Zompist Bboard Again

jal wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:32 am Sajiwan allows subjects in "to" clauses (what is their official linguistic name?), so can distinguish between fi bek kek ("to bake a cake", most likely understood to be done by the subject of the main clause) and fi im bek kek ("to bake a cake by him/her").

That reminds me of how in English gerunds can have subjects, in formal registers in genitive case and in everyday speech in accusative case.

tąsucenúúrdą̀náma
tą-soki+nú·úr-dą́ná-ma
near.past-inspire+come.MOM-with.divine-1.sg.m
“I’ve been inspired”

Some more samplers
mą̀ą̀ę t́yonaɫyaqua doonuquecucąsnembainocųųnáe
mą̀ą̀ę t́yo-naɫya+qua doo-noqui+cucą(ę).s-ni-m/i/-bai-nocųų-náe
want event+sun+up continuous-exchange+touch.MOM-begin.T-reciprocal.T-anterior-with.butt-3.friend
“We friends will share greetings before the sun comes up”

maen tǫ́nni tułoonnį tułoombááyàcáma
maen tǫ́-m-ni tołoo(u)-ń-nį tołoo(u)-ń-báá-yácá-ma
1.sg.INT thing-plu-specific.D-1.sg.m burn.impf-reportative.T-3.sg.f near.past+burn.impf-reportative.T-emphatic-against.will-1.sg.m
“I’m telling you she made me burn my things”

foxcatdog wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:28 am “I’ve been inspired”

nya'e ka
in.order Q
To do what?

foxcatdog wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:28 am “I’m telling you she made me burn my things”

ya tilempotse
VOC situation-bad-seem
Seems like a bad time...

masako wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:50 pm nya'e ka
in.order Q
To do what?

gauzęęmabiidadąąmoo
gau-zęęmə+bii+dadą.ą-moo
discontinuous-language+formal+make.IMPF-reportative
“More language crafting”

masako wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:50 pm ya tilempotse
VOC situation-bad-seem
Seems like a bad time...

dąąųmimma bǫ̀ muutándàjúkóóma
dąą+uwin-ma bǫ̀ muu-tándá+júkóó(ò)n-ma
for+luck-1.sg.m NEG event-live+through.PERF-1.sg.m
“Luckily i didn’t experience it”

jɔmɔ̃n jɔy pǿ pasiʂeasau li isi
old+mother guild of food+impress+country=italy NEG here
“The italian grandmas association does not exist”

na nya taliyo katoliku omonko e ka
I thought that was the Catholic Church, yeah?

Some Early Inscriptions

apí dzana no ilamao
apí+X dzana no ila+mao
fox+NOM nude COP.3.sg.IMPF always+LOC
“The fox is always in nude”

brindó cozataki źaspatípu
brínda+o cozata+ki źaspá+ti+pu
dog+GEN crown-DAT take+1.sg+PERF
“I’ll take the dog’s crown”

θi nokwa nactóziki si pipilaka
θi nokwa+X nácto+ziki si pipila+X+ka
DEM.1 crow+NOM night+INST go fly+3+IMPF
“This crow flies through the night”

niki wakwa gordona cokwo gultimao keeka
niki wakwa gordona+X cokwí+o gulti+mao kee+ka
any many guard+NOM king+GEN safe+LOC keep+IMPF
“Any of many guards keeps the kings safety”

Foxcatdog's examples are quite nice for a pre-modern conlang like Tautisca:
“The fox is always in nude”
Nu su lópis caila wista's noddus.
PRTC ART-M.SG.NOM fox-SG.NOM whole-N.PL.NOM time-PL.NOM be-3SG.PRES.ACT.CLIT naked-M.SG,NOM
The fox is always naked.

“I’ll take the dog’s crown”
Nu tan cunaus corónan ísí.
PRTC ART-F.SG-ACC dog-SG.GEN crown-SG.ACC take-1SG.PROSP.ACT

“This crow flies through the night”
Các corca par nochtin petit.
this-F.SG.NOM crow-SG.NOM through night-Sg.ACC fly-3SG.PRES.ACT

“Any of many guards keeps the kings safety”
Pispus térun polún worunun tan fáwutatun tommoi régai parsolbét.
any-M.SG.NOM ART-M.PL.GEN guard-PL.GEN ART-F.SG.ACC safety-SG.ACC ART-M.SG.DAT king-SG.DAT preserve-3SG.PRES.ACT
Any of the many guards keeps the safety of/for the king.

Wain dagaido elgingereig elman

Wain

STA

dagaido

fox

elg-ingereig

OPP-clothe

el-man

always

The fox is always naked

Yea wenur ehyauh in ragdi

Yea

FUT.ACT.1s

wenur

take

ehyauh

crown

in

GEN

ragdi

dog

I'll take the dog's crown

U oromag eroini yoer ouh

U

ACT

oromag

crow

eroini

fly

yoer

VIA

ouh

night

The crow flies through the night

Umeg orya uhyelgene oi idwain renhah lamina

U-m-eg

ACT-E-any

orya

ABL

uh-yelge-ne

AGT-protect-many

oi

SBJ

id-wain

CONT-STA

renhah

king

lamina

save

Any of many guards keeps the kings safety

In Proto Elven note some forms like dog or night haven't been invented yet

susi né batema parna
fox PRED nudity-PL-ESS always
“The fox is always in nude”

pángani lútinna lúterasi
crown-CONS wolf+DIM take-FUT
“I’ll take the dog’s crown”

cabracár durinyá tulla bene
crow dark-INES come fly
“The crow flies through the night”
“lit. the crow comes through the night”

noia a netyasi nárdon monmisú pole
guard-PL any many king-ACC safety-STRC hold
“Any of many guards keeps the kings safety”

tunara kumpari ilha giyatúl
always fox 3s.ANIM-COP clothing-ABE
“The fox is always in nude”

Dem fos in puton no gahmn.
Foxes don't wear clothes.


JAL

üxgèĆāxm]xÿĐxe
skin non-human containing humans and animals...

xxx wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 2:51 pmüxgèĆāxm]xÿĐxe

Mi fiya omana dis ya a glos...
I'm afraid how that is glossed...


JAL

qĊĒ‡āĂxf
colors given by me...

That's the most... disturbing... conlang I've ever seen.

Wẽ’ biho’hahãhõbote ya’hã
[wɛ̃́ bìhɔ́hàhã̀hɔ̃̀bɔ̀tɛ̀ jáhã̀]
we’N b-i-ho’<h>a-haNhoN-bo-te ya’haN
cassowary IRREAL-3.SUBJ-hold.PL-cloth-MOVING-DAYTIME NEG
“Cassowaries never wear clothes.”

E’yohõ’ tu’memo’a’hãhoãbo.
[ɛ́jɔ̀hɔ̃́ túmɛ̃̀mɔ̃́áhã̀hɔ̀ã̀bɔ̀]
e’yoho’N t-u’-boN-e-bo’N-a’haNhoaN-bo
dog IRREAL-1SG.SUBJ-3M.SG.OBJ-take-ALLAT-headwear-MOVING
“I’ll take the dog’s headwear.”

Tũhã’hã’ sime’pĩ’rebomeba.
[tũ̀hã́hã́ sìmɛ̃́pĩ́ɾɛ̀bɔ̀mɛ̃̀bà]
tuNha’Nha’N t-i-be’Npi’N<r>e-bo-beNba
crow REAL-3.SUBJ-float.SG-MOVING-NIGHTTIME
“The crow flies through the night”

Sirerã’uya’homi’he’, aku ãtoba tĩyihe’te.
[sìɾɛ̀ɾã́ùjáhɔ̀mĩ́hɛ́ | àkù ã̀tɔ̀bà tĩ̀jihɛ́tɛ̀]
t-i-re<r>a’N-uya’-hobi’N-he’, aku aNtoba t-i-iN-iN-he’-te
REAL-3SG.SUBJ-be.one.SING-INESS-servant-STANDING, chief safe REAL-3SG.SUBJ-hold~hold-STANDING-DAYTIME
“One of the guards always keeps the king safe.”

How would your conlang translate "Homo homini lupus"? I am playing with translating some Doctor Zhivago, and that phrase (trans: Человек человеку волк) is giving me headaches.

|qEăć|ăĔ|iaZi|q
(men visible as animals eating men....)

Haġahåwo vähna q'uámaläninät.
[xaɣaxɒwo vʲæxna qʷʼaːꜜmalæ̃ĩ̯ɲætʰ]
/xaxaxa=wə vʲax=na qʷʼáːma-la-ɲə-ɲa-tʰ/
xxx=GEN tongue.B=AGT scare-ABS.1.S-ERG.3.S.B-INV-DIR
xxx's language scares me.