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Re: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:51 am
by Space60
Meeriam-Webster online and dictionary.com only list [hu:pIN] cough for "whooping cough", but if I were to say it out loud (which I never do) I would say [wUpIN] cough. "Whooping cough" is rarely said out loud these days which is likely why it is prone to spelling pronunciation and analogy of "whoops!".
Re: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 10:01 am
by Travis B.
I am used to whooping cough being a disease you have to vaccinate your kids against lest they be infected by the antivaxxers' kids.
Re: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:08 pm
by Space60
I personally can't remember ever hearing "whooping cough" said out loud. I rarely even see it written.
Re: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:21 pm
by Space60
Travis B. wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:26 am
As for
clothes, for me this has [s], underlying /z/ (preceding long vowel, voices before another vowel), and pronouncing it with [θs], underlying /ðz/, is a clear spelling pronunciation to me.
I pronounce "clothes" like the verb "close" unless it is a verb as in "it clothes me" where I would include a "th" sound. The verb usage is rare however.
Re: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:44 pm
by Travis B.
Space60 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:21 pm
Travis B. wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:26 am
As for
clothes, for me this has [s], underlying /z/ (preceding long vowel, voices before another vowel), and pronouncing it with [θs], underlying /ðz/, is a clear spelling pronunciation to me.
I pronounce "clothes" like the verb "close" unless it is a verb as in "it clothes me" where I would include a "th" sound. The verb usage is rare however.
I am similar in that I pronounce the verb
clothe in the pres. 3rd sg. with [θs], underlying /ðz/.