Zompist Bboard Again

Raholeun wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:59 am Sadly, the linked page does not load for me either. It states there is a connection time-out: "The server at bradrn.com is taking too long to respond."

Hmm… I see, thanks. Meanwhile, I tried connecting via my phone (disabling WiFi from my local network) and got the same thing. The webserver is still running and locally accessible, though.

I don’t really know what’s going on here, though it’s clearly related to the ISP. I’ll continue working on it.

bradrn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:48 am

Darren wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 3:03 am

bradrn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 12:01 am Well, I seems to have got it working, though via HTTP only: http://bradrn.com/brassica/. I’ll have to figure out how to get HTTPS working again.

Still not working for me I'm afraid.

Strange… it works for me. In more detail, what do you experience?

Yeah same as Raholeun, tries to load for a fair while and then "bradrn.com took too long to respond."

you know this stuff as well as I do

I cannot possibly express by how many orders of magnitude you are wrong in this assumption

Darren wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:13 am

you know this stuff as well as I do

I cannot possibly express by how many orders of magnitude you are wrong in this assumption

Wait, wait… somehow I thought I was talking to Travis there. Now how did I manage to make that mistake? It clearly says ‘Darren’ there, after all…

Frankly, if your new ISP is blocking incoming HTTP and HTTPS you may very well need to resort to a colo if you want to host it yourself -- however, if you're just serving static content (e.g. just JavaScript that does not talk to the server) why not just put it up on github.io or neocities.org?

The ports should now be unblocked on the ISP side. Could someone check and confirm that everything’s working now?

bradrn wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:02 am The ports should now be unblocked on the ISP side. Could someone check and confirm that everything’s working now?

Still nada for me

Although the result is different; it just keeps trying to load and eventually says "Your connection was interrupted / Your computer went to sleep. / ERR_NETWORK_IO_SUSPENDED"

And then "This site can’t be reached / bradrn.com took too long to respond."

Still down for me.
I don't get an error message -- it just keeps trying to load until timeout.

Hmm, OK. Can reproduce when I try.

At this point I really don’t know what’s going on…

Turns out I’d forgotten to setup port forwarding correctly at the router. Try again?

bradrn wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:52 am Turns out I’d forgotten to setup port forwarding correctly at the router. Try again?

It woooooooooorks! (*manic laughter*) (Or at least the connection works. I haven't tried actually doing anything yet.)

Raphael wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:59 am

bradrn wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:52 am Turns out I’d forgotten to setup port forwarding correctly at the router. Try again?

It woooooooooorks! (*manic laughter*) (Or at least the connection works. I haven't tried actually doing anything yet.)

Hallelujah! Finally!

Yep she's a back

Putting a space before a Kleene star will cause Brassica to crash.

Darren wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 1:36 am Putting a space before a Kleene star will cause Brassica to crash.

I can’t reproduce on v1.0.0.

bradrn wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 1:46 am

Darren wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 1:36 am Putting a space before a Kleene star will cause Brassica to crash.

I can’t reproduce on v1.0.0.

Ah, I was mistaken, it was following brackets

Darren wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:17 am

bradrn wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 1:46 am

Darren wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 1:36 am Putting a space before a Kleene star will cause Brassica to crash.

I can’t reproduce on v1.0.0.

Ah, I was mistaken, it was following brackets

Could you give me an example rule that causes the crash?

bradrn wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:35 am Could you give me an example rule that causes the crash?

categories
C = p t k
V = i u ü a
end

u → ü / i (C) * _

Inputting words like "pipu" and "pipktpktpktpktpktpku". I know that I could say "u → ü / i (C *) _", but I came across it when I originally had "u → ü / i (C) (C) _" and then I was like, "oh I can just use a Kleene star" and unthinkingly (the way I prefer to do things) I just stuck a * in there.

Darren wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:41 am

bradrn wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:35 am Could you give me an example rule that causes the crash?

categories
C = p t k
V = i u ü a
end

u → ü / i (C) * _

Inputting words like "pipu" and "pipktpktpktpktpktpku". I know that I could say "u → ü / i (C *) _", but I came across it when I originally had "u → ü / i (C) (C) _" and then I was like, "oh I can just use a Kleene star" and unthinkingly (the way I prefer to do things) I just stuck a * in there.

The kleene start means zero or more repetitions of a symbol (can't remember the Brassica word right now), so you can skip the brackets and have u → ü / i C* _, which turned piu pipu pipktpktpktpktpktpku to piü pipü pipktpktpktpktpktpkü when I tested it. Not that it fixes the crashing (Brassica should probably return an error here), but you should hopefully be able to run the sound changes

Lērisama wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:50 am The kleene start means zero or more repetitions of a symbol (can't remember the Brassica word right now), so you can skip the brackets and have u → ü / i C* _, which turned piu pipu pipktpktpktpktpktpku to piü pipü pipktpktpktpktpktpkü when I tested it.

Correct.

With Darren’s original, I suspect it’s going into an infinite loop (I don’t see any actual crash). I’ll try to fix it when I get time.

bradrn wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:55 am

Lērisama wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:50 am The kleene start means zero or more repetitions of a symbol (can't remember the Brassica word right now), so you can skip the brackets and have u → ü / i C* _, which turned piu pipu pipktpktpktpktpktpku to piü pipü pipktpktpktpktpktpkü when I tested it.

Correct.

With Darren’s original, I suspect it’s going into an infinite loop (I don’t see any actual crash).

Yeah, it doesn't give those error messages like the old brassica did, it just freezes up and eventually the page goes blank.

I’ll try to fix it when I get time.

It's not a major worry, it's just I would of lost my sound changes if I hadn't already saved them which is annoying.