 4:36 am xxx: On another note, can you write, well, like the rest of us here? Your posts are very difficult to read, and I know you probably are not a native English-speaker, but there are a good number of non-native English speakers here, and they (other than you) don't write in such a cryptic style, and their posts are actually very understandable.

I’m pretty sure we’ve asked him this before.

xxx, why do you split your texts into such short lines? Is it because of your browser? My posts used to suffer that way when I used a TV screen for writing posts, and it didn't have any way I knew of for entering multi-line paragraphs that would rejustify automatically. They looked ugly and were hard to read when viewed on a normal screen.

Now, when writing in an 80-column format, such as a plain text file, I do try to keep phrases together because I have read that that makes texts easier to understand, but I don't believe that works for very short lines. On the other hand, text composed of lines that have to be scrolled is also practically unreadable.

Richard W wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 4:35 am

bradrn wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 4:47 am

Travis B. wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 4:36 am xxx: On another note, can you write, well, like the rest of us here? Your posts are very difficult to read, and I know you probably are not a native English-speaker, but there are a good number of non-native English speakers here, and they (other than you) don't write in such a cryptic style, and their posts are actually very understandable.

I’m pretty sure we’ve asked him this before.

xxx, why do you split your texts into such short lines? Is it because of your browser? My posts used to suffer that way when I used a TV screen for writing posts, and it didn't have any way I knew of for entering multi-line paragraphs that would rejustify automatically. They looked ugly and were hard to read when viewed on a normal screen.

Now, when writing in an 80-column format, such as a plain text file, I do try to keep phrases together because I have read that that makes texts easier to understand, but I don't believe that works for very short lines. On the other hand, text composed of lines that have to be scrolled is also practically unreadable.

I suspect xxx thinks it's artistic or deeply meaningful or erudite or something.

thank you for allowing me to use this little mystery
as a starting point for posing as an organizer...
the content is constrained by the form,
which in turn, when changed, modifies the content,
that's precisely the main pleasure of conlanging...

Raphael wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 4:37 amI suspect xxx thinks it's artistic or deeply meaningful or erudite or something.

Yeah...it ain't though.

I have a tendency,
to do things for myself,
without any specific motives,
and then let them drift,
and repeat them,
to see where they take me...

masako wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 7:38 am

Raphael wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 4:37 amI suspect xxx thinks it's artistic or deeply meaningful or erudite or something.

Yeah...it ain't though.

Unfortunately, I have to agree. I tend to just skip xxx's posts if I can't read them smoothly from the get-go. I don't feel like deciphering meanings and intentions from what I assume is poetry of sorts.

sorry to hear that,
but it's the right choice,
there is certainly a lot of scoria in my words,
not only because of my bad English,
as in deductive conlang,
I advance by enigma,
and for poetry, well very odd then....

bradrn wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 4:47 am

Travis B. wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 4:36 am xxx: On another note, can you write, well, like the rest of us here? Your posts are very difficult to read, and I know you probably are not a native English-speaker, but there are a good number of non-native English speakers here, and they (other than you) don't write in such a cryptic style, and their posts are actually very understandable.

I’m pretty sure we’ve asked him this before.

I find his writing style has stayed the same but his discourse has worsened.

Ares Land wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:14 am Immigrants find their place just find in French society; they're actually pretty well 'assimilated'.
As for the dangers of Islamism and the political use of Islam, I will be convinced when people show me the results of the Shari'ah party in the European elections. Where was the 'political Islam' list in there? On the other hand, yes, fascists lists got 40% of the vote so I'm a great deal more afraid of fascists than I'm afraid of immigrants.

Indeed, in the 2024 European elections, the Union des démocrates musulmans français ran on platform of not Islamism but Free Palestine. They won a total of 0.06% of the vote, less than half of what they got in 2019. They ended up 20th. Le Pen will more likely become president, Asselineau will more likely remove France from the EU and the oceans more likely boil over than Islamists take over France.

It's more or less the same everywhere: people get all riled up that immigrants are going to vote differently and in a way they don't like, but mostly as a justification for them already being riled up that darker immigrants are there in the first place. no one ever goes "all these argentinian immigrants are going to change the way this country votes", or "all those americans coming here might start voting for using toes per fortnight".

MacAnDàil wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2024 10:31 am Indeed, in the 2024 European elections, the Union des démocrates musulmans français ran on platform of not Islamism but Free Palestine. They won a total of 0.06% of the vote, less than half of what they got in 2019. They ended up 20th.

nobody thinks,
not even the islamo-leftists,
of a democratic rise of political islam,
otherwise known as islamism...
but rather this way

MacAnDàil wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2024 10:31 am Le Pen will more likely become president, Asselineau will more likely remove France from the EU and the oceans more likely boil over than Islamists take over France.

may God hear you,
on the impossible rise
of the islamo-leftist
sorcerer's apprentice
of the great replacement,
euphemistically renamed
creolisation......

xxx wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:54 am
on the impossible rise
of the islamo-leftist
sorcerer's apprentice
of the great replacement,
euphemistically renamed
creolisation......

Oh, a pseudo-intellectual technophobe who thinks people should willingly submit to oppressive traditions and claims everything a lot of other people like is "addictive" is also into Great Replacement nonsense. How surprising.

it is the pseudo-intellectuals of the leftwing,
instrumentalised by the neo-liberal internationalism that feeds them,
who promote decolonialism,
and the forced displacement of exsanguinated decolonised populations,
as a good,
including for their own populations,
demeaned their millennia-old cultures,
promoting a creolised future,
prefering imported customs,
while stigmatizing cultural appropriation,
in a suicidal double bind...

As for me,
in the same way that I add con-languages and con-world to the world,
I would like to see the possibility of a land for each culture,
with each culture developing in its own way,
rather than having its land torn away from it,
a world language imposed on it,
and everyone downgraded,
except an oligarchy which,
for the sake of one more jet,
or one more luxurious penthouse,
is prepared to scrap the whole world,
and its entire population with...

Raphael wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:28 am

xxx wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:54 am
on the impossible rise
of the islamo-leftist
sorcerer's apprentice
of the great replacement,
euphemistically renamed
creolisation......

Oh, a pseudo-intellectual technophobe who thinks people should willingly submit to oppressive traditions and claims everything a lot of other people like is "addictive" is also into Great Replacement nonsense. How surprising.

Shocking revelation that someone so often incoherent would subscribe to such nonsense, huh?

Though I can't generally follow what xxx is on about, let me be clear: "great replacement" fearmonging is not welcome here; cut that shit out. And if you want to rant about Muslim immigrants, do that elsewhere.

I certainly don't carry the banner of the Great Replacement,
either as a repellent in the manner of the far right,
or as a reservoir of voters like the leftists...

I just disapprove of the modern leftwing double thought of progress,
which favorise globalization,
at the expense of populations thrown against each other,
and the planet thrown down...

The Great Replacement is nothing
more than the destiny of all civilisations,
don't be afraid of words...

After being Neanderthal, Europe was Cro-Magnon,
then perhaps Basque, then Celtic, then Roman, then Germano-Slavic,
then partly Arab, then Christian...
the same is true of most parts of the world...

xxx wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 11:56 pm After being Neanderthal, Europe was Cro-Magnon,
then perhaps Basque, then Celtic, then Roman, then Germano-Slavic,
then partly Arab, then Christian...
the same is true of most parts of the world...

Lol, wut?

You're conflating species, race (a questionable classification, at best), religious affiliation, and nationality. All in one paragraph. Wow. Quite an accomplishment.

I'm talking about civilizations,
each term (except perhaps pre-indoeuropean Basque ; )
can be used for a typical European civilization...

America, given its very recent history,
is less typical of these great replacements...