Yes, but it's not common in English for inanimate objects to scold, threaten, or plead with people.Richard W wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:07 pmThat probably depends on whether they distinguish animate and inanimate fire. In English, it's quite common for people to scold, threaten or plead with inanimate objects. Would vehicles be animate or inanimate?WeepingElf wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:52 am What's the purpose of the 2nd person inanimate forms? How often do your people talk to inanimate things?
Turning two genders into three and figuring out how to come up with new morphemes for gender agreement
Re: Turning two genders into three and figuring out how to come up with new morphemes for gender agreement
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Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Re: Turning two genders into three and figuring out how to come up with new morphemes for gender agreement
Well, if the original distinction was animate-inanimate then the pronouns already exist and the innovated pronouns are the masculine (or feminine) I could consider abstract organizations of people like countries, cities, governments, armies, etc. as "inanimate"Travis B. wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:49 pm Tis true, but I personally like the idea of seemingly animate nouns that are grammatically inanimate myself. If one insists on having 2nd neuter pronouns, though, I would personally just derive them from one of the preexisting sets of 2nd person pronouns or even from, say, the 3rd neuter pronouns.
Ḫē arrālādas warraḫas, ḳebbam wasḫissam ṭananti
"O great army-INAN, your-INAN king demands your-INAN fealty."
The collective nouns are a significant member of the inanimate/neuter gender class:
arrūsāḫas "gathering of the faithful" (< wasāḫum "faithful one")
arrālādas "army" (< alādim "warrior")
arraḫzāzas "cavalry" (< ḫazāzim "horserider")
arrēğētas "fleet of ships" (< eğētum "sailor")
arralmābas "people, tribe, ethnic group" (< lumbum "person, human")
arramğādas "government, kingdom, empire" (< mağādum "governor, lord")
arraḳbābas "king and queen together, dynasty" (< ḳebbum "ruler")
Re: Turning two genders into three and figuring out how to come up with new morphemes for gender agreement
In some cultures, inscriptions on objects state their origin or purpose in the first person. That was unusual in English. However, Ahzoh has found a better reason for formal inanimates in the first and second persons.