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Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:29 pm
by Nortaneous
Darren wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:19 am
That looks weirdly like English for some reason. But I imagine it's probably something Tibetic?
No.
Raholeun wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:58 am
Is it spoken in Mexico?
No.
Karch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:00 am
What the fuck. Spoken in the Americas?
No.
Travis B. wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:23 am
My initial thought was "is this Tibeto-Burman?".
No.
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:32 pm
by Karch
Is the source you took the sample from written after 1970?
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:36 pm
by Nortaneous
Karch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:32 pm
Is the source you took the sample from written after 1970?
Yes.
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:40 pm
by Karch
Spoken in Africa?
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:41 pm
by Nortaneous
Karch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:40 pmSpoken in Africa?
No.
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:43 pm
by Karch
Spoken in India?
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:49 pm
by Nortaneous
Karch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:43 pmSpoken in India?
No.
Longer text (with a few typos fixed - the text was originally given in IPA, but the source gives orthographic information)
Vethdz na vethdz i putk'u vethdz. (Wazondafo? - Ea-ea.) Putk'uan haroi peec vethdz. I math' i reez haroi peec az ched nak'tizd. (Tom cagha sethj?) Az ched nak'tedzin hee tedzin, tedzin hee leaureau dethd i pa ther tizd. Dzeeleau dethd i pa ther tizd. Sar i dzeeleau dethd i pa ther. Tar haroi ther dithin tedzin doth. Tid az zabu kiwi rang ghirsin at ghirsin at ghirsin at i peec az wef i jom vreid. (Jom wazon nei? - Ea-ea. - K'ac brok'tichuz.) Di joman di hosiat ceiz? Levd, waht kpa di dzom i k'ac zozd meaug'jenj halg ar ghov ca wethd tik chi peth seaud. (Carang dzom? Yad iw seeto?) Iweau yur peec tizd at tizd at tizd at i jui yothd iko i k'teer aleej. (E? - I k'teer.) I k'teer kdos theest thid at thid at thid at ak'teer viyuid. Ak'teer viyuid hee k'teer hee az jui indezd hee tizd.
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:53 pm
by Karch
Wait. Sarikoli?
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 5:03 pm
by Nortaneous
Karch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:53 pmWait. Sarikoli?
Yes. How? Neikrumon Ibrukhim's orthography isn't listed on Wikipedia.
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 5:16 pm
by Karch
Nortaneous wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 5:03 pm
Karch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:53 pmWait. Sarikoli?
Yes. How? Neikrumon Ibrukhim's orthography isn't listed on Wikipedia.
I skimmed Kim's "Topics in the syntax of Sarikoli" a while ago, and remembered enough of the orthography (namely the existence of <ee> and <eau>) to have an epiphany: it looked weird enough but it was the only option left, and wasn't the word for Nowruz something like "neaureez"?
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 8:57 pm
by Nortaneous
It's one of the example texts from Kim. I thought the preponderance of final coronals - especially -st -zd - would give it away as Iranian.
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 12:57 am
by Darren
Ah damn I almost guessed Indo-European, it did have that kind of a vibe about it, but then I was like, this has consonant clusters and Nort's involved, it must be Tibetic.
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 7:21 am
by Karch
mahawɨtuhɨ rituʔamari mahawɨtʃi. hitʃaʔu noʔaʔatʃiniʔa? nonʔama ahɨrɨ́ nɨmɨʔapira. runaʔaputʃiheʔano. aanoyanapirama pɨmɨtimɨʔani. piníímano napuʔapiratʃini. huiniputʃimari hipuʔã. aanaʋayíímari.
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 2:38 pm
by Darren
That looks so South American. Is it Cariban?
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 2:48 pm
by Karch
Darren wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 2:38 pm
That looks so South American. Is it Cariban?
It is South American, but not Cariban.
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:01 pm
by Skookum
Tupian?
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:23 pm
by Karch
Skookum wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:01 pmTupian?
No.
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:20 pm
by bradrn
Jê?
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2024 1:58 am
by Darren
Core Jê specifically?
Re: Name That Language!
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2024 1:29 pm
by Karch
bradrn wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:20 pmJê?
No.