Re: What do you call ...
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 1:39 am
Most likely or i think its possibly an alternate spelling of it.
Most likely or i think its possibly an alternate spelling of it.
I don't know any native speakers of standard Dutch that use different words, is just "oma" and "opa", often combined with either a surname or some other descriptive word to distinguish the two sets of grandparents. Otoh, there is a lot of variation for great-grandparents, likely because it's pretty recent in history that kids even have them.
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Before I moved to Germany, I always called it pot, but people in Germany find that weird, so I started calling it weed and now I'm back in Australia and still saying weed and it kind of annoys me because my subjective feeling here is that weed is trying to sound too cool, whereas pot is just the normal word ... although the linguistic situation probably shifted a lot while I was away.
Weed is actually the first thing that comes to mind i meant to ask for names other then weed but my brain didn't add the extra information because i was kinda high.Imralu wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:02 pmBefore I moved to Germany, I always called it pot, but people in Germany find that weird, so I started calling it weed and now I'm back in Australia and still saying weed and it kind of annoys me because my subjective feeling here is that weed is trying to sound too cool, whereas pot is just the normal word ... although the linguistic situation probably shifted a lot while I was away.
Similar with my daughter - her German grandma was Oma, her Kazakh Grandma was Apashka, which is actually a Kazakh word for "mama", plus a Russian diminutive suffix; the entire famile called her that. (The regular Kazakh word for grandmother is äzhe.) She also called her great-grandmother Oma (not Uroma), and when she needed to differentiate talking about them when she was little, she called great-grandma Oma Hund "grandma dog" (because she had a dachshound) and her grandma Oma Katze "grandma cat", because she had a cat back then.WeepingElf wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:24 am My niece's family makes use of the fact that she is married to a native speaker of Tamil, and thus the (German) maternal grandparents are Oma and Opa, and the (Tamil) paternal grandparents are Tata and Nana (if I remember those words correctly).
My niece used to just add the first names to Oma and Opa to disambiguate; so the paternal grandparents (my parents) were Oma Anne and Opa Bernhard, and the maternal grandparents were Oma Gitta and Opa Werner.hwhatting wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:10 amSimilar with my daughter - her German grandma was Oma, her Kazakh Grandma was Apashka, which is actually a Kazakh word for "mama", plus a Russian diminutive suffix; the entire famile called her that. (The regular Kazakh word for grandmother is äzhe.) She also called her great-grandmother Oma (not Uroma), and when she needed to differentiate talking about them when she was little, she called great-grandma Oma Hund "grandma dog" (because she had a dachshound) and her grandma Oma Katze "grandma cat", because she had a cat back then.WeepingElf wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:24 am My niece's family makes use of the fact that she is married to a native speaker of Tamil, and thus the (German) maternal grandparents are Oma and Opa, and the (Tamil) paternal grandparents are Tata and Nana (if I remember those words correctly).
For me, my grandparents were Oma and Opa on both sides; if I needed to differentiate, I just added their first names.
My sister's kids used to call their paternal grandmother "Puppy Grandma" and their maternal grandma "Basket Grandma" because of gifts they brought them when they were little. For my father, they invented the nickname "Ganu", which supposedly arose from the eldest's mispronunciation of "Grampa". His wife's grandkids called him "Papa" so he was also known as "Papa Ganu", as if Ganu were a proper name.hwhatting wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:10 amShe also called her great-grandmother Oma (not Uroma), and when she needed to differentiate talking about them when she was little, she called great-grandma Oma Hund "grandma dog" (because she had a dachshound) and her grandma Oma Katze "grandma cat", because she had a cat back then.
My dad specifically calls a specific great-grandparent of his "Oma" even though he himself otherwise does not speak German. (It should be noted that said great-grandparent was actually a first-generation immigrant from Germany.)Linguoboy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:47 am In the USA there are enough families with mixed immigrant backgrounds that situations like the one Hans-Werner describes are rather commonplace. For instance, one of my friends called her French-Canadian grandparents "Mémé and Pépé" and her Italian granparents "Nonno and Nonna". Oddly, one of my aunts, despite speaking more French than German, decided she didn't like the sound of "Grandma" and so asked her grandchildren to call her "Oma".
That's interesting, my gransparents (from both sides) would've very much disapproved the use of their first names, it was not done (I also sietzte them, as was common in those days), so we distinguished them by their surnames. My kids however do refer to my parents and my inlaws using their first names, and dutzen them. When speaking directly to them they only use "oma" and "opa" though.
That is the complete opposite to how things are here, that one does not refer to one's parents or grandparents by their given names or their last names - one always refers to them as "mom" or "dad" or "mama" or "papa", for one's parents, and "grandma", "grandpa", "nana", "papa", and so on, for one's grandparents, unless one has to disambiguate which grandparent one is speaking of, where at least in my dad's generation they would sometimes put the grandparent's last name after "grandma" or "grandpa" (I know that my dad refers to one of his grandmothers as "nana" and the other as "grandma Bucher"). Furthermore, when speaking to people in one's family one refers to parents and grandparents relative to their position in the family; e.g. I call my mother "(your) grandma" when speaking to my daughter. As for aunts, uncles, great-aunts, and great-uncles, they are similar except that "aunt", "uncle", "great-aunt", or "great-uncle", from the point of view of who one is speaking to is very often not used by itself but precedes said individual's first name.jal wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:12 amThat's interesting, my gransparents (from both sides) would've very much disapproved the use of their first names, it was not done (I also sietzte them, as was common in those days), so we distinguished them by their surnames. My kids however do refer to my parents and my inlaws using their first names, and dutzen them. When speaking directly to them they only use "oma" and "opa" though.
In my generation, we used surnames to distinguish grandparents when necessary. In my sister's kids generation, they use given names.Travis B. wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 12:03 pmThat is the complete opposite to how things are here, that one does not refer to one's parents or grandparents by their given names or their last names - one always refers to them as "mom" or "dad" or "mama" or "papa", for one's parents, and "grandma", "grandpa", "nana", "papa", and so on, for one's grandparents, unless one has to disambiguate which grandparent one is speaking of, where at least in my dad's generation they would sometimes put the grandparent's last name after "grandma" or "grandpa" (I know that my dad refers to one of his grandmothers as "nana" and the other as "grandma Bucher"). Furthermore, when speaking to people in one's family one refers to parents and grandparents relative to their position in the family; e.g. I call my mother "(your) grandma" when speaking to my daughter. As for aunts, uncles, great-aunts, and great-uncles, they are similar except that "aunt", "uncle", "great-aunt", or "great-uncle", from the point of view of who one is speaking to is very often not used by itself but precedes said individual's first name.
My daughter always calls my mother and father "grandma" and "grandma", and never by their first names, god forbid their last names. She similarly calls her grandparents on the other side "nana" and "papa".Linguoboy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:51 am In my generation, we used surnames to distinguish grandparents when necessary. In my sister's kids generation, they use given names.
I've only recently gotten used to dropping kinship terms when speaking to relatives in my mom's generation, e.g. calling her sister simply "Barb" instead of "Aunt Barb". I think that reflects how conservative that branch of the family is in general.
I remember hearing people doing that when I was growing up, but I don't remember if I've done it myself.WeepingElf wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:28 am In the village where I grew up, my parents, at least when talking to us children, used terms like Onkel Herbert or Tante Anni for neighbours, even though they weren't related.
In American English, we even have the term "Dutch uncle" for someone you treat like an uncle (and perhaps even refer to with the title "uncle") but isn't actually related.WeepingElf wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:28 am In the village where I grew up, my parents, at least when talking to us children, used terms like Onkel Herbert or Tante Anni for neighbours, even though they weren't related.