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Re: Change My View: Jan Misali Is Kinda Bad

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 11:42 am
by Starbeam
Emily wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 1:59 am
Nortaneous wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 1:46 pm all youtubers are bad hth
except the australian guy who posts videos of the cool HO scale dioramas he makes
You thinking of Luke Towan?

Re: Change My View: Jan Misali Is Kinda Bad

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 4:00 am
by Emily
Starbeam wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 11:42 am
Emily wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 1:59 am
Nortaneous wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 1:46 pm all youtubers are bad hth
except the australian guy who posts videos of the cool HO scale dioramas he makes
You thinking of Luke Towan?
the very same!

Re: Change My View: Jan Misali Is Kinda Bad

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 10:36 am
by Starbeam
Hell yeah! Glad to see another fan of him online. I don't even possess the energy or resources to make model cities, the guy's just so enrapturing. Tho, it helps that i love model cities/ model trains.

Re: Change My View: Jan Misali Is Kinda Bad

Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 1:26 am
by Emily
i started a model diner in like, august, and it's still semi-assembled on top of a cutting board on top of my printer. i need to get around to finishing it! really all io have left at this stage is putting on the windows, and then gluing the parts together

Re: Change My View: Jan Misali Is Kinda Bad

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 7:09 am
by quinterbeck
Emily wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 1:26 am i started a model diner in like, august, and it's still semi-assembled on top of a cutting board on top of my printer. i need to get around to finishing it! really all io have left at this stage is putting on the windows, and then gluing the parts together
That sounds cool! I'd love to see it when it's done, you could post it in the daily creativity thread

Re: Change My View: Jan Misali Is Kinda Bad

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 4:45 am
by kadmii
Controversial opinion: Jan Misali and NativLang are both fine

Re: Change My View: Jan Misali Is Kinda Bad

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 5:08 pm
by Vijay
YouTube gets way too much hate IMO.

Re: Change My View: Jan Misali Is Kinda Bad

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 5:26 pm
by Starbeam
Vijay wrote: Sat May 08, 2021 5:08 pm YouTube gets way too much hate IMO.
Absolutely. It's not a replacement for education in this case, but I vastly adore the democratization of art and media. Any and all complaints about Youtube being an amateurish and abusive place need to measure up to Hollywood being supposedly the "better" option. Of course, it's only a location. It could be Newgrounds or Veoh for all i know.

Re: Change My View: Jan Misali Is Kinda Bad

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 6:11 pm
by Vijay
There are so many things I got to learn through YouTube (especially about North Korea). While it may theoretically have been possible for me to learn them in some other way, YouTube was a much more efficient resource for this purpose.

Re: Change My View: Jan Misali Is Kinda Bad

Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:20 pm
by Starbeam
Vijay wrote: Sat May 08, 2021 6:11 pm There are so many things I got to learn through YouTube (especially about North Korea). While it may theoretically have been possible for me to learn them in some other way, YouTube was a much more efficient resource for this purpose.
Please do not tell me you're the type who thinks North Korea good, instead of just not the supreme hellscape idiots think it is. Still, I would trust Youtube more on the subject than say, CNN.

Re: Change My View: Jan Misali Is Kinda Bad

Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:29 pm
by Torco
Actually I think his latest episode of conlang critic is about how the 'conlang critic' formula is kinda shite, so i mean... yeah.

Re: Change My View: Jan Misali Is Kinda Bad

Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 8:58 pm
by Vijay
Starbeam wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 7:20 pm
Vijay wrote: Sat May 08, 2021 6:11 pm There are so many things I got to learn through YouTube (especially about North Korea). While it may theoretically have been possible for me to learn them in some other way, YouTube was a much more efficient resource for this purpose.
Please do not tell me you're the type who thinks North Korea good, instead of just not the supreme hellscape idiots think it is.
Oh, no, I'd just always been curious because I'd never learned anything at all about North Korea before (other than that the capital is Pyongyang and it's some kind of communist hellhole people sometimes manage to escape from into China, which apparently has a policy to deport them). EDIT: I had also seen a picture of a few propaganda posters in Pyongyang and was vaguely familiar with the names Kim Il-Sung and Kim Jong-Il.

Re: Change My View: Jan Misali Is Kinda Bad

Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 10:55 pm
by Starbeam
I hesitate to call NK communist at all, but relief to know you're not a tankie lol. In any case, what did you watch outta curiosity?

Re: Change My View: Jan Misali Is Kinda Bad

Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 11:34 pm
by Vijay
Music videos (primarily footage of the Pochonbo Electronic Ensemble), some propaganda news reports, documentaries, videos made by and/or of defectors, video footage apparently smuggled out of North Korea (one video that made me feel traumatized was of a prison even though nothing that unusual happened in it), and I think a few travel videos

Re: Change My View: Jan Misali Is Kinda Bad

Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 6:39 pm
by Lichen
Back do conlanging for a mo: what do we think of other conlang youtubers? The likes of Biblaridion, Artifexian, DJP, etc.?

Re: Change My View: Jan Misali Is Kinda Bad

Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 4:50 pm
by Creyeditor
Conlanging is not Artifexians forte, as he admits himself.

Re: Change My View: Jan Misali Is Kinda Bad

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:09 am
by Qwynegold
I put on LangTime Studio while I'm doing dishes. Otherwise I'd never get through those videos.

Both LangTime and Biblaridion requires you to focus intensely for a very long time, or you'll get lost and have no idea what they're talking about.

I haven't watched Artifexian in a long time because he does like conworlding guides, and I'm like "yeah, I'm gonna watch that when I've gotten around to do those specific things myself", which never happens.

Re: Change My View: Jan Misali Is Kinda Bad

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:26 pm
by Torco
I very much enjoy worldbuilding notes, nakari speardane, biblaridion and nguh. xidnaf's great but doesn't produce anymore. there's also a few small channels which seem to have come out of the nguh discord. a few more were here if i remember https://youtu.be/n9_ORjsbd0M

Re: Change My View: Jan Misali Is Kinda Bad

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:51 pm
by quinterbeck
Here to say I just watched c by Jan Misali and much enjoyed the credits song:
Jan Misali wrote:the letter C has folks singing "it should be removed"
that without it the alphabet would be improved
it's a common complaint that's misguided at best
no you can't just replace C with K and with S

you know S becomes voiced intervocalically
and suffixes preserve etymology
if it's all inconsistent, why you focus on C
when the quote-unquote problem is much worse with G

if you were to cut C, then what you'd have in store
is you're left with more problems than you had before
if you learned nothing else, just remember this:
English spelling reforms break more than they can fix

Re: Change My View: Jan Misali Is Kinda Bad

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:47 pm
by Starbeam
Dumb takes in the song (who says C is the only problem?) but i admit that's a catchy tune.