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Re: English questions
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2025 10:56 am
by Raphael
Lērisama wrote: ↑Sun Oct 26, 2025 10:53 am
I¹'d say
Operating Theatre, or just
Theatre with enough context.
¹ With pretty standard SSBE, although I have enough experience of hospitals that “enough context” for me would be less than for an average person.
Thank you! Everyone else?
Re: English questions
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2025 11:17 am
by Travis B.
Raphael wrote: ↑Sun Oct 26, 2025 10:56 am
Lērisama wrote: ↑Sun Oct 26, 2025 10:53 am
I¹'d say
Operating Theatre, or just
Theatre with enough context.
¹ With pretty standard SSBE, although I have enough experience of hospitals that “enough context” for me would be less than for an average person.
Thank you! Everyone else?
In everyday speech I'm used to
Operating Room; the term
Operating Theater has a rather formal, technical feel to me.
Re: English questions
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2025 11:35 am
by Raphael
Travis B. wrote: ↑Sun Oct 26, 2025 11:17 am
In everyday speech I'm used to
Operating Room; the term
Operating Theater has a rather formal, technical feel to me.
Thank you, too!
Re: English questions
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2025 11:53 am
by Richard W
My usage, geographically unexpectedly, is as Lerisama's, except I wouldn't capitalise the words.
Re: English questions
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2025 12:14 pm
by Travis B.
Richard W wrote: ↑Sun Oct 26, 2025 11:53 am
My usage, geographically unexpectedly, is as Lerisama's, except I wouldn't capitalise the words.
On second thought, I probably wouldn't capitalize it either.
Re: English questions
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2025 12:29 pm
by Lērisama
Richard W wrote: ↑Sun Oct 26, 2025 11:53 am
My usage, geographically unexpectedly, is as Lerisama's, except I wouldn't capitalise the words.
My capitalisation habits are a bit odd; I wouldn't take that capitalisation as informative about anyone else's usage at all.
Re: English questions
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2025 12:31 pm
by Raphael
Thank you!
Re: English questions
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2025 3:18 pm
by alice
"operating theatre", as a plain "theatre" might be confused with live performances or war, although some might argue that's what it is on some level .
Re: English questions
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2025 3:34 pm
by anteallach
alice wrote: ↑Sun Oct 26, 2025 3:18 pm
"operating theatre", as a plain "theatre" might be confused with live performances or war, although some might argue that's what it is on some level .
... but it could be plain "theatre" if the context makes it clear.
Re: English questions
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 10:06 am
by jal
I (ESL speaker) hadn't heard of "operating theatre", only of "operating room/OR", probably by watching ER and Grey's Anatomy where they're only ever called "OR" as far as I recall (my progressive hearing loss has made it more difficult to pick up terminology from spoken word).
JAL
Re: English questions
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:03 am
by /ˌnɐ.ˈɾɛn.dɚ.ˌduːd/
Operating Room, unless we're talking about some fancy hospital that's reserved for celebrities and important people that costs a lot more than the average hospital, in which case it's Operating Theatre. Considering I'm not an important person and don't know anyone who is, Operating Room (or just OR) works better in my mind, also because that's what it was referred to during my visit when I broke my leg. It also helps to disambiguate between actual theaters, which are often referred to as theatres where I live.
Re: English questions
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:05 am
by Raphael
/ˌnɐ.ˈɾɛn.dɚ.ˌduːd/ wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:03 am
Operating Room, unless we're talking about some fancy hospital that's reserved for celebrities and important people that costs a lot more than the average hospital, in which case it's Operating Theatre. Considering I'm not an important person and don't know anyone who is, Operating Room (or just OR) works better in my mind, also because that's what it was referred to during my visit when I broke my leg. It also helps to disambiguate between actual theaters, which are often referred to as theatres where I live.
Thank you!
Re: English questions
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:24 am
by bradrn
I think ‘Operating Theatre’ would be the usual term for me, but it’s not a thing I refer to often enough to be really sure.
Re: English questions
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:47 am
by Raphael
Thank you, too!
(What I find a bit weird about the thing described is that in German it's called an "Operationssaal", which, at least in my opinion, implies some kind of large hall ("Saal"), which, of course, doesn't really fit.)
Re: English questions
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 12:33 pm
by Richard W
bradrn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:24 am
I think ‘Operating Theatre’ would be the usual term for me, but it’s not a thing I refer to often enough to be really sure.
We may have a difference between the Commonwealth and the US here.
Re: English questions
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 12:40 pm
by Raphael
Richard W wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 12:33 pm
bradrn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:24 am
I think ‘Operating Theatre’ would be the usual term for me, but it’s not a thing I refer to often enough to be really sure.
We may have a difference between the Commonwealth and the US here.
Hm? bradrn and you are both from Commonwealth countries.
Re: English questions
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 12:50 pm
by Lērisama
/ˌnɐ.ˈɾɛn.dɚ.ˌduːd/ wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:03 am
It also helps to disambiguate between actual theaters, which are often referred to as theatres where I live.
What else would a theatre be called? I'm not aware of anything else to call them.
(And since neither type of theatre is particularly common, and they appear in
very different contexts, I wouldn't expect people to confuse where an operation happens and where you go to see a play, although since where disambiguation strikes outside of very common domains is as random as the rest of language change this doesn't mean much.)
Edit: I messed up the quoting. Twice.
Re: English questions
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 12:55 pm
by Richard W
Raphael wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 12:40 pm
Richard W wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 12:33 pm
bradrn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:24 am
I think ‘Operating Theatre’ would be the usual term for me, but it’s not a thing I refer to often enough to be really sure.
We may have a difference between the Commonwealth and the US here.
Hm? bradrn and you are both from Commonwealth countries.
/ˌnɐ.ˈɾɛn.dɚ.ˌduːd/ had just contradicted Bradn.
Re: English questions
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 12:59 pm
by Lērisama
(Moved here from Ephemera, because I'm contributing nothing to that discussion)
Travis B. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 12:47 pm
Raphael wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:54 am
Travis B. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:28 am
Mind you, in West Germany there still was the likes of the
Historikerstreit, where prominent conservative historians essentially tried to apologize for the Holocaust.
I think you mean "come up with apologetics for"
Which is a meaning of 'apologize' in English, if a somewhat formal, literary meaning.
Interestingly, I'd have to say “apologise the Holocaust” rather than “apologise
for the Holocaust” to intend that meaning.
Re: English questions
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 1:12 pm
by bradrn
Lērisama wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 12:59 pm
Travis B. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 12:47 pm
Raphael wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:54 am
I think you mean "come up with apologetics for"
Which is a meaning of 'apologize' in English, if a somewhat formal, literary meaning.
Interestingly, I'd have to say “apologise the Holocaust” rather than “apologise
for the Holocaust” to intend that meaning.
I did notice that too.