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Re: Random opposites
Posted: Wed May 14, 2025 8:01 am
by Raphael
keenir wrote: ↑Tue May 13, 2025 11:33 pm
very cool, both of them; its also more proof that Kelly Hu would have been an awesome Doctor Who.
I suspect that most of those Chinese and Chinese-descended people who live in the West and have the surname "Hu" have heard the predictable "So
you're the one who let the dogs out!" joke a bit too often to still find it funny by now.
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Wed May 14, 2025 8:52 am
by keenir
Raphael wrote: ↑Wed May 14, 2025 8:01 amkeenir wrote: ↑Tue May 13, 2025 11:33 pmvery cool, both of them; its also more proof that Kelly Hu would have been an awesome Doctor Who.
I suspect that most of those Chinese and Chinese-descended people who live in the West and have the surname "Hu" have heard the predictable "So
you're the one who let the dogs out!" joke a bit too often to still find it funny by now.
true. but she is a great actress.
EDIT: in truth, I was going by the Romanization, not the pronounciation.
bradrn wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:32 amIn Hebrew too. (Where, for good measure, ‘he’ is
hu, cf. ‘who’.)
...though I misread the line above that, thus thinking erroniously that
hu was also Welsh.
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Wed May 14, 2025 11:31 am
by WeepingElf
There is also a Mongolian folk metal band named The Hu.
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Wed May 14, 2025 1:55 pm
by Travis B.
WeepingElf wrote: ↑Wed May 14, 2025 11:31 am
There is also a Mongolian folk metal band named
The Hu.
The Hu to me sounds like a The Who cover/tribute band.
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Thu May 15, 2025 8:42 am
by Man in Space
Travis B. wrote: ↑Wed May 14, 2025 1:55 pm
WeepingElf wrote: ↑Wed May 14, 2025 11:31 am
There is also a Mongolian folk metal band named
The Hu.
The Hu to me sounds like a The Who cover/tribute band.
The Dr. Seuss cover band would be
Horton Hears the Who.
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 12:32 pm
by Torco
i seem to remember the czech (or was it the hungarians?) said something like [no] to mean yes.
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 1:03 am
by Darren
Torco wrote: ↑Tue May 20, 2025 12:32 pm
i seem to remember the czech (or was it the hungarians?) said something like [no] to mean yes.
Poles do this. "no" is a filler word in Polish. When my great Aunt visited Australia, she kept on slipping up and using "no, no" in place of like "yeah" or "mhm" in conversations, and of course hilarity would ensue.
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 5:56 am
by Ketsuban
Brits will no doubt remember the character in The Vicar of Dibley who goes "no no no no no no no… yes" in response to questions.
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 6:31 am
by WeepingElf
Darren wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 1:03 am
Torco wrote: ↑Tue May 20, 2025 12:32 pm
i seem to remember the czech (or was it the hungarians?) said something like [no] to mean yes.
Poles do this. "no" is a filler word in Polish. When my great Aunt visited Australia, she kept on slipping up and using "no, no" in place of like "yeah" or "mhm" in conversations, and of course hilarity would ensue.
Reminds me of how the same interjection ([ʔŋʔŋ] or something similar) meant 'no' with my mother, but 'yes' with my grandmother. Also, they had opposite ideas of what is 'up' and what is 'down' in the nearest town.
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2025 9:33 pm
by Man in Space
Ketsuban wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 5:56 am
Brits will no doubt remember the character in The Vicar of Dibley who goes "no no no no no no no… yes" in response to questions.
So Rabbit’s line in
Winnie the Pooh and the Blustery Day is a reference?
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2025 5:10 am
by WeepingElf
It may be just an urban legend, but it is said that on a joint meeting of the British and U.S. general staffs during WWII, there was a misunderstanding when a British officer demanded that an important issue was "tabled", meaning 'put on the table for immediate discussion', while for the U.S. side, "to table" meant 'to put aside for the moment and discuss it later'.
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2025 5:32 am
by Raphael
WeepingElf wrote: ↑Mon Jun 02, 2025 5:10 am
while for the U.S. side, "to table" meant 'to put aside for the moment and discuss it later'.
And in practice, "later", in this context, usually seems to mean "never".
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2025 12:58 pm
by Lērisama
Raphael wrote: ↑Mon Jun 02, 2025 5:32 am
WeepingElf wrote: ↑Mon Jun 02, 2025 5:10 am
while for the U.S. side, "to table" meant 'to put aside for the moment and discuss it later'.
And in practice, "later", in this context, usually seems to mean "never".
This is one of the few US/UK differences that still trips me up: the US verb isn't common enough for me to get used to it, and they are similar enough in context that I can usually assume the UK meaning until I think about it.
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2025 1:15 pm
by Raphael
A long time ago, long before JK Rowling's transphobia became well-known, when I was still a lot into Harry Potter, I once saw a short HP fanfic titled something like "Minutes of a Hogwarts Staff Meeting", which had apparently been written by an American. How could I tell? Because the text used the phrase "Motion tabled" fairly often.
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2026 9:49 pm
by zompist
Just noticed another opposite in Sumerian.
-ed forms a participle in Sumerian. However, instead of being a past participle as in English, it's a future or imperative participle: e.g. sug-ed-a 'to be paid back'.
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2026 1:30 am
by Space60
There's the slang use of the word "bad" in English to mean that something is good.
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2026 11:50 am
by Man in Space
Space60 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 1:30 am
There's the slang use of the word "bad" in English to mean that something is good.
That is cross-linguistically reasonable (negative descriptor > emphatic is common, emphatic > good can be reasonable).
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2026 12:19 pm
by bradrn
See also the evolution of ‘wicked’.
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2026 2:04 pm
by Travis B.
We also see this in contemporary English with 'sick'.
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2026 3:53 pm
by Man in Space
‘Filthy’ too (filthy rich, filthy bassline).