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Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 11:42 am
by Frislander
Uto-Aztecan?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 11:48 am
by Karch
Yes.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 11:53 am
by Frislander
Guarijio?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 12:00 pm
by Karch
No.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 12:19 pm
by Frislander
Tarahumara?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 12:28 pm
by Karch
Yes. (Which variety, though?)

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 12:46 pm
by Pabappa
😕

I guess this just isnt my thing. I found Tarahumara and went right past it because it didnt have an /ˀn/, .... is that a cluster and it just happens that there were no instances of other /ʔ/ + consonant in the sample text?

Oh well. I had fun, even so.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 6:06 pm
by Frislander
Karch wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 12:28 pm Yes. (Which variety, though?)
Well given the absence of orthographic <l> this appears to rule out Northern and Western, so Eastern perhaps?

Anyhow, next language.
bĂ€nema kwaƋatrikwĂ©... nzefĂ©. fenz ane maneƋonathrth... kwosifr kabeaneme... bthan kabeyĂ©. trikasi zrethkĂ€fĂ©. bthan kabe fthĂ© fenz yonasi... bĂ€nemr zrethkĂ€fth mĂ€traksir. kzi kwa yafiyokwrth. srafiyokwrth karesama kzi. srĂ€rzirth. watik kwa eyak. nima kwosifr fthĂ©... kabe fthĂ© ynĂ€nzĂŒthzrth baden... fthĂ© one week srakor... fthĂ© fof krefar ane bthan kabe bobo... fokam znfo, fokam mnzfo... sikwankwanme zbĂ€r thd. kabef keke kwa sremar. sĂŒsĂŒbĂ€then kwa yak... tosinmĂ€re... kwayanmĂ€re. kwa yak. yfrsĂ© gwonyamekarĂ€ kwa yĂ©. keke kwa kwayanthĂ© gwonyamekarĂ€ bĂ€nema kabef sremar... kabeyĂ© sremarth. watik yfö katanr kwa yarenzr. katan yfö fthĂ© zremar... ebarfa fĂ€ fof kwa bĂ€ne ythorthr... nabi a mrrab.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 7:24 pm
by bradrn
Frislander wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 6:06 pm
Karch wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 12:28 pm Yes. (Which variety, though?)
Well given the absence of orthographic <l> this appears to rule out Northern and Western, so Eastern perhaps?

Anyhow, next language.
I thought you were supposed to wait until it was confirmed that you solved it correctly?
bĂ€nema kwaƋatrikwĂ©... nzefĂ©. fenz ane maneƋonathrth... kwosifr kabeaneme... bthan kabeyĂ©. trikasi zrethkĂ€fĂ©. bthan kabe fthĂ© fenz yonasi... bĂ€nemr zrethkĂ€fth mĂ€traksir. kzi kwa yafiyokwrth. srafiyokwrth karesama kzi. srĂ€rzirth. watik kwa eyak. nima kwosifr fthĂ©... kabe fthĂ© ynĂ€nzĂŒthzrth baden... fthĂ© one week srakor... fthĂ© fof krefar ane bthan kabe bobo... fokam znfo, fokam mnzfo... sikwankwanme zbĂ€r thd. kabef keke kwa sremar. sĂŒsĂŒbĂ€then kwa yak... tosinmĂ€re... kwayanmĂ€re. kwa yak. yfrsĂ© gwonyamekarĂ€ kwa yĂ©. keke kwa kwayanthĂ© gwonyamekarĂ€ bĂ€nema kabef sremar... kabeyĂ© sremarth. watik yfö katanr kwa yarenzr. katan yfö fthĂ© zremar... ebarfa fĂ€ fof kwa bĂ€ne ythorthr... nabi a mrrab.
Are you entirely sure this isn’t a conlang? (I’m sure it’s not, but it looks so strange that I feel like I have to ask.)

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 7:54 pm
by Nortaneous
Oceanic?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 8:20 am
by Richard W
bradrn wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 7:24 pm Are you entirely sure this isn’t a conlang? (I’m sure it’s not, but it looks so strange that I feel like I have to ask.)
I must say the punctuation is odd. Or is this just Frislander's view on applying European punctuation rules to non-Latin script languages? So, is it normally written in an Indic script?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 8:30 am
by bradrn
Richard W wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 8:20 am
bradrn wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 7:24 pm Are you entirely sure this isn’t a conlang? (I’m sure it’s not, but it looks so strange that I feel like I have to ask.)
I must say the punctuation is odd. Or is this just Frislander's view on applying European punctuation rules to non-Latin script languages? So, is it normally written in an Indic script?
The punctuation seems fine to me, actually. I assume the ellipses are just a transcription of pauses during speech. (I saw a grammar of Dongwang Tibetan which used the same convention, so it doesn’t seem too unusual.)

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 8:36 am
by Frislander
Nortaneous wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 7:54 pmOceanic?
No
Richard W wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 8:20 am
bradrn wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 7:24 pm Are you entirely sure this isn’t a conlang? (I’m sure it’s not, but it looks so strange that I feel like I have to ask.)
I must say the punctuation is odd. Or is this just Frislander's view on applying European punctuation rules to non-Latin script languages? So, is it normally written in an Indic script?
No
bradrn wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 7:24 pmAre you entirely sure this isn’t a conlang? (I’m sure it’s not, but it looks so strange that I feel like I have to ask.)
Absolutely sure.

Also ngl you could level something like that at Albanian, since that also shares a particular aesthetic that we mostly associate with conlangs.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 8:38 am
by bradrn
Frislander wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 8:36 am
bradrn wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 7:24 pmAre you entirely sure this isn’t a conlang? (I’m sure it’s not, but it looks so strange that I feel like I have to ask.)
Absolutely sure.

Also ngl you could level something like that at Albanian, since that also shares a particular aesthetic that we mostly associate with conlangs.
Well, we have a whole thread dedicated to natlangs which look like conlangs! So yes, I am familiar with the concept of such natlangs. But I couldn’t resist asking, since your text just looked so strange.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 8:53 am
by cedh
Papuan?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 9:17 am
by Frislander
cedh wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 8:53 amPapuan?
Yes

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 9:31 am
by bradrn
Frislander wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 9:17 am
cedh wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 8:53 amPapuan?
Yes
Not again! :) I don’t know anything about Papuan, so I won’t bother guessing then.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:49 pm
by Richard W
bradrn wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 8:30 am
Richard W wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 8:20 am I must say the punctuation is odd. Or is this just Frislander's view on applying European punctuation rules to non-Latin script languages? So, is it normally written in an Indic script?
The punctuation seems fine to me, actually. I assume the ellipses are just a transcription of pauses during speech. (I saw a grammar of Dongwang Tibetan which used the same convention, so it doesn’t seem too unusual.)
I expect sentences to start with capital letters.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 4:21 pm
by Karch
It's a Tonda language, either Komnzo or Nen (since these are the only Tonda languages I know that don't write the schwa) - and since it has too many vowels for it to be Nen I'll just guess Komnzo.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 4:59 pm
by Frislander
Karch wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 4:21 pm It's a Tonda language, either Komnzo or Nen (since these are the only Tonda languages I know that don't write the schwa) - and since it has too many vowels for it to be Nen I'll just guess Komnzo.
Wow guess I should read up on more Tonda languages to pick ones that aren't so distinctive, well done Komnzo it is!