Zompist Bboard Again

‘I have never eaten a single goat’ is licit for me. ‘I have never eaten one goat’ doesn’t feel quite as natural, but is still very clear to me. I think we may be dealing with interdialectal differences here rather than non-native grammar.

(That being said, I’d still go with ‘I have never eaten goat’.)

(And incidentally, it appears the previous post was the 2000th in this thread!)

lawa ambe monimuna to
NEG-IMPF see talk-IMPF-1.sg DEM.1.NS
“I don’t know what to talk about”

Man in Space wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 7:19 pm

Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 7:01 pm Really? I find that a very odd and non-native-sounding phrasing.

Example:

“Ha-ha, John likes eating goats.”
“I’ll have you know I’ve never eaten one goat!”

That is a very unusual usage, though, that only makes sense given that context. To simply deny that one has eaten goat, the normal, native-sounding phrasing would be "I've never had goat" or "I've never eaten goat".

Frankly XXX annoys me feels like i'm getting cheated out of the thread.

Cibɛkáy jiƙáz. Jiní búy ghibér kweŋwaf.

/t͡ʃibɛˈkaj d͡ʒikʻáz || d͡ʒiɲí búj ɣibér kʷeŋʷaf/
1s-NEG-agree IV.SG-thing. 1s-think CMPL MUT=M-stay M-good

I disagree. I think he’s fine.

Man in Space wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 7:19 pm “Ha-ha, John likes eating goats.”
“I’ll have you know I’ve never eaten one goat!”

I find this weird-sounding, too. He didn't read one book (presumably out of a set he was expected to read) does check out, though, oddly enough. Maybe it's a regional thing?

Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 9:48 pm

Man in Space wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 7:19 pm “Ha-ha, John likes eating goats.”
“I’ll have you know I’ve never eaten one goat!”

I find this weird-sounding, too. He didn't read one book (presumably out of a set he was expected to read) does check out, though, oddly enough. Maybe it's a regional thing?

That one feels, well, dialectal to me for some reason. I myself would be used to "He didn't read any of the books" in that case.

kakimaa me nan
alcohol-pl COP good
“Alcohol is good”

ne unsiwi kaki ni jandu
1.sg have-Npstalcohol many day+this
“Iive had many drinks today”

Travis B. wrote: ↑Sat May 13, 2023 12:00 am

Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 9:48 pm

Man in Space wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 7:19 pm “Ha-ha, John likes eating goats.”
“I’ll have you know I’ve never eaten one goat!”

I find this weird-sounding, too. He didn't read one book (presumably out of a set he was expected to read) does check out, though, oddly enough. Maybe it's a regional thing?

That one feels, well, dialectal to me for some reason. I myself would be used to "He didn't read any of the books" in that case.

I would probably say that under most circumstances; I think I would be expressing quite a lot of exasperation with "He didn't read (even) one (of the) book(s)".

Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 7:01 pm Really? I find that a very odd and non-native-sounding phrasing.

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(brain giving new words and this brain (having) new examination of speech of men...)
conlangers see differently the uses of natural languages...

foxcatdog wrote: ↑Sat May 13, 2023 2:45 am kakimaa me nan
ne unsiwi kaki ni jandu

m¿Âi½5®æ»4°¿æ
(inactive me drinking beer...)
when I have nothing to do I drink one beer/a beer/beer ...

palmi tuwa alu na ne mesa amani nisi
character main all LNK 1.sg COP.COMP like-NOM much
“All my main characters are much alike”

k¾j¯Pl³Uj±¯QQjÀU5±¯
(you having spoken perhaps of people in words and perhaps of words seen...)
you spoke about persons represented in a story, or sign used in writing...

xxx wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:29 am you spoking

Sike bey waq heŋheŋ yaaq?
/sikə bəj waʔ ɦəˑŋɦəˑŋ jaːʔ/
this Q do.IMPF funny INT

OK, is this a joke?

jÀy±¯²yQÂ
(word given by hand and not brain...)
a typo...

It's not funny it's annoying. I don't wanna go in the conlang fluency thread and see XXX's scribble and broken english he doesn't even give any pronounciation guide.

foxcatdog wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 2:03 am It's not funny it's annoying. I don't wanna go in the conlang fluency thread and see XXX's scribble and broken english he doesn't even give any pronounciation guide.

Naaya bey waq qan fawetl qaaŋ, qi maag fawetlli?
how Q do.IMPF NMLZ speak ASRT, 3s NEF speak.IMPF-CONT

How could he possibly give a pronunciation guide when it’s a purely written language?

(Also, ‘broken English’ is incredibly harsh. Probably the majority of people here aren’t native English speakers. xxx is a lot easier to understand than some people I’ve encountered online.)

ne re unsiunmini rikosi na ne
1.sg Perfect have-IMPF-Irr.Des cat-dual LNK 1.sg
“I wish i kept my cats”

a voice message for foxcatdog : https://voca.ro/1k57UAWCIonM
its broken english back translation, sorry : this sun future seeing me taking second animal (with) me...
my basic english translation: today I will adopt a second dog...

Nai zi mo va nwa mbihye wi nwa ngi.
1S=PRED RET^E consume^A all one chicken SIT.PRED one event
I ate a chicken once.

Hu u nai nye ngule hyi gwe nai nwanwa u bo dyombyu ndya zyamo ye nemi nwa vu mbihye u ya gwa.
man SIT 1S=PRED PROG^E date^A GEN.DEM and 1S=PRED individuals SIT want^A buy^A amount food EQU include^A one part chicken SIT GEN two
A guy I was dating and I each wanted to buy a meal that included half a chicken.

Dwe ngo nggyai vwevwe ngana u bwobwo gwe nanai zami zyu dwei mwendwa ze le hu hu.
DEF.PL person shop=PRED look^A GEN.1P.EXCL SIT strange^E and 1P.EXC=PRED believe^A GEN.C DEF.PL=PRED probable^E NEG^E like^A man man
The workers were looking at us weirdly and we thought that they were probably homophobic.

Mye u zyamoi lilu do, nanai vwe zyu nanai zi nwanwa u dyombyu ndya zyamo u ndei yu ndyogoi mo zyi.
but SIT food=PRED arrive^A then | 1P.EXCL see^A GEN.C 1P.EXCL RET^E individuals SIT buy^A amount food SIT goal=PRED C family=PRED consume^A GEN.DEF.SG
But when the food arrived, we saw that we had bought an entire family meal each.

Nanai nwanwa u hu da, dozye dwei mwendwa zami zyu nanai ndwa bo hyi.
1P.EXCL=PRED individuals SIT man big^E | thus DEF.PL=PRED probable^E believe^A C 1P.EXCL=PRED AFF^E want^{A GEN.DEM}
We're both big guys, so they probably thought we really wanted it (i.e. hadn't made a mistake).

bradrn wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 2:40 am (Also, ‘broken English’ is incredibly harsh. Probably the majority of people here aren’t native English speakers. xxx is a lot easier to understand than some people I’ve encountered online.)

niya tsimpaha
reason be.limp-AUG
That's a lame excuse.

His "conlang" is some fictitious jumble of random characters and has no viable explanation. Multiple questions about how it works, and copious opportunities for him to explain, and still, zero. Nothing. It's beyond annoying when the rest of the folks participating in this thread do so in good faith by providing gloss, pronunciation, etymological notes, etc. Why do you feel the need to defend what is obviously some strange attempt by him to be "mYsTeRiOuS"? How does this help the board, or you?