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Re: Conlang fluency thread

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 9:57 am
by bradrn
Pedant wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 9:28 pm Booladjirra:
Baalhoombar dhundhitjal gundjaadj diduja wemba djindjam wingirr.
day-IMP.CONV fall-INST.CONV lightning-INST end-TERM.REAL life tree-OBJ 1de.INS-POSS
Our tree was struck by lightning and died today.

Naak thaŋ nii bey gadiqŋu ŋa-qangat thaŋ?

what the FOC Q absorb-STAT [=have.as.member] that-tree DEF

What kind of tree?

Re: Conlang fluency thread

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 5:19 am
by Ares Land
ayinsimbri.JPG
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Ayin simri wawichis!
ayin
now
simri
Simbri
wa-wich-is
1-IPRF\write-FUT

'I can write in Simbri now!'

Re: Conlang fluency thread

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:04 am
by masako
eya uatla kue telatamya mue poton tse'eniha
That might look better scanned rather than as a photo.

Re: Conlang fluency thread

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:22 pm
by Ares Land
Nas jebba an poto!
nas
true
jebba
clumsy
an
that
poto
photo


Yes, it's a terrible photo!

Re: Conlang fluency thread

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 3:31 pm
by jal
bradrn wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 9:57 amwhat the FOC
Indeed :D


JAL

Re: Conlang fluency thread

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 12:51 pm
by Emily
Ares Land wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 5:19 am ayinsimbri.JPG
Ayin simri wawichis!
ayin
now
simri
Simbri
wa-wich-is
1-IPRF\write-FUT

'I can write in Simbri now!'
Lo scripto simbrieso semble la stenografia „Gregg“.
the simbri script looks like gregg shorthand

Re: Conlang fluency thread

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 1:29 pm
by Travis B.
Emily wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 12:51 pm Lo scripto simbrieso semble la stenografia „Gregg“.
the simbri script looks like gregg shorthand
Tsá háir romåwo håm jerejinezi?
[tsʰaːꜜ xaːrʲꜜ rʷomɒwo xʷɒm jerejiɲeʑi]
/tsʰáː xáːrʲ rʷəma=wə xʷam jərə-jɨ-ɲə-ʑɨ/
WH DIST.S.B Rome=GEN tongue.B EQU-3.S.B-3.S.B-WH
What Romance language is that?

Re: Conlang fluency thread

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 2:07 pm
by Rounin Ryuuji
命杶葉語?
いたい゙はいふ?
Ital'ya iyu?
[ì.t̪ʰɐ̞́ʎ.jɐ̞̖̀ í.jýᵝˑ]
vital.varnish.leaf(=Italy).language
"Italian?"

Re: Conlang fluency thread

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 2:36 pm
by Travis B.
Rounin Ryuuji wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 2:07 pm 命杶葉語?
いたい゙はいふ?
Ital'ya iyu?
[ì.t̪ʰɐ̞́ʎ.jɐ̞̖̀ í.jýᵝˑ]
vital.varnish.leaf(=Italy).language
"Italian?"
Háir itállüwo håm jerejinerä.
[xaːrʲꜜ itɕʰaːꜜʎywo xɒm jerejiɲerʲæ]
/xáːrʲ ɨtɕʰáːʎɨ=wə xʷam jərə-jɨ-ɲə-rʲa/
DIST.S.B Italy=GEN tongue.B EQU-3.S.B-3.S.B-POSSIBLE
That could be an Italian language.

Re: Conlang fluency thread

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 3:13 pm
by Ares Land
Emily wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 12:51 pm
Ares Land wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 5:19 am ayinsimbri.JPG
Ayin simri wawichis!
ayin
now
simri
Simbri
wa-wich-is
1-IPRF\write-FUT

'I can write in Simbri now!'
Lo scripto simbrieso semble la stenografia „Gregg“.
the simbri script looks like gregg shorthand
Gregg shorthand nas hān watkarom poči. Iči haris wecha an simri; hān dopa ilis.

Gregg shorthand
Gregg shorthand
nas
true
hān
not
wa-t-karom
1-CL.8
poči
never
/
iči
still
har-is
PRF\change-FUT
wecha
write
an
that
simri
Simbri
/
hān
not
dopa
enough
ilis
pretty


'I'd never heard of Gregg shorthand. Simbri writing may still change; it's not pretty enough.'

Re: Conlang fluency thread

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 10:43 pm
by bradrn
Ares Land wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 3:13 pm Gregg shorthand nas hān watkarom poči. Iči haris wecha an simri; hān dopa ilis.

Gregg shorthand
Gregg shorthand
nas
true
hān
not
wa-t-karom
1-CL.8
poči
never
/
iči
still
har-is
PRF\change-FUT
wecha
write
an
that
simri
Simbri
/
hān
not
dopa
enough
ilis
pretty


'I'd never heard of Gregg shorthand. Simbri writing may still change; it's not pretty enough.'
Wēthawat təyērasənīɲem.
/ˈweːɹawat təˈjeːrasəˌniːɲem/
|əʷ-wə-e-tha-wat təy=əʷ-e-riaʷ-sə-nə-iɲem|
3s.O-1s.A-NP-INCH-do COMP=3s.O-NP-INT-can-MED-like

I think it’s very pretty.

Re: Conlang fluency thread

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2022 11:44 am
by Pedant
bradrn wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 9:57 am Naak thaŋ nii bey gadiqŋu ŋa-qangat thaŋ?

what the FOC Q absorb-STAT [=have.as.member] that-tree DEF

What kind of tree?
Qoldishtari:

Mosala jar-i-dihreyakh.
1p-GEN tree-CONJ-apple-past.SIMP.MED
"It was our apple tree."

Yal-i-padr selelayakh.
7-CONJ-10 year-PL-GEN-past.SIMP.MED
"It was seventeen years old."

Re: Conlang fluency thread

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 2:25 am
by Ares Land
bradrn wrote: Sat Jun 11, 2022 10:43 pm Wēthawat təyērasənīɲem.
/ˈweːɹawat təˈjeːrasəˌniːɲem/
|əʷ-wə-e-tha-wat təy=əʷ-e-riaʷ-sə-nə-iɲem|
3s.O-1s.A-NP-INCH-do COMP=3s.O-NP-INT-can-MED-like

I think it’s very pretty.
šiamma an šittowor

ši-amma
2-pleasant
an
that
ši-t-towor
2-CL.8-say

It's kind of you to say so!

Re: Conlang fluency thread

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 1:05 pm
by Travis B.
Pedant wrote: Sun Jun 12, 2022 11:44 am Qoldishtari:

Mosala jar-i-dihreyakh.
1p-GEN tree-CONJ-apple-past.SIMP.MED
"It was our apple tree."

Yal-i-padr selelayakh.
7-CONJ-10 year-PL-GEN-past.SIMP.MED
"It was seventeen years old."
Háir ġáisji håmna fûṙṙâjijenenälå?
[xaːrʲꜜ ɣaːɕꜜji xʷɒmna ɸɯꜜʁɑjijeɲeɲæɫɒ]
/xáːrʲ ɣáːɕ-jɨ xʷam=na ɸɨ́ʁa-jɨ-jə-ɲə-ɲa-ɫa/
DIST.S.B be.natural-3.S.B tongue.B=AGT inspire-3.S.B-PAST.PFV-3.S.B-INV-Q
Was that inspired by a natlang?

Re: Conlang fluency thread

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:17 pm
by Pedant
Travis B. wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 1:05 pm Háir ġáisji håmna fûṙṙâjijenenälå?
[xaːrʲꜜ ɣaːɕꜜji xʷɒmna ɸɯꜜʁɑjijeɲeɲæɫɒ]
/xáːrʲ ɣáːɕ-jɨ xʷam=na ɸɨ́ʁa-jɨ-jə-ɲə-ɲa-ɫa/
DIST.S.B be.natural-3.S.B tongue.B=AGT inspire-3.S.B-PAST.PFV-3.S.B-INV-Q
Was that inspired by a natlang?
Salvian:

Echembit' osnavat Osmaniyaha tu-Mongoliyaha. Aajaatita.
inspire.PERF.IRR-3sAn language-ABL.PL Ottoman.Empire-GEN.SING and-Mongolia-GEN.SING / happen.PERF.IRR-3sAn
"It might have been inspired by Ottoman Turkish and Mongolian. Just possibly."

Re: Conlang fluency thread

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 11:26 pm
by Emily
Travis B. wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 1:29 pm
Emily wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 12:51 pm Lo scripto simbrieso semble la stenografia „Gregg“.
the simbri script looks like gregg shorthand
Tsá háir romåwo håm jerejinezi?
[tsʰaːꜜ xaːrʲꜜ rʷomɒwo xʷɒm jerejiɲeʑi]
/tsʰáː xáːrʲ rʷəma=wə xʷam jərə-jɨ-ɲə-ʑɨ/
WH DIST.S.B Rome=GEN tongue.B EQU-3.S.B-3.S.B-WH
What Romance language is that?
La lingua ruritaniesa, naturalamente!
Ruritanian, of course!

Re: Conlang fluency thread

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:18 am
by jal
Emily wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 11:26 pmRuritanian, of course!
Im swit mi!
I like it!

On the phonology page a possible typo:
Compound words follow the same stress patterns of the original morphemes (/ˌakwaˌmeˈlona/ “watermelon”, from /ˈakwa/ “water” and /ˌmeˈlona/ “melon”).
Shouldn't that be /ˈakwaˌmeˈlona/?


JAL

Re: Conlang fluency thread

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:09 pm
by Emily
jal wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:18 am
Emily wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 11:26 pmRuritanian, of course!
Im swit mi!
I like it!
Grate!
Thank you!
jal wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:18 am On the phonology page a possible typo:
Compound words follow the same stress patterns of the original morphemes (/ˌakwaˌmeˈlona/ “watermelon”, from /ˈakwa/ “water” and /ˌmeˈlona/ “melon”).
Shouldn't that be /ˈakwaˌmeˈlona/?
JAL
Una quès'ciona capisciabila!
An understandable question!

Meno ha lo alo verbo una sola silábula met lo accento primario, ergo háven li elementi nonultimi en verbi compositi li accenti secondarii en las silábulas quèlas li accenti primarii háven se sono elas verbi independenti.
But each word only has one syllable with primary stress, so in compounds the non-final elements take secondary stress on the syllables that would have primary stress if they were independent.

Probabilamente scioldo ya dat en lo texto magioro claro scribir.
I should probably make that clearer in the text.

Re: Conlang fluency thread

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:37 pm
by Rounin Ryuuji
桃瓜を木乃む。
いみめをりをくゐよのむ。
Imimeworiyo kyonomu.
[í.mᶣí.mè̞.wó̞ᵝˑ.ɾ̪ʲì.jò̞ᵝ c͡çʰi̯ó̞ᵝˑ.n̪ò̞ᵝ.mʉ̀ᵝ]
peach.melon.INDEF-ACC like.PREDICATIVE
"I like watermelons."

朕の 木乃しい実ら 桃らとお 李ら 在り しか。
いめの くゐよのしいむい いみめらとお むめら あり しか。
Ime no kyonoshi mura imimera to mumera ari shika.
[íˑ.mè̞ n̪ò̞ᵝ c͡çʰi̯ó̞ᵝˑ.n̪ò̞ᵝ.ɕʰì mʉ́ᵝˑ.ɾ̪ɐ̞̀ í.mᶣíˑ.mè̞.ɾ̪ɐ̞̀ t̪ʰò̞ᵝ mʉ́ᵝˑ.mè̞.ɾ̪ɐ̞̀ ɐ̞́ˑ.ɾ̪ʲì ɕʰì.kʰɐ̞̀]
1sg.GEN like.ADJ.ADN fruit.PLURAL peach.PLURAL.COMITATIVE plum.PLURAL COPULA.PREDICATIVE but
"But my favourite fruits are peaches and plums."

爾らが 木乃しい実ら 何り ほっい?
みやらが くゐよのしいむら えかり ほっい?
Myaraga kyonoshi mura ekari hoi?
[mᶣi̯ɐ̞́ˑ.ɾ̪ɐ̞̀.(ᵑ)gɐ̞̀ c͡çʰi̯ó̞ᵝˑ.n̪ò̞ᵝ.ɕʰì mʉ́ᵝˑ.ɾ̪ɐ̞̀ è̞.kʰɐ̞́ˑ.ɾ̪ʲì xò̞ᵝ.(w)íˑ]
2pl.GEN like.ADJ-ADN fruit.PLURAL INTERROGATIVE-COPULA.PREDICATIVE INTERROGATIVE-PARTICLE
"What's everybody's favourite fruit?"

Re: Conlang fluency thread

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:15 pm
by foxcatdog
a·ne·nedi·ty kagi·ijumeski nazadapuŋa·
a·ne·+nedí·ty kagi·+ijum(n)+/b/(p)e/ki/si nazada+puŋ(m)/us/k/a·
water+melon kagi+sweet+possumapple dragon+fruit
“Watermelon, Mango and Strawberries”

ni·dipuŋa· abi naka kumidamtikx·ka·s adónasabo·da tal najgan sada anjá·majo· tujtu
ni·di+puŋa· abi naka kumidam+tikx(u)·-ka·s adónas+abò·da tal na/·/+j/a/gan sada anjá·-maj+o· tujtu
DEM.prox+fruit over for metal+possess-with.hand=buy west+possumapple and PRED+only open year+discontinuous+ADJ but
“They cost more than apples and are only available seasonally however”

Notes
a) dragonfruit and westapple for strawberry and apple derive from the fact both are native to dragon empire in universe
b) the standard way of expressing something costs something is via to construction “buy for” or in this case “for buy” due to head initialism
c) the predicate almost exclusively appears before the phrase it modifies and can also combine with other prepositions
d) open as in available see “this shop is open”
e) more derivation through morphology this time with adjectival suffix