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[zø̀ɥ.tɕûj]
zeutsuí

(adj.) "(of scene, feelings) bitter, sad; (of flavour) bitter;
(n.) "(of flavour, emotion) bitterness"
(v.) "embitter"

[zø̂ɥ.tɕìj]
(n.) (proper name) "Zeutsuí, a brand of mustard"
(v.) "(literature, also of circumstances) to end in tragedy"
(v.) "become bitter"

[zø̀ɥ.tɕíj]
(adj) (archaic or literary) mustard-flavoured"
(n.) (trademark genericisation) "mustard"
(v.) (pseudo-archaism, increasing in popularty) "to spread with mustard"

[ɣø̀ɥ.tɕíj]
(adj.) (of story, mythology) bitter sad;
(adj.) (in demonology) general adjective regarding a class of unholly being;
(n.) "(literature) sad story, tragedy"

That isn't how sound change works!

Travis B. wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 6:38 pm That isn't how sound change works!

Maybe it was an attempt at Koinéisation?

[ɑ̀.nó]
anó "Brother"

foxcatdog wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 2:27 am [ɑ̀.nó]
anó "Brother"

Could you choose a longer word? Short words don't make for as interesting changes.

Travis B. wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:02 am

foxcatdog wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 2:27 am [ɑ̀.nó]
anó "Brother"

Could you choose a longer word? Short words don't make for as interesting changes.

Nonsense, here, let's break the vowels in high-pitched syllables:

[ɑ̀.núə]
anó
"brother"

Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:39 pm

Travis B. wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 6:38 pm That isn't how sound change works!

Maybe it was an attempt at Koinéisation?

How did you figure it out

Breaking of diphthongs into separate syllables.

[ɑ̀.nú.wə̀]
anó
"brother"

[w] > [v]

[ɑ̀.nú.və̀]
anó
"brother"

Lengthening of vowels in high tone open syllables.

[ɑ̀.núː.və̀]
anó
"brother"

Reduction of low-tone short vowels when immediately followed by a high-tone vowel:

[ə̀.núː.və̀]
anó
"brother"

Fortiton of [v] to [f].

[ə̀.núː.fə̀]
anó
"brother"

ə assimilates to following vowel:

[ù.núː.fə̀]
unófa
"brother"

Diphthongisation

[ù.náuː.fə̀]
unáufa
"friend, close friend; (archaic, literary) brother"

[auː.f] > [aβ.β] irrespective of tone

[ù.náβ.βə̀]
unáufa
"friend, close friend; (archaic, literary) brother"

Fortition of double fricatives

[ù.náb.bə̀]
unáufa
"friend, close friend; (archaic, literary) brother"

Final schwa to *i

[ù.náb.bì]
unáufa
"friend, close friend; (archaic, literary) brother"

I see we have gone with the most obvious semantic evolution

Umlaut

[ỳ.nɛ́b.bì]
ünäbbi
"friend, close friend; (archaic, literary) brother"

I see we have gone with the most obvious semantic evolution
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*n > *m after a rounder vowel
[ỳ.mɛ́b.bì]
ünäbbi
"friend, close friend; (archaic, literary) brother"

Vocalisation of coda [b]

[ỳ.mɛ́ɔ̯.bì]
ünäbbi
"friend, close friend; (archaic, literary) brother"