Zompist Bboard Again

Linguoboy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 12:51 pm stent

I was amused to hear my late husband use /stɪnt/ because I assumed it was a pronunciation he picked up from my pin-pen merged speech, but recently I saw a non-native speaker use the spelling "stint", which makes me wonder if the variant with /ɪ/ is more widespread than I thought.

The pin-pen merger is so alien to the dialect here that I have a hard time picturing stent being pronounced with /ɪ/ - I firmly pronounce it as /stɛnt/ [sʲtʲɜ̃ʔ(t)].

However, the shift of /ɪl/ [ɪ̈ɯ̯]~[ɪ̈ːɯ̯]~[ɘɯ̯]~[ɘːɯ̯] to /ɛl/ [ɜɤ̯]~[ɜːɤ̯] is another story... it was seriously until I was well into adulthood before I realized that most people didn't pronounce Illinois with /ɛl/, and I am very familiar with /ɛl/ in milk -- that is how my mother has always pronounced it and how I would probably pronounce it if I wasn't thinking-- even though if you asked me to pronounce the word I would probably pronounce it with /ɪl/ just under the influence of Standard English.

Linguoboy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 12:51 pmI was amused to hear my late husband use /stɪnt/ because I assumed it was a pronunciation he picked up from my pin-pen merged speech, but recently I saw a non-native speaker use the spelling "stint", which makes me wonder if the variant with /ɪ/ is more widespread than I thought.

Could be contamination with the more common word "stint", assuming it's a homonym?


JAL

jal wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 2:58 am

Linguoboy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 12:51 pmI was amused to hear my late husband use /stɪnt/ because I assumed it was a pronunciation he picked up from my pin-pen merged speech, but recently I saw a non-native speaker use the spelling "stint", which makes me wonder if the variant with /ɪ/ is more widespread than I thought.

Could be contamination with the more common word "stint", assuming it's a homonym?

I was wondering that. But it could also just be a one-off for that particular speaker (perhaps he also learned the word from another pin-pen merged speaker), which is why I'm trying to gather more data.

Linguoboy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 1:12 pm

jal wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 2:58 am

Linguoboy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 12:51 pmI was amused to hear my late husband use /stɪnt/ because I assumed it was a pronunciation he picked up from my pin-pen merged speech, but recently I saw a non-native speaker use the spelling "stint", which makes me wonder if the variant with /ɪ/ is more widespread than I thought.

Could be contamination with the more common word "stint", assuming it's a homonym?

I was wondering that. But it could also just be a one-off for that particular speaker (perhaps he also learned the word from another pin-pen merged speaker), which is why I'm trying to gather more data.

My guess, if he wasn't natively pin-pen-merged overall, is indeed that he learned that particular word from someone who was.