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Re: United States Politics Thread 46

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2025 10:38 pm
by MacAnDàil
MacAnDàil wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 9:13 am Now that Trump has come out against EVs, will Musk switch to Chase?
OK, it turned out to be about spending, not EVs, and he will more likely found a new party, but the idea of Musk breaking with Trump was there.
zompist wrote: Thu Jun 05, 2025 3:30 pm They may well make up, and yeah, it'll involve Musk kissing Trump's ring or something worse. But not quickly. To the extent Trump needed musk to move fast and break things... well, they're all broken now. I suspect even Trump realizes that Musk is now not only a political liability, but a disloyal one.
And disloyalty is one thing that Trump particularly dispreciates.

Re: United States Politics Thread 46

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2025 12:22 pm
by TomHChappell
There’s a “Native Plants” movement—(sorry, it has a real name, but I can’t recall it at the moment)—that helps people re-populate their land with plants that are native to North America (particularly the parts of the continent that are in the territories of the contiguous United States).
There’s a website (can’t remember the URL), county-by-county or parish-by-parish or, I suppose, in some cases borough-by-borough, on which one can type in one’s property’s ZIP code, and find out which kinds of plants are “native” to their own property.
The advantage to cultivating such plants is, they’re already resistant to likely weather and climate, and to likely pests (of whatever phyla) there might be in that locality. And they need no or very little fertilizer (especially artificial or synthetic fertilizer); and no or little watering. And animals that are pests when growing non-native plants — animal such as rats and squirrels and ants — will help the native plants grow and propagate. The planter may (or may not!) need to keep a careful eye on the plant for the first year or so; thereafter the plant and its neighbors (of whichever taxonomic kingdom) will take pretty good care of it thereafter.

In some cases, when/where there is a hazard the plant is not already inured to, it can be defended by growing another species of native plant near it.

The plants can be pretty ornamentals, or pretty garden-crops, among other possibilities. I haven’t read anything about growing them megafarm-style (or at least in high-yield plantations), but I gathered it can be done.

If most (67%? or 90%?) of the land currently being cultivated using non-ecology-friendly methods such as massive irrigation or tonnes of petrochemicals or other synthetic fertilizers and/or pesticides, can be switched over to grow native plants instead, the pollution of land and water, and the depletion of fertile land and potable (and otherwise useful) water, could be reduced, so much that it would no longer be the leading cause of such damage to the ecosystem.

Or at least that’s what I thought the interviewees on PBS and NPR and the internet were saying or implying!

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So, in some fashion, the damage could be stopped. Or at least slowed down enough to put “doomsday” off until the 22nd century.
Not all the damage that’s already been done can be undone; indeed, it’s not unlikely that most of it can’t be undone.

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I think that’s relevant to what’s being discussed here on this thread.

Re: United States Politics Thread 46

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2025 2:50 pm
by alice
According to some, the Great Fallout has been staged to flush out disloyal followers.

Re: United States Politics Thread 46

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2025 3:41 pm
by zompist
I think people are referring to things earlier in this thread, which is fine. But the titles are not just filler. President 46 is Biden, President 47 is Trump. Try to keep current musings in the Trump thread.