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Back when I did some very limited conlanging (naming languages only), it was for a conworld project that would have been about a planet unrelated to Earth, so a posteriori wouldn't have made sense. Besides, not having to worry about plausible derivations of linguistic developments made things easier.Glass Half Baked wrote: ↑Tue Jul 22, 2025 9:30 am Most of my conlangs are a posteriori, in part because I like history and historical linguistics, and in part because I think fitting a language into an existing context is a fun challenge. Out of curiosity, what ratio of a priori to a posteriori languages do you all gravitate toward?
I have always gravitated toward a priori since my conlang ideas simply don't fit existing languages all that well.Glass Half Baked wrote: ↑Tue Jul 22, 2025 9:30 amMost of my conlangs are a posteriori, in part because I like history and historical linguistics, and in part because I think fitting a language into an existing context is a fun challenge. Out of curiosity, what ratio of a priori to a posteriori languages do you all gravitate toward?
Most of my conlangs are a posteriori, too, as I explore lost linguistic lineages of our world in them. Also, I find it easier to work from an existing language than making up a new language entirely. However, for a fantasy world or an alien race, I'd do a priori languages, as their languages ought not to be related to languages of our planet. Also, you can of course do a priori diachronic conlanging, by using an a priori conlang as the protolanguage of a family.Glass Half Baked wrote: ↑Tue Jul 22, 2025 9:30 am Most of my conlangs are a posteriori, in part because I like history and historical linguistics, and in part because I think fitting a language into an existing context is a fun challenge. Out of curiosity, what ratio of a priori to a posteriori languages do you all gravitate toward?
maybe I'm failing to understand here...if you want to break an association & end having the endings having the same vocality...perhaps expand/enlarge the vowel system or the gender system?Ahzoh wrote: ↑Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:58 pm (Just had this post get eaten by an error and the form not being able to be resubmitted due to it, so now I have to retype it from scratch and remember what I wrote)
I have reduced the gender system of Vrkhazhian because I wanted to break the association of specific vowels with specific genders (e.g. u = fem, i = masc, a = neut), which I found to be limiting when it came to creating affixes.
Still, I feel uneasy about having most of the endings having the same vocality.
Perhaps the language underwent a sound change that eliminated this sequence. Many languages avoid high and especially front vowels around guttural consonants in various ways. The language might lower the vowel yielding /ex/ or front the consonant yielding /iS/ or something along those lines. That would introduce some interesting variation and surface irregularity to the inflectional system as well.
My conlang only has four vowels, especially because I hate /o/ and o-like vowelskeenir wrote: ↑Sat Jul 26, 2025 3:15 pmmaybe I'm failing to understand here...if you want to break an association & end having the endings having the same vocality...perhaps expand/enlarge the vowel system or the gender system?Ahzoh wrote: ↑Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:58 pm (Just had this post get eaten by an error and the form not being able to be resubmitted due to it, so now I have to retype it from scratch and remember what I wrote)
I have reduced the gender system of Vrkhazhian because I wanted to break the association of specific vowels with specific genders (e.g. u = fem, i = masc, a = neut), which I found to be limiting when it came to creating affixes.
Still, I feel uneasy about having most of the endings having the same vocality.
Well it could be like Hittite, where every stem essentially became a-stems. Hurro-Urartian is similar where every root has a thematic i-vowelmalloc wrote: ↑Sat Jul 26, 2025 3:17 pmPerhaps the language underwent a sound change that eliminated this sequence. Many languages avoid high and especially front vowels around guttural consonants in various ways. The language might lower the vowel yielding /ex/ or front the consonant yielding /iS/ or something along those lines. That would introduce some interesting variation and surface irregularity to the inflectional system as well.
Except for Sajiwan (which is a Caribbean English Creole, and as such bound by the general rules of CECs), all my conlangs are a priori, though Fake Latinic and Fake Germanic of course heavily borrow from both grammar and vocabulary of the languages they immitate. This is mostly because I find it less restrictive, and easier, to create a language a priori, and a lot of my conlangs start out as though experiments. June 2016, which I plan to revisit one day, can be said to be somewhat a posteriori, as it is part of the Balkan Sprachbund and as such has grammatical features and some vocabulary that is common for such languages.Glass Half Baked wrote: ↑Tue Jul 22, 2025 9:30 amOut of curiosity, what ratio of a priori to a posteriori languages do you all gravitate toward?
I suggest reading Coward & Grimes’s Making Dictionaries — it’s written with reference to the MDF software in particular, but has a lot of broadly relevant advice too.
Thanks, will do!bradrn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 04, 2025 5:07 am
I suggest reading Coward & Grimes’s Making Dictionaries — it’s written with reference to the MDF software in particular, but has a lot of broadly relevant advice too.
More generally, I strongly recommend reading zompist’s Lexipedia.
here, a priori conlang in the strong sense, using semantic primes and no linguistics...Glass Half Baked wrote: ↑Tue Jul 22, 2025 9:30 am Most of my conlangs are a posteriori, in part because I like history and historical linguistics, and in part because I think fitting a language into an existing context is a fun challenge. Out of curiosity, what ratio of a priori to a posteriori languages do you all gravitate toward?
Prakrit in tis development from Old Indic dropped single unaspirated dental and velar plosives between vowels, so the results need not be too dire. Two things preserved other plosives between vowels:
Something that is improbable, is not impossible; if anything, it makes it further unique. To my eye, having plosives only on the initial and closing syllables of a word, would be a good way - a fine shortcut - to telling where a word begins and ends, even if the script lacks spaces between words. Just a thought.