Re: Venting thread
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:42 pm
It's a bit of a niche thing that doesn't often come up, indeed. At least I don't need to apostille the documents for my upcoming move to Luxembourg...
It's a bit of a niche thing that doesn't often come up, indeed. At least I don't need to apostille the documents for my upcoming move to Luxembourg...
Oh dear. Good luck to them and you!foxcatdog wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:07 am Just yesterday my brother and my other brother's girlfriend got into a pretty serious car crash. My brother sustained a concussion and a minor injury to his spleen while my brother's girlfriend sustained two broken limbs, a shattered pelvis, marrow on her lungs and a more serious concussion. Both were speaking when the police arrived at the accident though although the girl had to be cut out of the car by firemen.
Turns out the husband of the couple had a stroke a day or two after his wife did. He's in the hospital, too. When it rains...
That really sucks!foxcatdog wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:07 am Just yesterday my brother and my other brother's girlfriend got into a pretty serious car crash. My brother sustained a concussion and a minor injury to his spleen while my brother's girlfriend sustained two broken limbs, a shattered pelvis, marrow on her lungs and a more serious concussion. Both were speaking when the police arrived at the accident though although the girl had to be cut out of the car by firemen.
I'm sorry to hear that.
That sucks. I hope both of them get better soon.foxcatdog wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:07 am Just yesterday my brother and my other brother's girlfriend got into a pretty serious car crash. My brother sustained a concussion and a minor injury to his spleen while my brother's girlfriend sustained two broken limbs, a shattered pelvis, marrow on her lungs and a more serious concussion. Both were speaking when the police arrived at the accident though although the girl had to be cut out of the car by firemen.
I can relate. I never really got into RPG -- the monster fights with funny dice can be exceedingly boring. And it's not that easy to find a group that's interested in more.WeepingElf wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:00 am I'd like to play tabletop role-playing games with some friends, and went to a RPG convention last weekend to meet some, but my experience there just confirmed what I have been feeling for long: most people who claim to play role-playing games really just play skirmish wargames, either abusing role-playing games for that purpose, or games that are marketed as "role-playing games" but really are merely glorified skirmish wargames. But role-playing games can be so much more than that.
Just that. RPG combat is boring, and I don't like stories where problems are solved with violence. Another way of putting this is that to most RPG aficionados, combat is about as central to roleplaying as scoring goals is to soccer.Ares Land wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:46 amI can relate. I never really got into RPG -- the monster fights with funny dice can be exceedingly boring. And it's not that easy to find a group that's interested in more.WeepingElf wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:00 am I'd like to play tabletop role-playing games with some friends, and went to a RPG convention last weekend to meet some, but my experience there just confirmed what I have been feeling for long: most people who claim to play role-playing games really just play skirmish wargames, either abusing role-playing games for that purpose, or games that are marketed as "role-playing games" but really are merely glorified skirmish wargames. But role-playing games can be so much more than that.
Trying to con my brother into doing an adventure with a bit more social interaction and roleplay but that's on an indefinite hiatus due to above mentioned events.WeepingElf wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:44 amJust that. RPG combat is boring, and I don't like stories where problems are solved with violence. Another way of putting this is that to most RPG aficionados, combat is about as central to roleplaying as scoring goals is to soccer.Ares Land wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:46 amI can relate. I never really got into RPG -- the monster fights with funny dice can be exceedingly boring. And it's not that easy to find a group that's interested in more.WeepingElf wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:00 am I'd like to play tabletop role-playing games with some friends, and went to a RPG convention last weekend to meet some, but my experience there just confirmed what I have been feeling for long: most people who claim to play role-playing games really just play skirmish wargames, either abusing role-playing games for that purpose, or games that are marketed as "role-playing games" but really are merely glorified skirmish wargames. But role-playing games can be so much more than that.
It's kind of ironic that for something called roleplaying, most people default to thinking of the main component being the combat and not playing roles. I do a lot of writing in a fan community that is focused on social aspects so that tends to carry over to any ttrpgs people start up, but not everyone has an available community to draw on.foxcatdog wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:49 amTrying to con my brother into doing an adventure with a bit more social interaction and roleplay but that's on an indefinite hiatus due to above mentioned events.WeepingElf wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:44 amJust that. RPG combat is boring, and I don't like stories where problems are solved with violence. Another way of putting this is that to most RPG aficionados, combat is about as central to roleplaying as scoring goals is to soccer.
It probably has to do with the history of TTRPGs: they evolved from skirmish wargames. I even seem to remember reading somewhere that D&D was initially marketed as a "wargame" and only latter called a "role-playing game". Also, TTRPGs appear to be popular, for whichever reason (perhaps they have heard at some point that computer RPGs originated in them), among socially inept IT nerds who prefer combat because it doesn't require social skills from the players - you just have to roll dice and mark off points on your character sheet. I have met many of this kind of people when I tried to find roleplayers.linguistcat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:51 amIt's kind of ironic that for something called roleplaying, most people default to thinking of the main component being the combat and not playing roles. I do a lot of writing in a fan community that is focused on social aspects so that tends to carry over to any ttrpgs people start up, but not everyone has an available community to draw on.foxcatdog wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:49 amTrying to con my brother into doing an adventure with a bit more social interaction and roleplay but that's on an indefinite hiatus due to above mentioned events.WeepingElf wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:44 am
Just that. RPG combat is boring, and I don't like stories where problems are solved with violence. Another way of putting this is that to most RPG aficionados, combat is about as central to roleplaying as scoring goals is to soccer.
This is quite true: it started out as a table-top wargame, and the role-playing bits were shoehorned in later.WeepingElf wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:57 pmI even seem to remember reading somewhere that D&D was initially marketed as a "wargame" and only latter called a "role-playing game".
I've replied to this where it belongs.alice wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:58 pmThis is quite true: it started out as a table-top wargame, and the role-playing bits were shoehorned in later.WeepingElf wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:57 pmI even seem to remember reading somewhere that D&D was initially marketed as a "wargame" and only latter called a "role-playing game".