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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:49 pm
by Birdlang
I think I finally came up with one
/m n ɲ ŋ/ m n ñ ŋ
/p b t d c ɟ k g q ʔ/ p b t d ţ ḑ k g q ɜ
/f v θ ð s z ʃ ʒ ɕ ʑ ç ʝ x ɣ χ ʁ ħ ʕ h/ f v þ ð s z š ž ś ź ŝ ẑ x ɣ x̌ ɣ̌ ḥ ɛ h
/ts dz tʃ dʒ tɕ dʑ cç ɟʝ kx gɣ/ c ʒ č ǯ ć ʒ́ ĉ ʒ̂ ꝁ ǥ
/l ɭ~ɽ~ɖ~ɖʲ ʎ ɾ r j ɥ w ɰ/ l ḍ ǰ r ɍ j ĵ w ŵ
/ɬʲ~ʎ̝̊ ɮʲ~ʎ̝/ ƚ ⱡ
/i iː y yː u uː ɪ ɪː ʊ ʊː e eː ø øː o oː ə əː ɛ ɛː œ œː ʌ ʌː ɔ ɔː a aː/ i ī y ȳ u ū į į̄ ų ų̄ e ē ö ȫ o ō ä ǟ ę ę̄ ǫ̈ ǫ̈̄ ą̈ ą̈̄ ǫ ǭ a ā
Thing is
Consonants
The open e and reverse open e idea came from Tamazight and other Berber languages.
Vowels
Macron for length
Ogonek for lowering.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 2:48 pm
by Karch
m n̪ n ɳ ɲ ŋ <m nh n rn ny ng>
p b pʰ t̪ d̪ t̪ʰ t d tʰ ʈ ɖ ʈʰ t͡ɕ d͡ʑ t͡ɕʰ k g kʰ <p b p' th dh th' t d t' rt rd rt' ty dy ty' k g k'>
f v s z ʂ ʐ ɣ x <f v s z rs rz gh x>
ɾ ɽ l ɭ ɻ <rh rr l rl r>
w j <w y>
a i u + length <a i u aa ii uu>
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:48 pm
by Knit Tie
Another lang from the same family as the last one!
m n̪ n ɳ ɲ ŋ
p b pʰ t̪ d̪ t̪ʰ t d tʰ ʈ ɖ ʈʰ k g kʰ
t͡ɕ d͡ʑ t͡ɕʰ ʈ͡ʂ ɖ͡ʐ ʈ͡ʂʰ t͡ɬ t͡ɬʰ ʈ͡ꞎ ʈ͡ꞎʰ
f v s z ʂ ʐ ɬ ꞎ ɣ x
ɾ ɽ l ɭ
w j
a e i u + length
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:08 pm
by Karch
m n̪ n ɳ ɲ ŋ <m nh n rn ny ng>
p b pʰ t̪ d̪ t̪ʰ t d tʰ ʈ ɖ ʈʰ k g kʰ <p b p' th dh th' t d t' rt rd rt' k g k'>
t͡ɕ d͡ʑ t͡ɕʰ ʈ͡ʂ ɖ͡ʐ ʈ͡ʂʰ t͡ɬ t͡ɬʰ ʈ͡ꞎ ʈ͡ꞎʰ <ty dy ty' rty rdy rty' tl tl' rtl rtl'>
f v s z ʂ ʐ ɬ ꞎ ɣ x <f v s z rs rz hl rhl gh x>
ɾ ɽ l ɭ <r rr l rl>
w j <w y>
a e i u + length <a e i u aa ee ii uu>
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:21 pm
by bradrn
A different approach, using diacritics:
/m n̪ n ɳ ɲ ŋ/ ⟨m ṋ n ṇ ń ŋ⟩
/p b pʰ t̪ d̪ t̪ʰ t d tʰ ʈ ɖ ʈʰ k g kʰ/ ⟨p b ph t d th ṭ ḍ ṭh k h kg⟩
/t͡ɕ d͡ʑ t͡ɕʰ ʈ͡ʂ ɖ͡ʐ ʈ͡ʂʰ t͡ɬ t͡ɬʰ ʈ͡ꞎ ʈ͡ꞎʰ/ ⟨ć đ ćh č j čh ƛ ƛh ƛ̣ ƛ̣h⟩
/f v s z ʂ ʐ ɬ ꞎ ɣ x/ ⟨f v s z š ž ł ł̣ ɣ x⟩
/ɾ ɽ l ɭ/ ⟨r ṛ l ḷ⟩
/w j / ⟨w y⟩
/a e i u aː eː iː uː/ ⟨a e i u ā ē ī ū⟩
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:33 am
by bradrn
We haven’t had a language with clicks here in a while:
Non-click consonants:
/m n̪ n ɲ ŋ ŋʷ/
/mˀ n̪ˀ nˀ ɲˀ ŋˀ ŋʷˀ/
/p t̪ t c k kʷ q ʔ/
/pʼ t̪ʼ tʼ cʼ kʼ kʷʼ qʼ/
/pʰ t̪ʰ tʰ cʰ kʰ kʷʰ qʰ/
/ᵐb ⁿd̪ ⁿd ᶮɟ ᵑg ᵑgʷ/
/b d̪ d ɟ g gʷ/
/f θ s χ~ʁ h/
/v ð z/
/j ɰ w/
/jˀ ɰˀ wˀ/
/l ʎ/
/lˀ ʎˀ/
/ɬ tɬ tɬʼ/
Click consonants:
/ǀ ǃ ǂ ǁ/, with the following manners of articulation:
- Tenuis: /ǀ ǃ ǂ ǁ/
- Nasalised: /ᵑǀ ᵑǃ ᵑǂ ᵑǁ/
- Glottalised: /ᵑǀˀ ᵑǃˀ ᵑǂˀ ᵑǁˀ/
- Aspirated: /ǀʰ ǃʰ ǂʰ ǁʰ/
- Voiced: /ᶢǀ ᶢǃ ᶢǂ ᶢǁ/
- Fricated: /ǀ͡x ǃ͡x ǂ͡x ǁ͡x/
- Ejective-contour: /ǀ͡qʼ ǃ͡qʼ ǂ͡qʼ ǁ͡qʼ/
Vowels: /a e i o u ə ã ə̃ ĩ ũ a͡i e͡i ə͡i ə͡u o͡u/
(long vowels can also occur, but only as sequences of vowels across two syllables)
Phonotactics: (C)V(C), where click consonants cannot appear at the end of a word. Consonant clusters are forbidden, even between syllables. Alveolar and lateral clicks can only occur before one of the back vowels /ə o u ə̃ ũ ə͡i ə͡u o͡u/.
Sample text:
(Made up, since this is just a phonology)
/ǀ͡qʼa͡ib θə̃ʎə͡iŋʷ ᵑǃˀəqʰaɰ ǁuðis t̪ãᵑǁə͡i ʁeʔũ ɬa.amˀe lə ᶢǂosob ǀ͡xaŋˀ/
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:48 am
by Nortaneous
/m n̪ n ɲ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m nh n ñ ng ngu->
/mˀ n̪ˀ nˀ ɲˀ ŋˀ ŋʷˀ/ <mx nhx nx ñx ngx ngxu->
/p t̪ t c k kʷ q ʔ/ <p th t c k ku- kh x>
/pʼ t̪ʼ tʼ cʼ kʼ kʷʼ qʼ/ <px thx tx cx kx kxu- khx>
/pʰ t̪ʰ tʰ cʰ kʰ kʷʰ qʰ/ <ph dth dh ch gh ghu- gkh>
/ᵐb ⁿd̪ ⁿd ᶮɟ ᵑg ᵑgʷ/ <mb ndh nd nj nk nku->
/b d̪ d ɟ g gʷ/ <b dh d j g gu->
/f θ s χ~ʁ h/ <f sh s r h>
/v ð z/ <v zh z>
/j ɰ w/ <i hi u>
/jˀ ɰˀ wˀ/ <ix hix ux>
/l ʎ/ <l ll>
/lˀ ʎˀ/ <lx llx>
/ɬ tɬ tɬʼ/ <lh tl tlx>
Cu# = ùC
Tenuis: /ǀ ǃ ǂ ǁ/ <dq tq cq lq>
Nasalised: /ᵑǀ ᵑǃ ᵑǂ ᵑǁ/ <n...>
Glottalised: /ᵑǀˀ ᵑǃˀ ᵑǂˀ ᵑǁˀ/ <n...x>
Aspirated: /ǀʰ ǃʰ ǂʰ ǁʰ/ <...h>
Voiced: /ᶢǀ ᶢǃ ᶢǂ ᶢǁ/ <g...>
Fricated: /ǀ͡x ǃ͡x ǂ͡x ǁ͡x/ <...r>
Ejective-contour: /ǀ͡qʼ ǃ͡qʼ ǂ͡qʼ ǁ͡qʼ/ <...x>
Vowels: /a e i o u ə ã ə̃ ĩ ũ a͡i e͡i ə͡i ə͡u o͡u/
<a e i o u à â ê î û ai ei oi eu ou>
Sample text:
(Made up, since this is just a phonology)
/ǀ͡qʼa͡ib θə̃ʎə͡iŋʷ ᵑǃˀəqʰaɰ ǁuðis t̪ãᵑǁə͡i ʁeʔũ ɬa.amˀe lə ᶢǂosob ǀ͡xaŋˀ/
dqxaib shêlloiùng ntqxàgkhaìh lquzhis thânlqoi rexû lhaämxe là gcqosob dqrangx
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:05 pm
by dɮ the phoneme
/p t tɬ ts ʈ tʂ tɕ k q ʔ/
/p’ t’ tɬ’ ts’ ʈ’ tʂ’ tɕ’ k’ q’/
/tʰ tɬʰ tsʰ ʈʰ tʂʰ tɕʰ kʰ qʰ/
/b d dɮ dz ɖ dʐ dʑ/
/ɓ ɗ/
/f ɬ s ʂ ɕ x χ/
/v ð l r j ɣ ʁ/
/m n ɳ ɲ ŋ/
/i y ɨ˞ ẽ ɚ ɤ o õ ɛ œ ɛ̃ œ̃ ɜ̃ ɔ̃ a a˞ ã/
/11 23 14 54 342 512/ tones
(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)CV maximal syllable structure
/pðã14 ŋsrœ̃342 di23ɗɤ11 mrtʂ’k’ɛ512 ɕvõ11 dza11 tʰa11ʂɖɚ11 ti512 ʂqʰœ̃14 ŋɛ11 ɣu54 ɳɖra14lɨ˞512 dɮɛ11 ʔny11 sχɳdʐo512/
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:36 am
by bradrn
For the consonants I used a variant of Pinyin, similar to that used for
Nuosu and
Naxi:
/p t tɬ ts ʈ tʂ tɕ k q ʔ/ ⟨b d dl z rd zh j g ǧ ʔ⟩
/p’ t’ tɬ’ ts’ ʈ’ tʂ’ tɕ’ k’ q’/ ⟨pʼ tʼ tlʼ cʼ rtʼ chʼ qʼ kʼ ǩʼ⟩
/tʰ tɬʰ tsʰ ʈʰ tʂʰ tɕʰ kʰ qʰ/ ⟨t tl c rt ch q k ǩ⟩
/b d dɮ dz ɖ dʐ dʑ/ ⟨bb dd ddl zz rdd rr jj⟩
/ɓ ɗ/ ⟨ƃ ƌ⟩
/f ɬ s ʂ ɕ x χ/ ⟨f lh s sh x h ȟ⟩
/v ð l r j ɣ ʁ/ ⟨v đ l r y ḥ ḥ̌⟩
/m n ɳ ɲ ŋ/ ⟨m n rn ny ŋ⟩
Ambiguous grapheme sequences may be broken up by apostrophes, e.g. /rɖa/ ⟨r’rdda⟩, /d͡ʐda/ ⟨rr’dda⟩
Vowels: /i y ɨ˞ ẽ ɚ ɤ o õ ɛ œ ɛ̃ œ̃ ɜ̃ ɔ̃ a a˞ ã/ ⟨i ü ir én ér ö ó ón e ë en ën ön on a ar an⟩
(I feel that there should be an ⟨o⟩ as well, in addition to the ⟨ö ó ón ön on⟩ already present, but I’m not sure where to put it…)
Tones are marked with tone numbers at the end of each syllable: /11 23 14 54 342 512/ ⟨-¹ -² -³ -⁴ -⁵ -⁶⟩. ⟨-¹⟩ may be omitted at the end of a word, otherwise all tones are marked.
Sample text:
/pðã14 ŋsrœ̃342 di23ɗɤ11 mrtʂ’k’ɛ512 ɕvõ11 dza11 tʰa11ʂɖɚ11 ti512 ʂqʰœ̃14 ŋɛ11 ɣu54 ɳɖra14lɨ˞512 dɮɛ11 ʔny11 sχɳdʐo512/
⟨bđan³ ŋsrën⁵ ddi²ƌö mrchʼkʼe⁶ xvón zza ta¹shrddér ti⁶ shǩën³ ŋe ḥu⁴ rnrd’dra³lir⁶ ddle ʔnü sȟrnrró⁶⟩
(Note: this sample text contains a vowel /u/ (in /ɣu54/) which is unlisted in the vowel list above. I have transcribed it with ⟨u⟩ for now.)
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:11 am
by Travis B.
/m n ɳ ɲ ŋ ŋʷ ɴ/
/mb nd ɲɟ ŋg ŋgʷ/
/b d ɟ g gʷ/
/p t c k kʷ q qʷ ʔ/
/pʰ tʰ cʰ kʰ kʷʰ qʰ qʷʰ/
/mbʐ mbʑ ndz ɳdʐ ɲdʑ/
/bʐ bʑ dz dʐ dʑ/
/pʂ pɕ ts tʂ tɕ/
/pʂʰ pɕʰ tsʰ tʂʰ tɕʰ/
/z ʐ ʑ/
/ʍ s ʂ ɕ ɬ ç h/
/ɻ l/
/ɻ̥/
/w j/
/i y ɯ u/
/e ø ɤ o/
/ɛ/
/a ɑ/
/ie yø ɯɤ uo/
/eˤ øˤ ɤˤ oˤ/
/ɛˤ œˤ ʌˤ ɔˤ/
/æˤ/
/ɑˤ/
/iɛˤ yœˤ ɯʌˤ uɔˤ/
There is no tone or quantity.
Note that the only permissible codas are /h ʔ ɴ ɻ w j/, and /ɴ/ never appears in syllable onsets. The syllable structure is C(j)V(C). Note that before coda /ɻ j/ the only permissible vowels are /ɛ e ø i y ie yø æˤ ɛˤ œˤ eˤ øˤ iɛˤ yœˤ/ and before coda /w/ the only permissible vowels are /ɑ ɤ o ɯ u ɯɤ uo ɑˤ ʌˤ ɔˤ ɤˤ oˤ ɯʌˤ uɔ/. Also note that diphthongs may not follow /j/ which follows another consonant.
/cʰah qʷoɴ ɕɑʔ ʔiɴ pʰo jɛ na tsa jo ɟøʔ huo pʂøʔ jɛ ʍuoʔ ɳdʐøʔ jɛ kjoh kɑ jɛ ta huo joʔ bøʔ na tsʰyj bja jɛ na tsa jo jo na tsʰyj ɳdʐɑɴ jɛ/
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:31 pm
by Nortaneous
/m n ɳ ɲ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n mr ny ng ngu->
/mb nd ɲɟ ŋg ŋgʷ/ <mb md mgy mg mgu->
/b d ɟ g gʷ/ <b d gy g gu->
/p t c k kʷ q qʷ ʔ/ <p t ky k ku- kl klu- 0>
/pʰ tʰ cʰ kʰ kʷʰ qʰ qʷʰ/ <sp st sky sk sku- skl sklu->
/mbʐ mbʑ ndz ɳdʐ ɲdʑ/ <mbr mby mdz mgr mgy>
/bʐ bʑ dz dʐ dʑ/ <br by bz gr by>
/pʂ pɕ ts tʂ tɕ/ <pr py ps kr py>
/pʂʰ pɕʰ tsʰ tʂʰ tɕʰ/ <spr spy sps skr spy>
/z ʐ ʑ/ <z zr zy>
/ʍ s ʂ ɕ ɬ ç h/ <f/sw s sr fy sl sy h>
/ɻ l/ <r l>
/ɻ̥/ <fr>
/w j/ <w i>
/i y ɯ u/ <i u i u>
/e ø ɤ o/ <e o e o>
/ɛ/ <a>
/a ɑ/ <ā/a a>
/ie yø ɯɤ uo/ <ē ō ē ō>
/eˤ.../ <ḥi...>
/h ʔ ɴ ɻ w~j 0/
After front vowels: <s t n l i d>
After back vowels: <h k ng r u g>
/cʰah qʷoɴ ɕɑʔ ʔiɴ pʰo jɛ na tsa jo ɟøʔ huo pʂøʔ jɛ ʍuoʔ ɳdʐøʔ jɛ kjoh kɑ jɛ ta huo joʔ bøʔ na tsʰyj bja jɛ na tsa jo jo na tsʰyj ɳdʐɑɴ jɛ/
Skyās kluong fyak in spo yad nā psā yo gyot hō prot yad fōk mgrot yad kioh yad tā hō yok bot na spsui biā yad nā psā yo yo nā spsui mgrang yad.
or
/m n ɳ ɲ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n nr ny ng ngu->
/mb nd ɲɟ ŋg ŋgʷ/ <nb nd njh mg mgu->
/b d ɟ g gʷ/ <bb dd jjh gg ggu->
/p t c k kʷ q qʷ ʔ/ <b d jh g gu- gh ghu->
/pʰ tʰ cʰ kʰ kʷʰ qʰ qʷʰ/ <p t qh k ku- kh khu->
/mbʐ mbʑ ndz ɳdʐ ɲdʑ/ <nbr nby nz nzh nj>
/bʐ bʑ dz dʐ dʑ/ <bbr bby zz zzh jj>
/pʂ pɕ ts tʂ tɕ/ <br by z zh j>
/pʂʰ pɕʰ tsʰ tʂʰ tɕʰ/ <pr py c ch q>
/z ʐ ʑ/ <ss rr xx>
/ʍ s ʂ ɕ ɬ ç h/ <f s sh x hl hy h>
/ɻ l/ <r l>
/ɻ̥/ <hr>
/w j/ <w y>
/i y ɯ u/ <i v ee u>
/e ø ɤ o/ <ei oi e o>
/ɛ a ɑ/ <ai a ao>
/ie yø ɯɤ uo/ <ea ve oa ou>
/eˤ.../ <iv...>
/h ʔ ɴ ɻ w j/ <h k ng r o~u i>
/cʰah qʷoɴ ɕɑʔ ʔiɴ pʰo jɛ na tsa jo ɟøʔ huo pʂøʔ jɛ ʍuoʔ ɳdʐøʔ jɛ kjoh kɑ jɛ ta huo joʔ bøʔ na tsʰyj bja jɛ na tsa jo jo na tsʰyj ɳdʐɑɴ jɛ/
Qhah ghuong xaok ing po yai na za yo jjhoik hou broik yai foak nzhoik yai gioh ga yai da hou yok bboik na cvi bbia yai na za yo yo na cvi nzhang yai.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:50 pm
by Travis B.
/m n ɳ ɲ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n nr ny ng ngw>
/mb nd ɲɟ ŋg ŋgʷ/ <mb md mj mg mgw>
/b d ɟ g gʷ/ <b d j g gw>
/p t c k kʷ q qʷ ʔ/ <p t c k kw q qw 0>
/pʰ tʰ cʰ kʰ kʷʰ qʰ qʷʰ/ <ph th ch kh kwh qh qwh>
/mbʐ mbʑ ndz ɳdʐ ɲdʑ/ <mbr mby mdz mdr mdy>
/bʐ bʑ dz dʐ dʑ/ <br by dz dr dy>
/pʂ pɕ ts tʂ tɕ/ <pr py ts tr ty>
/pʂʰ pɕʰ tsʰ tʂʰ tɕʰ/ <prh pyh tsh trh tyh>
/z ʐ ʑ/ <z zr zy>
/ʍ s ʂ ɕ ɬ ç h/ <hw s sr sy hl hy h>
/ɻ l/ <r l>
/ɻ̥/ <hr>
/w j/ <w y>
/i y ɯ u/ <i u i u>
/e ø ɤ o/ <e o e o>
/ɛ/ <a>
/a ɑ/ <a a>
/ie yø ɯɤ uo/ <ie uo ie uo>
/eˤ øˤ ɤˤ oˤ/ <ig ug ig ug>
/ɛˤ œˤ ʌˤ ɔˤ/ <eg og eg og>
/æˤ/ <ag>
/ɑˤ/ <ag>
/iɛˤ yœˤ ɯʌˤ uɔˤ/ <ieg uog ieg uog>
After /a/:
/-h -ʔ -ɴ/ <-h -p -m>
After front vowels other than /a/:
/-h -ʔ -ɴ -ɻ -j/ <-s -t -n -r -y>
After back vowels:
/-h -ʔ -ɴ -w/ <-h -k -ng -w>
/ɛ ø y yø æˤ œˤ øˤ yœˤ/ not followed by a consonant are followed by <-i>; note that <g> follows this <-i>.
/ɑ ɤ ɯ ɯɤ ʌˤ ɤˤ ɯʌˤ/ not followed by a consonant are followed by <-u>; note that <g> follows this <-u>.
/j/ after a consonant is <-i->.
/cʰah qʷoɴ ɕɑʔ ʔiɴ pʰo jɛ na tsa jo ɟøʔ huo pʂøʔ jɛ ʍuoʔ ɳdʐøʔ jɛ kjoh kɑ jɛ ta huo joʔ bøʔ na tsʰyj bja jɛ na tsa jo jo na tsʰyj ɳdʐɑɴ jɛ/
<chah qwong syak in pho yai na tsa yo jot huo prot yai hwuok mdrot yai kioh kau yai ta huo yok bot na tshuy bia yai na tsa yo yo na tshuy mdrang yai>
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:20 pm
by Nortaneous
/p b d̪ t dz k g q ɢ ʔ/
/ɬ s ʃ x χ/
/m n ŋ/
/ʇ ᵑʇ ᶢʇ ǁ ᵑǁ ᶢǁ ǂ ᵑǂ ᶢǂ/
/æ a (ɒ) e ʌ o i/ + /ə/
+ geminates
or:
/p t k q ʔ/
/ɬ s ʃ x χ/
/w ð z j ʁ/
/m n ŋ/
/ʇ ᵑʇ ᶢʇ ǁ ᵑǁ ᶢǁ ǂ ᵑǂ ᶢǂ/
/a (ɒ) e ʌ o i aː ɒː eː ʌː oː iː uː/ (stressed) + /a ə i u m̩ n̩ ŋ̩/ (unstressed)
[m̩taːðɐʁs zd̪oːs sʊβstæɾɪj panˀn̩ ɬə ᶢʇaːm || wo nə ʔuːɾm̩ʔət sʌwʃɪj ᵑǂɒqχ ʃəŋeʃtəχ ʔʌ ᶢǂit xʊw zʁɪd̪ək mæŋ]
/əmtaːd̪əʁs dzdobs səbstætəg panʔən ɬə ᶢʇaːm || o nə ʔibtəmʔət sʌbʃəg ᵑǂɒq ʃəŋeʃtəχ ʔʌ ᶢǂit xəb sʁid̪d̪ək mæŋ/
/m̩bˈtaðaʁs zðoːs suˈstæti ˈpantn̩ ɬə ᶢʇam || wo nə ˈʔuːtm̩pət ˈsʌwʃi ᵑǂɒq ʃəˈŋeʃtəχ ʔʌ ᶢǂit xu ˈsʁiððək mæŋ/
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:26 pm
by Nortaneous
/p b d̪ t dz k g q ɢ ʔ/ <p b d t z k g q r h>
/ɬ s ʃ x χ/ <l s sh kh gh>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ng>
/ʇ ᵑʇ ᶢʇ ǁ ᵑǁ ᶢǁ ǂ ᵑǂ ᶢǂ/ <ch nc c xh nx x çh nç ç>
/æ a (ɒ) e ʌ o i/ + /ə/ <a ā (å) ē u o i> + <y> (but -əb# -əg# <ub ig>)
[m̩taːðɐʁs zd̪oːs sʊβstæɾɪj panˀn̩ ɬə ᶢʇaːm || wo nə ʔuːɾm̩ʔət sʌwʃɪj ᵑǂɒqχ ʃəŋeʃtəχ ʔʌ ᶢǂit xʊw zʁɪd̪ək mæŋ]
/əmtaːd̪əʁs dzdobs səbstætəg panʔən ɬə ᶢʇaːm || o nə ʔibtəmʔət sʌbʃəg ᵑǂɒq ʃəŋeʃtəχ ʔʌ ᶢǂit xəb sʁid̪d̪ək mæŋ/
Emtádars zdobs sebstatig panhen le cām. O ne hibtemhet subshig nçåq shengēshtagh hu çit khub sriddek mang.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:43 pm
by Knit Tie
p t̪ t t͡ɕ ʈ k
m~b n̪~d̪ n~d ɲ~d͡ʑ ɳ~ɖ ŋ~g
f s ʂ h, non-glottal fricatives voice intervocalically and adjacent to voiced consonants
ɾ ɽ l ɭ
w j
a e: ɛ i: o: ɔ u: ɨ~ə~ɐ + ɛ̃ ɔ̃ ĩ: ũ: ɐ̃ nasality, nasals are allophones of voiced plosives before nasal vowels
/ɲɔ̃ psaɖʐɨmja hjɨzĩ, ɛ̃ jɨlɨvĩ/
A revision of the other branch of the langs I'm currently working on. This one had no devoicing shenanigans and even merged the nasals and the voiced consonants together.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:00 pm
by bradrn
/p t̪ t t͡ɕ ʈ k/ ⟨p th t c rt k⟩
/m~b n̪~d̪ n~d ɲ~d͡ʑ ɳ~ɖ ŋ~g/ ⟨m~b nh~dh n~d ñ~j rn~rd ng~g⟩
/f s ʂ h/ ⟨f s x h⟩
/ɾ ɽ l ɭ/ ⟨r rr l rl⟩
/w j/ ⟨w y⟩
/a e: ɛ i: o: ɔ u: ɨ~ə~ɐ + ɛ̃ ɔ̃ ĩ: ũ: ɐ̃/ ⟨a ee e ii oo o u i + ẽ õ ĩ ũ ã⟩
/ɲɔ̃ psaɖʐɨmja hjɨzĩ, ɛ̃ jɨlɨvĩ/
⟨ñõ psardximya hyisĩ, ẽ yilifĩ⟩
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:39 am
by bradrn
Consonants:
/m mʲ n nʲ nʷ ŋ ŋʷ/
/p pʲ t tʲ tʷ k kʷ q qʷ ʔ ʔʷ ʔʲ/
/pʰ pʲʰ tʰ tʲʰ tʷʰ kʰ kʷʰ qʰ qʷʰ/
/tʼ tʲʼ tʷʼ kʼ kʷʼ qʼ qʷʼ/
/b bʲ d dʲ dʷ ɡ ɡʷ ɢ ɢʷ/
/ɓ ɓʲ~ᵑʘ/
/f fʲ s sʲ sʷ x xʷ χ χʷ h ʍ j̊/
/v vʲ z zʲ zʷ ɣ ɣʷ ʁ ʁʷ/
/l lʲ ɫ j w/
Vowels:
/i y u e ø ə o ɛ œ ɔ a/
Sample text:
/pʲʰaɫœs χʷœʔʲɛn gʷaᵑʘə ʁʷy j̊əwatʲʼ ɔmoŋ qʼətʷʼafʲ ʔʲə ɣalʲa/
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:43 am
by Karch
/p b d̪ t dz k g q ɢ ʔ/ <p b th t z k g kh gh '>
/ɬ s ʃ x χ/ <l s sh x xh>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ng>
/ʇ ᵑʇ ᶢʇ ǁ ᵑǁ ᶢǁ ǂ ᵑǂ ᶢǂ/ <d nd gd q nq gq c nc gc>
/æ a (ɒ) e ʌ o i/ + /ə/ <â a ô ê o u i> <e>
/əmtaːd̪əʁs dzdobs səbstætəg panʔən ɬə ᶢʇaːm || o nə ʔibtəmʔət sʌbʃəg ᵑǂɒq ʃəŋeʃtəχ ʔʌ ᶢǂit xəb sʁid̪d̪ək mæŋ/
Emtaatheghs zthubs sebstâteg pan'en le gdaam. U ne 'ibtem'et sobsheg ncôkh shengêshtexh 'o gcit xeb sghitthek mâng.
or:
/p t k q ʔ/ <p t k kh '>
/ɬ s ʃ x χ/ <l s sh x xh>
/w ð z j ʁ/ <w th z y gh>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ng>
/ʇ ᵑʇ ᶢʇ ǁ ᵑǁ ᶢǁ ǂ ᵑǂ ᶢǂ/ <d nd gd q nq gq c nc gc>
/a (ɒ) e ʌ o i aː ɒː eː ʌː oː iː uː/ + /a ə i u m̩ n̩ ŋ̩/ <á â é o ú í aa ââ ee oo uu ii ûû> <a e i u m n ng>
/m̩bˈtaðaʁs zðoːs suˈstæti ˈpantn̩ ɬə ᶢʇam || wo nə ˈʔuːtm̩pət ˈsʌwʃi ᵑǂɒq ʃəˈŋeʃtəχ ʔʌ ᶢǂit xu ˈsʁiððək mæŋ/
Mbtáthaghs zthuus sustáti pántn le gdam. Wu ne 'ûûtmpet sowshi ncâq shengéshtexh 'o gcit xu sghítthek mang.
or:
/χ ð ʁ ʇ ᵑʇ ᶢʇ/ <rh d r v nv gv>
Mbtádars zduus sustáti pántn le gvam. Wu ne 'ûûtmpet sowshi ncâq shengéshterh 'o gcit xu sríddek mang.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:41 am
by Karch
p t̪ t t͡ɕ ʈ k <p th t c ṭ k>
m~b n̪~d̪ n~d ɲ~d͡ʑ ɳ~ɖ ŋ~g <m~b nh~dh n~d ny~j ṇ~ḍ g>
f s ʂ h, <v z s h>
ɾ ɽ l ɭ <r ṛ l ḷ>
w j <w y>
a e: ɛ i: o: ɔ u: ɨ~ə~ɐ + ɛ̃ ɔ̃ ĩ: ũ: ɐ̃ <a ee e ii oo o uu æ> <ê ô îî ûû â>
nasality, nasals are allophones of voiced plosives before nasal vowels
/ɲɔ̃ psaɖʐɨmja hjɨzĩ, ɛ̃ jɨlɨvĩ/
Nyô pzaḍsæbya hyæzîî, ê yælævîî.
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/p t tɬ ts ʈ tʂ tɕ k q ʔ/ <p t L S T C c k q P>
/p’ t’ tɬ’ ts’ ʈ’ tʂ’ tɕ’ k’ q’/ <p' t' L' S' T' C' c' k' q'>
/tʰ tɬʰ tsʰ ʈʰ tʂʰ tɕʰ kʰ qʰ/ <th Lh Sh Th Ch ch kh qh>
/b d dɮ dz ɖ dʐ dʑ/ <b d R Z D J j>
/ɓ ɗ/ <b' d'>
/f ɬ s ʂ ɕ x χ/ <f F s X x K Q>
/v ð l r j ɣ ʁ/ <v z l r y G H>
/m n ɳ ɲ ŋ/ <m n N Y V>
/i y ɨ˞ ẽ ɚ ɤ o õ ɛ œ ɛ̃ œ̃ ɜ̃ ɔ̃ a a˞ ã/ <i uy ir en er ew o on e oy en oyn ayn awn a ar an>
/11 23 14 54 342 512/ <a ah a' A Ah A'>
(C)(C)(C)(C)(C)CV maximal syllable structure
/pðã14 ŋsrœ̃342 di23ɗɤ11 mrtʂ’k’ɛ512 ɕvõ11 dza11 tʰa11ʂɖɚ11 ti512 ʂqʰœ̃14 ŋɛ11 ɣu54 ɳɖra14lɨ˞512 dɮɛ11 ʔny11 sχɳdʐo512/
pzan' VsrOynh dihd'ew mrC'k'E' xvon Za thaXDer tI' Xqhoyn' Ve GU' NDra'lIr' Re Pnuy sQNJO'.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:57 am
by bradrn
I know reposts are discouraged (or at least I’m under the impression that they are), but it’s been almost a week and I haven’t got any responses to my challenge yet:
bradrn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:39 am
Consonants:
/m mʲ n nʲ nʷ ŋ ŋʷ/
/p pʲ t tʲ tʷ k kʷ q qʷ ʔ ʔʷ ʔʲ/
/pʰ pʲʰ tʰ tʲʰ tʷʰ kʰ kʷʰ qʰ qʷʰ/
/tʼ tʲʼ tʷʼ kʼ kʷʼ qʼ qʷʼ/
/b bʲ d dʲ dʷ ɡ ɡʷ ɢ ɢʷ/
/ɓ ɓʲ~ᵑʘ/
/f fʲ s sʲ sʷ x xʷ χ χʷ h ʍ j̊/
/v vʲ z zʲ zʷ ɣ ɣʷ ʁ ʁʷ/
/l lʲ ɫ j w/
Vowels:
/i y u e ø ə o ɛ œ ɔ a/
Sample text:
/pʲʰaɫœs χʷœʔʲɛn gʷaᵑʘə ʁʷy j̊əwatʲʼ ɔmoŋ qʼətʷʼafʲ ʔʲə ɣalʲa/