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Ryusenshi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:05 pmWord of the day for me: a stan, meaning an obsessive fan of something (particularly a music genre or artist). Related: to stan, to obsessively follow something. It comes from the song "Stan" by Eminem. Considering how the song ends, this is pretty terrifying.

Linguoboy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:58 am "Protesters reportedly equipped with hammers and crowbars, donned in helmets and gas masks..."

The usage of "donned in" is novel to me. Like "wear" or "sport", "don" is an exclusively transitive verb that should need no preposition to take an object. I also came across examples of "donned with", which were similarly recent. (So far, nothing earlier than 2013.)

Moose-tache wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:28 am Travis: does your daughter go to a school with lots of L2 English speakers? I've found that de-fricatized (is word?) /D/ is a feature of ESL English that very readily spreads to L1 speakers. There are studies of Asian Americans demonstrating that this change persists even among generations that grow up speaking only English fluently.

• Yesterday a coworker gave a presentation via Zoom and I'd never heard so clearly how heavily he aspirates certain stops. Word-initial /k/ before back vowels consistently sounded like [kˣ], and his initial /h/ even tended toward [x]. /t/ and /p/ were fairly heavily aspirated, too, but not to the point of affrication. (He's from Michigan originally and visits often.)
• Today a friend kept referring to the magazine she was reading as a "book". I was genuinely confused whether it was a periodical or a monograph.

Linguoboy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:07 pm Today a friend kept referring to the magazine she was reading as a "book". I was genuinely confused whether it was a periodical or a monograph.

Moose-tache wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:49 am

Linguoboy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:07 pm Today a friend kept referring to the magazine she was reading as a "book". I was genuinely confused whether it was a periodical or a monograph.

You may have already figured this out, but this is fashion terminology. It's long been standard to refer to fashion magazines as "books."

Linguoboy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:24 pmI don't know if the speaker was native or not, but I just saw someone use "paint" to mean "draw with chalk". (I can only use "paint" with liquids.)

Travis B. wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:32 am I have been paying attention more closely to how other people speak, and it appears that a lot of people palatalize and affricate their /t/s before stressed /u ɜr/, much moreso than I had thought before. If anything my own speech is weird because I do not nearly as noticeabily palatalize and affricate in these cases (whereas I do strongly palatalize and affricate /t/ before unstressed /ər/).

Linguoboy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:07 pm

• Yesterday a coworker gave a presentation via Zoom and I'd never heard so clearly how heavily he aspirates certain stops. Word-initial /k/ before back vowels consistently sounded like [kˣ], and his initial /h/ even tended toward [x]. /t/ and /p/ were fairly heavily aspirated, too, but not to the point of affrication. (He's from Michigan originally and visits often.)

anteallach wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:30 am

Travis B. wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:32 am I have been paying attention more closely to how other people speak, and it appears that a lot of people palatalize and affricate their /t/s before stressed /u ɜr/, much moreso than I had thought before. If anything my own speech is weird because I do not nearly as noticeabily palatalize and affricate in these cases (whereas I do strongly palatalize and affricate /t/ before unstressed /ər/).

When you say "affricate", do you mean an actual sibilant affricate of the [tʃ] type?

My impression of my own speech is that /t/ often has a noisy enough release, especially before high vowels, that it could be thought of as non-sibilant affrication, but except before /r/ (in which case I prefer the analysis for my own speech that it has actually become /tʃ/) and /j/ (which would include many words where you just have /tu/) there's no assibilation.

In general, ages young northwards on the Kerguelen Plateau, from ~119 MA at site 1136 in the south, to ~34 MA at site 1140 in the north.

sasasha wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:57 am

Ser wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:42 am "Doomscrolling." Just came across this term. The oldest entry in Urban Dictionary, from March this year (2020), defines it as "Obsessively reading social media posts about how utterly fucked we are. Although I like a more depressing definition entered in June: "Doomscrolling is scrolling through Twitter in 2020 becoming sadder the further through you scroll. There is no end."

It is one of those activitity nouns in -ing, like "mountain hiking", which can enter the "be + [word]-ing" construction, even though you don't normally say *I mountain-hiked (or *I doomscrolled). Common collocations include "to be doomscrolling" and "to stop/quit doomscrolling".

I doomscrolled all day (true story).

This is way more natural to me than 'I mountain-hiked...'. I wonder why.