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"Di Ol Langwic a Yurop, im in di de, oba ray mi a mek langwic ota im."
"The old language of Europe, it didn't exist, but nevertheless I'm making a language from it."


JAL

Manama am acvathsa so cvathamad paleoeurøpirenamad.
think-3SG:P-1SG:A that AOR-speak-3SG:A he language-ABL Paleo-European-ABL
'I think he spoke about a Paleo-European language.'

OK, sëndzai vietra veełne kilgaś Ukrajinain. Vall?
/owkej | sənˈtʂʼeə̯ ˈetər ˈvijɭən ˈkilgɪɕ ʔuwkəˈɭijnɪn || ˈvallə/
OK, the old language of probably somewhere in Ukraine. Better?

Dis sapos, o fo lis it mek sim, it ja soso wan wan langwic da.
This assumes, or at least makes it look like, there was just a single language there.


JAL

santil wipìŋèlf, èk gikalhördeqou rèn agendourêpiên,
/sœnˈtil i.pɪŋˈɛlf ˈɛk ɡi.kœlˈhøɹd.qo ˈrɛn œ.ɡen.do.ɹə.piˈən/
No WeepingElf, he is talking about an Indo-European language.

No, hi pratt oss a hoautig Basskiess spraking.
No, he's talking about an ancient dialect of Basque.

mèþru wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:55 am santil wipìŋèlf, èk gikalhördeqou rèn agendourêpiên,
/sœnˈtil i.pɪŋˈɛlf ˈɛk ɡi.kœlˈhøɹd.qo ˈrɛn œ.ɡen.do.ɹə.piˈən/
No WeepingElf, he is talking about an Indo-European language.

Sa, cvathsa Marchalendirinid, hatal mununthul "Proto-Indo-Eurøpirin".
Yes, speak-3SG:A horse-plain-ish-ABL, now call-VN-LOC "Proto-Indo-European".
'Yes, he speaks about Horselandish, now called "Proto-Indo-European".

(Marchalanda 'Horseland' is a country in Elvish mythology, located in what is now Ukraine.)

Fo ray, Indo-Yuropiyan u soso bakbil sapos langwic, im neba de fo ray (fo lis no ina bakbil mol).
Of course, Indo-European is just a reconstructed theoretical language, that didn't actually exist (at least in the reconstructed form).


JAL

Apasir Tollitiua î courir a.
/ˈapɪsɪɹ ˈtolːɪtʏwa ɪi ˈkʏʊɹɪɹ a/
be.related.to-3s language-Lithuania SUBJ.COMPL seem.to.be-3s 1s.
To me, it looks like it's related to Lithuanian.

Solo sen niouttar odair na.
/ˈsolʊ sən ˈɲʏʊtːaɹ ˈoðɛaɹ na/
but NEG.3s resound-3s like 3s.
But it doesn't sound like it.

edan malimwa yibak biqamal
do-1s word-PL-ACC anew-COM BEN-Amal
I am making new words for Amal.

Suk arok at suto mai?
How many words do you have?

Dē Graut Bʉr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:27 am Suk arok at suto mai?
How many words do you have?

shokla
Not many.

bibushun neshan daho edek
For this reason, I need to make more.

ta sosqulkos-es, solujus sukekopsumboq tum. pabanqesisu, soppus.
also INAN-SG-language-ABS=TOP, INAN-word-ABS 3sg.INAN.A-cause.to.be.few-INTRANS-PST.CNV too.much. 1sg.A-make-ACT-NPST.CNV INAN-good-ABS
Proto-Yonutian, too, has too few words. I should make more.

Dem woh du dem nof ahcip ting wen yu a mek mekop langwic.
Words are the most difficult things when you're creating a conlang.


JAL

jal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:58 am Words are the most difficult things when you're creating a conlang.

abhanla...
I don't agree...

inyan ma shambal gushélwa.
I believe that grammar is the most difficult.

masako wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:33 amI believe that grammar is the most difficult.

Dis mata bo fo-yu difayn. Grama u ahcip, ye, oba im af, fo mos, finis. Woh geda, pon oda say, in don no taym. An mata bo fo-yu langwic woh mek mana, it a ahcip pas mek grama.
That depends on your definition. Grammar is difficult, yes, but it is, mostly, final. Vocab on the other hand is never done. And depending on the way word formation works in your language, it can be more difficult than grammar.


JAL

jal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:54 pm Fo ray, Indo-Yuropiyan u soso bakbil sapos langwic, im neba de fo ray (fo lis no ina bakbil mol).
Of course, Indo-European is just a reconstructed theoretical language, that didn't actually exist (at least in the reconstructed form).


JAL

That nist derb. Stōth sāthē sa Indo-Eoreipeh; hit uas derbē sāth, ēn tungo sāth! That uāis sagd betisō, alsa lageth ciō an ui hit uitn.
That's not true. Indo-European really did exist; it truly was real, a real language! It's just that our knowledge of it is uncertain.
[lit. "That isn't true. The Indo-European really stood; it was truely real, a real tongue. That would better have been said as that a mist lies upon us knowing it."]

[...well that was harder to say than I expected. I'm not certain about some of the constructions used here - they're grammatical, but I'm not certain yet whether they're idiomatic.]

Salmoneus wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:10 am [...well that was harder to say than I expected. I'm not certain about some of the constructions used here - they're grammatical, but I'm not certain yet whether they're idiomatic.]

Dē burr oss oss allhyt. Dē atig huing oss ossfinntē dē gutspryking oss dē jiess tall iss brykē dē. Dass ji bifautē iss nitausbigatig.
That happens to all of us. The only way to find out what's idiomatic in you language is to use it. Making mistakes is inevitable.

Chádóit, élg-duimí. Ádeir lhíndhe méog áit en cuamón no. Nuégh beit mé máis táib cóm síc de mib—líochlúr ceód tiúm—ác táib uathais mib gú áns arís. [listen ]
Hello, everyone. I've finally migrated to this new forum. I don't know if y'all remember me—probably some of you—but I'm glad to be back.

Cápeón mé gú ios en crúsílá de fógáigh—eirtám en fógsfeir—gú táib deigra misiol nuamír fórber mé muinn ténnegh. [listen ]
I think it's the creation of words—particularly the etymologies—that holds the most challenge for me when developing my languages.

Gutgikimmt! Ig biwet dē jiess nam. Hyē ji somm warrm wass oss fúless!
Welcome! I remember your name. Have some hot water with leaves!