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no, a priori languages are logical peaks...

xxx wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:31 am no, a priori languages are logical peaks...

do you mean that just by being a priori...
a language becomes the most logical thing...
i can tell you that my a priori languages...
are definitely not logical...
and please don't tell me that they're not a priori because they don't consist only of semantic primes in the way that your alleged conlang does...

Darren wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:45 amand please don't tell me that they're not a priori because they don't consist only of semantic primes in the way that your alleged conlang does...

I don't think it's wise
to feed the trolls.


JAL

oops sorry for my classical vocabulary:

no, philosophical languages are logical peaks...

fixed...

Mine is a priori, except for the word cici/chichi ('cat'), taken from the Czech...

When auxlangers speak of a priori languages, they often mean taxonomic ("philosophical") languages - but we artlangers know that those are by far not the only a priori languages.

um, taxonomic, auxlanger...
no, just use the words according to their classical definition...
it's typically logic vocabulary, for the most logical of languages...

xxx wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2024 3:12 pm um, taxonomic, auxlanger...
no, just use the words according to their classical definition...
it's typically logic vocabulary, for the most logical of languages...

Well, what are people supposed to call, a conlang that is not meant to be philosophical or an auxlang, but that is not derived from existing languages, either?

Raphael wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2024 4:37 am

xxx wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2024 3:12 pm um, taxonomic, auxlanger...
no, just use the words according to their classical definition...
it's typically logic vocabulary, for the most logical of languages...

Well, what are people supposed to call, a conlang that is not meant to be philosophical or an auxlang, but that is not derived from existing languages, either?

Indeed, this is a gap in the auxlangers' classification. The auxlangers were never particularly interested in artlangs, and non-taxonomic a priori auxlang proposals are apparently vanishingly rare. But there are of course very many a priori artlangs, such as Klingon or Tolkien's languages.

We have been discussing this several times on the CONLANG list, at least once sparked by someone misusing the term a priori in the sense of 'a posteriori', and there it has been suggested abolishing these Latin terms altogether and instead using such clearer words as original and derived. Alas, the usage is firmly entrenched by now and not easily abolished.

Well, what are people supposed to call, a conlang that is not meant to be philosophical or an auxlang, but that is not derived from existing languages, either?

that's quite a challenge for a community of word inventors...
I once suggested the Latin translation of “from scratch”: “ex nihilo”...
(although it's more appropriately ex linguisticis...)

WeepingElf wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2024 7:14 amsuch clearer words as original and derived.

Not sure that's very clear. Something derived can be very original!


JAL

jal wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2024 10:42 am

WeepingElf wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2024 7:14 amsuch clearer words as original and derived.

Not sure that's very clear. Something derived can be very original!

True! It wasn't my suggestion, anyway.

From the canvas?

Oh, and SC is 300 words now.

AwfullyAmateur wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2024 12:43 pm Oh, and SC is 300 words now.

Congratulations!

Amarin now has a word meaning to speak with onomatopoeia. You would use it when a major part of the sentence or all of the sentence uses onomatopoeic words. You would also use it with animal onomatopoeia.

That's a cool idea.

Also, reworked Sodemeresh will be getting a new replacement number system soon.

AwfullyAmateur wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:02 pm Also, reworked Sodemeresh will be getting a new replacement number system soon.

Sorry, but Janko does not accept updates to number systems.

Still gets me closer to 100,000, anyway.